Klopp wanting a replay

All the other var decisions this seasons against a lot of other teams which have resulted in losses. What should they do replay all the games that have had wrong var decisions made against them.
Klopp needs to move on and stop crying about things.
Was moaning recently about playing too many games in a short space of time yet wanting this one replayed haha
 
Seem to recall a Nottingham Forest game when an injustice led to one team letting the other walk the ball into the net. Surely that could have happened at the start of the second half on Saturday.

A replay though isn’t going to happen. Maybe some investigation into Simon Hooper on the sendings off and bookings is required as this is not his first anti Liverpool action.
 
Klopp: 'Some people probably don't want me to say, but not as the manager of Liverpool so much, more as a football person, the only outcome should be a replay. That's how it is. It probably will not happen'

SkySports News: 'Jurgen Klopp demands replay!'
 
Wilburrabbit said:
Seem to recall a Nottingham Forest game when an injustice led to one team letting the other walk the ball into the net. Surely that could have happened at the start of the second half on Saturday.

A replay though isn’t going to happen. Maybe some investigation into Simon Hooper on the sendings off and bookings is required as this is not his first anti Liverpool action.
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You're talking about Spurs.
No chance of them giving that away.
Personally I'm more concerned that all the bad publicity' about the non decision is taking over the game.
Any more like that and all Hell will break loose.
Not good for the Premier Leagues bosses.
 
Yeah, I completely agree Jurgen.

Meanwhile let’s go and dig up Diego so that we can replay that 1986 World Cup quarter final.

🙄

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Spurs-Liverpool replay would be right thing - Klopp​

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp says a replay of the match against Tottenham "would be the right thing" after Luis Diaz's goal was wrongly disallowed.
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It is remarkable that this notion has never occurred to him before.

Meanwhile everyone busily overlooks the main issue. Which is that they have introduced a system that sacrifices the natural flow of the game for the "prize" of eliminating human error - but it is constantly undermined, by a different kind of human error. Genius.
 
basilrobbie3 said:
It is remarkable that this notion has never occurred to him before.

Meanwhile everyone busily overlooks the main issue. Which is that they have introduced a system that sacrifices the natural flow of the game for the "prize" of eliminating human error - but it is constantly undermined, by a different kind of human error. Genius.
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VAR was implemeted mainly because managers and players were constantly bitching and moaning about the standard of refereeing and the amount of mistakes being made. Now it's been implemented we're seeing even more bitching and moaning. But in reality we are seeing a lot less refereeing mistakes and injustices as in 95% of cases VAR gets it right.
It's just in this case VAR got it horribly wrong. Or should I say the human beings who administer it got it horribly wrong.
Human error, it happens all the time.
 
If I was Spurs and asked to play a replay I'd tell Liverpool to fook off.
Or how about asking them to start with 10 as Jones went off before the non goal.
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Terrible decision and clearly the correct process wasn’t followed on the day but come on Jurgen.

How far do we go back, Sheff Utd getting relegated by 1 point after goal line tech didn’t work, Lampard v Germany, Maradona in 1986, Captain Blackadder in No Mans Land on Christmas Day 1914?
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I think times have changed and he has a case. Or they count the goal and give them the draw.
 
20togo said:
Klopp certainly wouldn't be saying anything if his team had got that type of decision. As would apply to any other manager too.
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Absolutely. Classic deflection from the fact his team won't finish top 4.

You can just hear the Liverpool fans saying ' we was robbed we was'. Well there's an irony.

Same Liverpool fan no doubt who said after we won 2-1 that we shouldn't be in the PL as we went through the play offs. He's probably still thinking of how to answer Istanbul the year before.
 
Wait until AI is fully integrated into society there will be non of these poor human error decisions that have been happening throughout sport since Adam was a lad! Now there’s a very serious thought 🤔🤔
 
20togo said:
Klopp certainly wouldn't be saying anything if his team had got that type of decision. As would apply to any other manager too.
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You beat me to it 20’s
If the decision was made against Spurs then without any shadow of doubt he would have said it was offside
He is actually one of the biggest moaning hypocrites in football
Yes it was a bad mistake and shouldn’t have happened but people do make mistakes and this will happen time and time again.
 
Wilburrabbit said:
Seem to recall a Nottingham Forest game when an injustice led to one team letting the other walk the ball into the net. Surely that could have happened at the start of the second half on Saturday.

A replay though isn’t going to happen. Maybe some investigation into Simon Hooper on the sendings off and bookings is required as this is not his first anti Liverpool action.
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Yes the refereeing was dreadful.
Dougall was in a similar position to Jota the other day and the referee did the sensible thing and kept his 2nd yellow card in his pocket.
Otherwise it spoils the match for everyone if the ref sends players off for shirt tugging and tripping.
Bring back the good old days of the 70’s!
 
fcblackpool said:
Absolutely. Classic deflection from the fact his team won't finish top 4.

You can just hear the Liverpool fans saying ' we was robbed we was'. Well there's an irony.

Same Liverpool fan no doubt who said after we won 2-1 that we shouldn't be in the PL as we went through the play offs. He's probably still thinking of how to answer Istanbul the year before.
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Will love it (Keegan style) if Liverpool miss out on the title by one point 🙏
 
Davepick said:
You're talking about Spurs.
No chance of them giving that away.
Personally I'm more concerned that all the bad publicity' about the non decision is taking over the game.
Any more like that and all Hell will break loose.
Not good for the Premier Leagues bosses.
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If you remember, Wolves were robbed against Man U with ridiculous VAR non decisions. Why does a Liverpool game get so much attention and now consideration of a replay?
 
basilrobbie3 said:
It is remarkable that this notion has never occurred to him before.

Meanwhile everyone busily overlooks the main issue. Which is that they have introduced a system that sacrifices the natural flow of the game for the "prize" of eliminating human error - but it is constantly undermined, by a different kind of human error. Genius.
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100%. It’s got to the point where the VAR team is taking 5 minutes after every goal trying to find a reason to disallow it.
Absolutely killing the momentum of the game and the spontaneous joy of your team scoring a goal. If we every make it to the top flight I’d seriously consider not attending games, I hate VAR that much.
I’d happily accept refs getting a few wrong (they do at our level anyway) if we could scrap this nonsense.
And then managers, players and pundits need to stop banging on about refereeing decisions
 
Qblock said:
100%. It’s got to the point where the VAR team is taking 5 minutes after every goal trying to find a reason to disallow it.
Absolutely killing the momentum of the game and the spontaneous joy of your team scoring a goal. If we every make it to the top flight I’d seriously consider not attending games, I hate VAR that much.
I’d happily accept refs getting a few wrong (they do at our level anyway) if we could scrap this nonsense.
And then managers, players and pundits need to stop banging on about refereeing decisions
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Spot on, managers need just get on with it.

I watched Emma Hayes moaning about not having VAR in the womens game, she doesn’t know how lucky they are not having it😂
 
Are we still on this? This is why I can't be arsed with VAR and top flight football shit. Aye, it was a shit decision but they happen and no one is dead so get on with it and shut the fuck up cos it doesn't ACTUALLY MEAN ANYTHING.
 
td53 said:
Are we still on this? This is why I can't be arsed with VAR and top flight football shit. Aye, it was a shit decision but they happen and no one is dead so get on with it and shut the fuck up cos it doesn't ACTUALLY MEAN ANYTHING.
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Exactly it’s a bloody game, a great game yes but not the end of the world if there is a bad decision
 
no9 said:
Exactly it’s a bloody game, a great game yes but not the end of the world if there is a bad decision
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Can't hack it. It's been on the radio for literally days. Like it's a murder investigation or the incident that starts a war or something.

There's nothing more to say on it, but still they bang on about it.

VAR has created a false expectation of perfect decisions. Never going to happen. We're turning a simple game into something way too complex and this forensic media investigation into a mistake is doing my head in.
 
Read something about how some church group believed that forensically analysing the bible ever more closely would bring about the perfect reading of God's word.

Instead, it just made them question the inner logic of the bible.

The point being that faith relies on a generalised sense of God's word - not a pedantic and literal sentence by sentence, comma, by comma 'perfect reading' - and the rules of football are kind of the same. There's a certain feel or instinct involved, a kind of collective suspension of belief perhaps, and the more we go into VAR in ever greater depth and detail, the more we complexify and demystify and ultimately spoil the experience of the game.
 
We should have stayed in the Premier league with the correct decisions, I don't want us to be reinstated, but we deserve the money from what a season was worth back then.

Give us the 90 million and we'll use it to build a super team that has a great chance at getting back there.
 
td53 said:
Can't hack it. It's been on the radio for literally days. Like it's a murder investigation or the incident that starts a war or something.

There's nothing more to say on it, but still they bang on about it.

VAR has created a false expectation of perfect decisions. Never going to happen. We're turning a simple game into something way too complex and this forensic media investigation into a mistake is doing my head in.
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I used to have a saying in work: Who checks the checker?

Liverpool chairman has made mistakes. Liverpool recruitment team have made mistakes, Liverpool manager has selected the wrong team and the wrong tactics so has made mistakes, Liverpool players have made mistakes, the ref has made mistakes, the liner too.

And now VAR.

So ** what. It's not about 100% perfection it's about tending towards 100% perfection.
 
JJpool said:
We should have stayed in the Premier league with the correct decisions, I don't want us to be reinstated, but we deserve the money from what a season was worth back then.

Give us the 90 million and we'll use it to build a super team that has a great chance at getting back there.
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I want us to be reinstated. No Critchley then.
 
Does there ever come a point, then, when a decision and the outcome is so bad that there has to be remedial action? Or do the referees get away with poor work and the clubs and fans have to lump it forever?
 
Tangerinemoss said:
Does there ever come a point, then, when a decision and the outcome is so bad that there has to be remedial action? Or do the referees get away with poor work and the clubs and fans have to lump it forever?
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I think replaying a game (unless you can prove the officials have been bribed) is a very dangerous precedent to make. However, I believe that the officials need to own their decisions and receive harsher punishments. None of this bump them down to the EFL nonsense. If you're incompetent then you shouldn't be in the role and they need to be removed.
 
What a good idea, let's have replays for all mistakes made in every game, and of course they should be free to those who attended the original, as you can't expect the hard up fans to pay for a second or third or fourth game. I say that because if there is a mistake in the replay, it will have to be replayed, surely.

Dream on Klopp!
 
basilrobbie3 said:
It is remarkable that this notion has never occurred to him before.

Meanwhile everyone busily overlooks the main issue. Which is that they have introduced a system that sacrifices the natural flow of the game for the "prize" of eliminating human error - but it is constantly undermined, by a different kind of human error. Genius.
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And that, in a nutshell, is why they should ditch it and go back to the beautiful game as it was.
 
RUSTY_2_STANDS said:
VAR was implemeted mainly because managers and players were constantly bitching and moaning about the standard of refereeing and the amount of mistakes being made. Now it's been implemented we're seeing even more bitching and moaning. But in reality we are seeing a lot less refereeing mistakes and injustices as in 95% of cases VAR gets it right.
It's just in this case VAR got it horribly wrong. Or should I say the human beings who administer it got it horribly wrong.
Human error, it happens all the time.
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spot on. This was a human error with regards to thinking a goal had been allowed when it hadn't. With regards to offside decisions VAR technology has been spot on in what it is being asked to do.
 
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