Less than 2000 season tickets sold...

Hooleys said:
You shouldn’t be punished because you don’t use a smart phone or don’t want to rely on it for your season ticket. The majority of people who want a card will be potentially older people who don’t have a smartphone or vulnerable people. I think it’s a poor thought out decision personally.
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Nobody is being ‘punished’ though? There’s a moderately higher cost associated with retaining and managing a card based system.

Passing that cost on is the right thing to do because:

a) Those who can use a more efficient system should be allowed to benefit by doing so

and

b) The price differential will encourage those who can change to do so.
1966_and_all_that said:
I have saved this until now, realising the tempest of anger and dispair I am about to ferment.
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Far be it from me to ‘dis’ the board’s grammar, spelling and punctuation guru, but I presume you mean ‘despair’ ? 😘
 
2,000 is low

But to be expected with the take it or leave it sales approach

Will probably get to about 4,000 I reckon which is ok for a league 1 club with no ambition
 
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BFC_BFC_BFC said:
We hear the same negative bollocks every year. Biggest whiners in the entire Football League.
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I dont think we are at all

Far from it

Infact recent history tells us that we probably have about 2,000 fans who will continue to take any shite thrown at them and are just happy to have a club

People defended the Oystons for years, fans still went to games during a time when many were protesting or boycotting

And let's not forget the Uber fans on this site criticising the protesting fans on a fcuking daily basis

I would say after what we have been through as a fan base we have it about right, yes we are probably a bit more engaged on the politics side of football club ownership but that's ok after what we have had to deal with for the last 30 years or so

This isn't opening anything up for debate btw as I neither have the time or inclination to spend half my day going around in circles

Cheers
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I dont think we are at all

Far from it

Infact recent history tells us that we probably have about 2,000 fans who will continue to take any shite thrown at them and are just happy to have a club

People defended the Oystons for years, fans still went to games during a time when many were protesting or boycotting

And let's not forget the Uber fans on this site criticising the protesting fans on a fcuking daily basis

I would say after what we have been through as a fan base we have it about right, yes we are probably a bit more engaged on the politics side of football club ownership but that's ok after what we have had to deal with for the last 30 years or so

This isn't opening anything up for debate btw as I neither have the time or inclination to spend half my day going around in circles

Cheers
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Nah….

We’re absolutely teeming with moaning bedwetters. I can’t ever remember a time when we weren’t blethering on about something or other.

I actually think folk have just become addicted to the drama.

(I’m mowing for the rest of today, so I’ll be otherwise engaged after 9 am 😉)
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Nobody is being ‘punished’ though? There’s a moderately higher cost associated with retaining and managing a card based system.

Passing that cost on is the right thing to do because:

a) Those who can use a more efficient system should be allowed to benefit by doing so

and

b) The price differential will encourage those who can change to do so.

Far be it from me to ‘dis’ the board’s grammar, spelling and punctuation guru, but I presume you mean ‘despair’ ? 😘
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Yep, happy to be picked up for that one. Ciaran Donnelly though...I should have checked that first.
 
HighfieldSeasider said:
The Knobbers have just announced at the end of their early bird offer they have sold over 11,000 season 'cards'.
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Sold is a little bit of a stretch, quite a chunk of those are freebies. Regardless, finding 11K folk to watch the dire crap they serve up is quite impressive. Then again the other option in Preston is to gawp at a bus station.
 
NewburyOne said:
Sold is a little bit of a stretch, quite a chunk of those are freebies. Regardless, finding 11K folk to watch the dire crap they serve up is quite impressive. Then again the other option in Preston is to gawp at a bus station.
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We can joke but I'm fuming about this. Just read their release and it looks like it's the freebies that haven't renewed yet. Don't know if that means that they can renew closer to the start of the season. This really illustrates how bad this relegation is. If it hadn't happened SS could have maybe priced us similarly to PKE, but with the lost TV millions he simply can't.

That bus station is crap though.
 
The nobbers may have sold 11k, but for the four years they were last in league one, their season ticket sales ranged from 5,886 to 7,346 according to the EFL. That's also when they weren't giving them away cheaply too. So that's a much fairer comparison. We'll get around the same.
Incidentally, when we slashed our prices in the championship we sold 10,546, so 11k isn't particularly impressive tbh.
 
Blackpool Are Back! said:
I still expect we will sell 6000-6500.

There will be a huge reduction in away support though, with only 5 or 6 teams bringing more than 1500.
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So it's vitally important that the club encourage the home support to turn out. Last season the club (Mansford?) was happy racking in the away supporters money. It took some of our 12th man support away. Now the club are paying for that.
 
BFC_53 said:
The nobbers may have sold 11k, but for the four years they were last in league one, their season ticket sales ranged from 5,886 to 7,346 according to the EFL. That's also when they weren't giving them away cheaply too. So that's a much fairer comparison. We'll get around the same.
Incidentally, when we slashed our prices in the championship we sold 10,546, so 11k isn't particularly impressive tbh.
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You lot are so bitter & jealous of north end need applauding for making iS/T affordable it created revenue in other areas especially kit sales the atmosphere was great last season having a average gate of over 16,500 .
Especially when you consider our shit home form we had .
many on here predicted sales would plummet.
It’s always IF IF IF with you lot .
 
Blackpool_Gaz said:
So it's vitally important that the club encourage the home support to turn out. Last season the club (Mansford?) was happy racking in the away supporters money. It took some of our 12th man support away. Now the club are paying for that.
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The last thing a club needs is the supporters getting out of the habit of attending. It's hard to get them back.
This sort of none attendance can't be compared to the boycott years either, this is different.
We have always been a massive 12th man at home, surely Sadler can see that if we have a hope of bouncing straight back that the home support is part of the club that he needs to have on board, up there with the importance of the playing staff.
 
Livingthedream47 said:
You lot are so bitter & jealous of north end need applauding for making iS/T affordable it created revenue in other areas especially kit sales the atmosphere was great last season having a average gate of over 16,500 .
Especially when you consider our shit home form we had .
many on here predicted sales would plummet.
It’s always IF IF IF with you lot .
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Stopped reading at 'atmosphere was great'. 🤣🤣🤣
 
Tower_75 said:
This has just been made even worse by the news coming out of the manky mob at the other end of the 55.
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Why it worse? We're at a completely different stage of the early bird.

Theirs are 280 in the championship and free foe under 11's.

All this nonsense aboit their home form was so bad, ours was worse. They were up near the playoffs.

It'll be funny to see if they actually have a real poor season...
 
Livingthedream47 said:
You lot are so bitter & jealous of north end need applauding for making iS/T affordable it created revenue in other areas especially kit sales the atmosphere was great last season having a average gate of over 16,500 .
Especially when you consider our shit home form we had .
many on here predicted sales would plummet.
It’s always IF IF IF with you lot .
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Got through quite a few messages on ticket sales and attendances without a nobber chipping in, must be a record.
It was never going to last though.
 
NewburyOne said:
Sold is a little bit of a stretch, quite a chunk of those are freebies. Regardless, finding 11K folk to watch the dire crap they serve up is quite impressive. Then again the other option in Preston is to gawp at a bus station.
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Kind of proves what people said about it last season, a large chunk of that 12k was under 11's, of course it was all made up according to those idiots.

They'll still have a fair few free under 11s in the 11k and more than 650 'under 11s' didn't renew, so they're probably selling 10k.

Still it's a good amount and I have praised the low priced strategy as much needed for a club like ours.
 
JJpool said:
Why it worse? We're at a completely different stage of the early bird.

Theirs are 280 in the championship and free foe under 11's.

All this nonsense aboit their home form was so bad, ours was worse. They were up near the playoffs.

It'll be funny to see if they actually have a real poor season...
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I respect your positivity about the timing of sales, are you saying we'll get anywhere near their figure in time?
As for their pricing, that's my point in my other post, if only we'd stayed up SS could have maybe priced similarly. Relegation removed any chance of that.
I just don't see a positive here.
 
Tower_75 said:
We can joke but I'm fuming about this. Just read their release and it looks like it's the freebies that haven't renewed yet. Don't know if that means that they can renew closer to the start of the season. This really illustrates how bad this relegation is. If it hadn't happened SS could have maybe priced us similarly to PKE, but with the lost TV millions he simply can't.

That bus station is crap though.
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I hope you're not an under cover nobber concern trolling... 👀
 
JJpool said:
Why it worse? We're at a completely different stage of the early bird.

Theirs are 280 in the championship and free foe under 11's.

All this nonsense aboit their home form was so bad, ours was worse. They were up near the playoffs.

It'll be funny to see if they actually have a real poor season...
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It does show that price is an important factor. Many on here says its not, but it clearly is. We should have gone for a flat £300 and more affordable for younger people (18-21 is too high this year) and tried to fill the stadium. There is no point having empty seats, especially when there will be fewer large away followings. It's short sighted to insist on keeping prices the same. Increased gate will mean better atmosphere/support for the team, more money spent in the club shop and bar, and securing the next generation of fans for years to come
 
OhhhBarryBarry! said:
It does show that price is an important factor. Many on here says its not, but it clearly is. We should have gone for a flat £300 and more affordable for younger people (18-21 is too high this year) and tried to fill the stadium. There is no point having empty seats, especially when there will be fewer large away followings. It's short sighted to insist on keeping prices the same. Increased gate will mean better atmosphere/support for the team, more money spent in the club shop and bar, and securing the next generation of fans for years to come
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I've banged on about our prices on here for years.
 
JJpool said:
I've banged on about our prices on here for years.
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I know you have, it is very frustrating. The argument that it costs so much to run a football club, so tickets need to cost at least X amount just annoys me and is stubborn.
It's better to sell potentially thousands more tickets at a lower price, and get all of the benefits that come with that in the short and longer term.
 
OhhhBarryBarry! said:
I know you have, it is very frustrating. The argument that it costs so much to run a football club, so tickets need to cost at least X amount just annoys me and is stubborn.
It's better to sell potentially thousands more tickets at a lower price, and get all of the benefits that come with that in the short and longer term.
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It can also make a similar amount of you generate a buzz and get enough on board, creating a feelgood factor for the season. Was our pricing set by BM? All very safe and nothing really outside the box.
 
JJpool said:
Kind of proves what people said about it last season, a large chunk of that 12k was under 11's, of course it was all made up according to those idiots.

They'll still have a fair few free under 11s in the 11k and more than 650 'under 11s' didn't renew, so they're probably selling 10k.

Still it's a good amount and I have praised the low priced strategy as much needed for a club like ours.
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The club are say a number of abults were using under 11 tickets last season which has been stopped as you now have to show photo ID birth certificate when purchasing.
There are a lot less under 11 ST sold this season.
There isn’t as many under 11s as you think you idiot .
You make things up to fit your agenda .
There has been a few post saying there child had reach 11 & now having to buy tickets . We are building a fan base for the future not like rovers 7,000 tickets sold .
Who got it right ?
Where do you get your figures from just admit we are a bigger club.
£280 is for the cheapest adult in the town end only.
 
JJpool said:
These threads last season see the appearance of newer posters from nobber land... so I don't really trust new ish posters...apologies if not.
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That's alright.
I think we're basically agreeing on a lot of things anyway. I suppose we need to see where we are on the 3rd of July. It does seem that the club need to make a push though.
 
Blackpool_Gaz said:
So it's vitally important that the club encourage the home support to turn out. Last season the club (Mansford?) was happy racking in the away supporters money. It took some of our 12th man support away. Now the club are paying for that.
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I think this is spot on. Consistently giving up home advantage definitely had an impact on our home form, Husband confirmed this and results speak for themselves. We could've used to the north part of the east stand for home fans at a cheaper rate to try and re-engage with those fans lost during the boycott and Covid, and to try and entice new supporters.

Choosing to milk the away fans for every penny has got us where we are now. We'll sell more, but fewer than 2000 sold right now isn't good. We'll be lucky to see 5000 st holders.
 
BFC_53 said:
The nobbers may have sold 11k, but for the four years they were last in league one, their season ticket sales ranged from 5,886 to 7,346 according to the EFL. That's also when they weren't giving them away cheaply too. So that's a much fairer comparison. We'll get around the same.
Incidentally, when we slashed our prices in the championship we sold 10,546, so 11k isn't particularly impressive tbh.
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Yeah, the way they bang on like they are such a bigger club is laughable when you consider it.

It's a good price and clearly beneficial to growing the fanbase and getting bums on seats. But as usual with that lot they love to compare completely different circumstances. A bit like now when laughing at our 2k when theirs early bird has just finished and ours is nearly a month away.

They are ahead and have been in the championship with a completed stadium for years now.

To me it makes it even more disappointing we don't do more to grow our fanbase.
 
JJpool said:
It can also make a similar amount of you generate a buzz and get enough on board, creating a feelgood factor for the season. Was our pricing set by BM? All very safe and nothing really outside the box.
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I agree, the goodwill it would create would mean the fans are more patient when things don't go to plan, like last season.
 
Livingthedream47 said:
You lot are so bitter & jealous of north end need applauding for making iS/T affordable it created revenue in other areas especially kit sales the atmosphere was great last season having a average gate of over 16,500 .
Especially when you consider our shit home form we had .
many on here predicted sales would plummet.
It’s always IF IF IF with you lot .
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Most people have applauded the price in the past and wished BFC did similar.

Your home form was better than ours and you were up near the playoffs, so stop pretending it's some miracle after a bad season.

I'd hate.. love to see the negativity if you actually have a bad season...
 
HighfieldSeasider said:
Deserves its own thread this as that's very poor, people voting with their feet, awaiting some signings or skint until payday?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1665710799216603137
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I think the club underestimate how many fair weather supports we actually have. People won’t part ways with £350 to watch League One football - it’s the sad way of Blackpool society unfortunately.

Thus being said, the club don’t do anywhere near enough publicising to try and entice people back for another season. I’m not even going to mention the publicity..
 
Livingthedream47 said:
The club are say a number of abults were using under 11 tickets last season which has been stopped as you now have to show photo ID birth certificate when purchasing.
There are a lot less under 11 ST sold this season.
There isn’t as many under 11s as you think you idiot .
You make things up to fit your agenda .
There has been a few post saying there child had reach 11 & now having to buy tickets . We are building a fan base for the future not like rovers 7,000 tickets sold .
Who got it right ?
Where do you get your figures from just admit we are a bigger club.
£280 is for the cheapest adult in the town end only.
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What aren't you getting? Over 650 free kids tickets haven't renewed, so we know there was more than that. You will still have a fair few kids under 11 attending this season, or have under 11's suddenly abandoned the club....idiot.

Not making anything up, only pointing out a fact, that a decent chunk of last seasons figure was inflated by the free kids. To what exact amount we don't know, at least 650 but in reality more as some/many will have renewed.

Yeah if a child reaches 11 they have to pay, no shit, you'll have new and existing under 11's attending too. Not knocking the scheme just stating a fact.

What figures? I've said before you are ahead, but let's face it you've only got the numbers you have because of price and freebies. Take that away like the seasons before and it's far less impressive numbers. All facts you can look at.

I'm not knocking the number, but as usual you don't seem to want to point out the obvious reasons why there's that many.

Are you bigger than us right now. Yes. By a relatively small amount, as proven when all things were more equal and we've been a basket case of a club for decades until recently.

A big club would sell far more than you've sold and neither of us are anywhere near that.

You lot seem unable to accept that the only real way you've pushed ahead recently is by a massively different price.

Answer this, if you have an actual poor season and put prices to 370 with no free under 11's. How many would you sell then?
 
OhhhBarryBarry! said:
It does show that price is an important factor. Many on here says its not, but it clearly is. We should have gone for a flat £300 and more affordable for younger people (18-21 is too high this year) and tried to fill the stadium. There is no point having empty seats, especially when there will be fewer large away followings. It's short sighted to insist on keeping prices the same. Increased gate will mean better atmosphere/support for the team, more money spent in the club shop and bar, and securing the next generation of fans for years to come
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£290 sounds better. 😀
With no stealth charge for a card. 😏
Oh, and an easy payment plan with a minimum % added on.

Preston seem to have got their pricing strategy spot on, whereas we seem to be repeating the same old mistakes.
If you go for a “take it or leave it” approach, don’t be surprised if people leave it. Especially after the clusterfcuk of last season.
 
tangerine_neil said:
£290 sounds better. 😀
With no stealth charge for a card. 😏
Oh, and an easy payment plan with a minimum % added on.

Preston seem to have got their pricing strategy spot on, whereas we seem to be repeating the same old mistakes.
If you go for a “take it or leave it” approach, don’t be surprised if people leave it. Especially after the clusterfcuk of last season.
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Surely it comes down to supply and demand. The only time we've sold out on a regular basis is the Prem season. Our supply is much more than the demand, therefore prices must be too high? Obviously costs go up with more fans in such as policing and stewarding etc. and the affect lower prices has on away ticket prices too, so a balance needs to be made. You'd think there would be a way of getting the stadium closer to being full that still makes financial sense.
 
OhhhBarryBarry! said:
Surely it comes down to supply and demand. The only time we've sold out on a regular basis is the Prem season. Our supply is much more than the demand, therefore prices must be too high? Obviously costs go up with more fans in such as policing and stewarding etc. and the affect lower prices has on away ticket prices too, so a balance needs to be made. You'd think there would be a way of getting the stadium closer to being full that still makes financial sense.
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It is a balancing act but we don’t seem to be doing enough to encourage S/T sales.
Low income area and the cost of living crisis / rising inflation, and BFC are out of step.
Positive comms are missing and signs of intention we aren’t in for another season of turmoil and struggle. Starting the season flat again and not learning anything from last year.
 
Wizaard said:
If finances are that tight that you can't find £20, you shouldn't be getting a season ticket at all.
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I know I shouldn't get involved in this silly thread but that's just nonsense Wiz.

Old folk are being charged an additional £20 because they don't happen to have a smartphone.

It's not whether they can afford an additional £20 or not.

If you went out for a meal and they put £5 on your bill because you were bespectacled, I'm sure you wouldn't be best pleased and even less pleased if I popped up from the next table telling you that if you couldn't afford an extra fiver then you really shouldn't be eating out.
 
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