Liam Rosenior

Well if he's not watching Love Island or not inteligent enough he wont be our man, but for me
he ticks all the boxes ! he's just spent the last season in the Championship hands on.
 
There are very few appointments that don’t come with a certain amount of risk. Grayson (the appointment that many would have classed as a “sure thing” for L1 promotion) turned out to be an absolute flop.

Ultimately, I think we’ve got to put trust in the people we have at the helm to make the right decision…. And if we need to bring in an older head to support (Again) then no doubt that’s what will happen.

Evatt would absolutely be my first and last choice tbh, but out of the other options discussed so far, Rosenior certainly comes across as the most credible to me…. He clearly lacks time in coaching and Managerial experience, but he has qualities that most footballers and some coaches don’t have ….
 
Insider said:
I'm sure you can find positives and negatives about all the contenders.
From those that are in the frame I just feel that Rosenior is the best. The article a few posts up is the sort of thing I'd be telling the BFC Board and if I was interviewing him it would impress me.
BUT I don't have a crystal ball and he could "tank".
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Just a hell of a risk to give someone who hasn't proven much the main job.

poolfc said:
It kept costing more money to keep putting extra people around Critchley until it worked so they should know by now about managing the risks they're prepared to take.
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Critch was a risk too. We took on CC and McCall part time to support him. Logical thing to do given his lack of management experience. He had loads more coaching experience than Rosenior has, and worked under Klopp too.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
And preferably not like this….

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I agree.

Walking over to the North and giving them a clap for the support and maybe a raise of the fist for next manager please.

The shushing and the trembling of the hands followed by the 3 ye ye ye were always cringe and i never participated but maybe the young uns liked it and im getting to be a grumpy old fart i dont know
 
gjr69 said:
I don't think we can afford a good, experienced championship head coach.
Duff and Evatt have more experience of being the boss, Rosenior has more experience of the Championship, so no obvious choice.
It probably comes down to who deals with the interview process best, if I was betting on that basis it would be Rosenior.
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You’re probably right, all the decent Championship Manager/Head coaches are all currently employed in the League, usually at much bigger clubs than us so it’s out of he realms of possibility.

We could probably afford Championship managerial experience. There’s people like Monk and Woodgate out there, I’m not suggesting I’d want these two they’re a bit of a regressive step for me, but I think we could attract it.

But equally Evatt and Duff have experience of managing a professional league side, their transition would need to be tactical more than anything to cope with the level of competition.
Tbh I think I’d prefer that over a Liam Rosenior, who as a few have pointed out could very easily shit the bed as soon as the first shots are fired in anger.

But like I said Rosenior could come in and be a revelation as he seems very smart, would love to sit in on the interviews. But thank fook I’m not making the decision.
 
AngelBFC said:
I agree.

Walking over to the North and giving them a clap for the support and maybe a raise of the fist for next manager please.

The shushing and the trembling of the hands followed by the 3 ye ye ye were always cringe and i never participated but maybe the young uns liked it and im getting to be a grumpy old fart i dont know
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I tend to agree, I think most just joined in with it so as not to leave Quitley hanging and looking daft.. It was his first proper job so you have to play along a bit 👍
 
He would be a risk, but personally I prefer it when our club takes risks. Safe isn't exciting. And experience isn't a guarantee of success, far from it. The reason we've put in place the coaching and recruitment structure we have is to minimise the risk of appointing someone who hasn't been a head coach before, but has all the attributes to make a good one. And if these slightly riskier appointments turn out for the better, they really can be very rewarding.
 
SeasideKurt said:
I think we are jumping the gun here. I don’t believe that Rosenior and Duff are the only ones that have been interviewed.
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Wasn’t Challinor supposed to be be bring interviewed? Also I terstingly Mansfield said in the piece he did that they keep upto date with coaches abroad - maybe some off the radar foreign guy could crop up?
 
Don't know an awful lot about him but seems a risk with no managerial experience and only some u23 and his time at Derby for experience.

Maybe someone can sell me on why he's so good? Was he the brains behind Derby?

Critch was one of the top coaches and had much experience in that area, no managerial but he came to us in league 1 and took him a while to get going.
 
voyeur said:
I'm all for the approach of having a talented young coach with an experienced mentor.
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He'd definitely need to arrive on day one with someone experienced as part of his staff and for the club to be willing to clear a path for them even if they want to keep to the same structure.

Not sure about pairing someone at random with the two coaches left behind and expecting them to simply carry on regardless and as if Critchley hadn't ruined Mansford's weekend on the pimms last week.
 
voyeur said:
What does that mean?

He's got very little coaching experience, it seems to me, and no management or head coach experience.
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Four years coaching experience at a high level and UEFA A Qualified. That not enough? I'd just say he's better qualified than crotch was and hes actually worked with senior team players, unlike crotch.
 
tangible said:
Four years coaching experience at a high level and UEFA A Qualified. That not enough? I'd just say he's better qualified than crotch was and hes actually worked with senior team players, unlike crotch.
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2 of the 4 years were as assistant to the U23 coach at Brighton. Critch has loads more coaching experience, inckuding Liverpool . Hence he's now at Villa, in charge of coaching.
 
tangible said:
Four years coaching experience at a high level and UEFA A Qualified. That not enough? I'd just say he's better qualified than crotch was and hes actually worked with senior team players, unlike crotch.
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In fairness, Critchley was one of a pretty small number of coaches to have the UEFA Elite Badge. 👍
 
hertfordseasider said:
The deal at Derby looks like it isn't going to go through, just listened to a piece about it on Radio 5, they are right up shit creek. It will mean Rooney will be out of a job too! Rosenior would be my preferred choice along with Courts or Evo so would be delighted if he got it. I have a sneaky feeling he will.
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Why Courts? What do you know about him? Seems like he might be a good partner for Chissy 😂
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Thatseasider said:
You’re probably right, all the decent Championship Manager/Head coaches are all currently employed in the League, usually at much bigger clubs than us so it’s out of he realms of possibility.

We could probably afford Championship managerial experience. There’s people like Monk and Woodgate out there, I’m not suggesting I’d want these two they’re a bit of a regressive step for me, but I think we could attract it.

But equally Evatt and Duff have experience of managing a professional league side, their transition would need to be tactical more than anything to cope with the level of competition.
Tbh I think I’d prefer that over a Liam Rosenior, who as a few have pointed out could very easily shit the bed as soon as the first shots are fired in anger.

But like I said Rosenior could come in and be a revelation as he seems very smart, would love to sit in on the interviews. But thank fook I’m not making the decision.
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From what I've seen, heard and read about Rosenior, he doesn't look the sort to 's hit the bed'. He's had more experience in coaching serious football than critch did when he joined us, plus he's actually played most of his career at prem and championship level. He's probably more qualified than Gerard, and at least as intelligent.
 
For those saying it's done still places taking bets and would we really get it all done in less than a week.....

Doubt it, but who knows.
 
Sources close to me tell me it’s time for bodies. Hopefully the fog will lift soon, the seagulls will eat the fish and all will become clear.
Night all 😎
 
Has crutch got any playing experience at the top level, like Rosenior
voyeur said:
2 of the 4 years were as assistant to the U23 coach at Brighton. Critch has loads more coaching experience, inckuding Liverpool . Hence he's now at Villa, in charge of coaching.
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Has crutch got any playing experience at the top level, like Rosenior? That's got to count for a lot. I wouldn't say crutch has 'loads more' coaching experience either.(sorry, I've stopped spell checking 'critch'.)
 
tangible said:
Has crutch got any playing experience at the top level, like Rosenior

Has crutch got any playing experience at the top level, like Rosenior? That's got to count for a lot. I wouldn't say crutch has 'loads more' coaching experience either.(sorry, I've stopped spell checking 'critch'.)
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He's got a lot more years coaching experience and 7 of those at one of the top clubs in the world working under one of the world's best head coaches. Rosenior has done very little in comparison really. 2 years U23 assistant at Brighton. 2 years assistant at Derby.

I'd take him as assistant, not as head coach. He'll have about as much attachment as Critch too, how long would he stay if he did well?
 
tangible said:
From what I've seen, heard and read about Rosenior, he doesn't look the sort to 's hit the bed'. He's had more experience in coaching serious football than critch did when he joined us, plus he's actually played most of his career at prem and championship level. He's probably more qualified than Gerard, and at least as intelligent.
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I could agree with all but the last bit, that Scouse oaf (good footballer) but that's it. He has a miserable demeanour. 😀
 
voyeur said:
He's got a lot more years coaching experience and 7 of those at one of the top clubs in the world working under one of the world's best head coaches. Rosenior has done very little in comparison really. 2 years U23 assistant at Brighton. 2 years assistant at Derby.

I'd take him as assistant, not as head coach. He'll have about as much attachment as Critch too, how long would he stay if he did well?
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Two years at Derby where things haven't been that comfortable, and as the number two, and the coach, he's overseen Derbys improvement in form. (Yes I k ow they were relegated, but we know that was nothing to do with LR)
Apart from coaching promising lads, and working under Klopp, what had critch actually done.
And do you really not value Roseniors playing career at prem and champ level? as you don't mention it. Anyhow, it comes down to what the board think. I think he has more that qualifies him now, than what NC had when he was appointed. But it's all opinions. 👍
 
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