Liverpool.... always the victims

They've had an apology from PGMOL, like we did.

It makes up for the dozens of dodgy decisions that have gone their way since VAR came in
 
Football is ruined. Been to Barnsley today and Im of the opinion as I have for a while, there is ABSOLUTELY no need for linesmen anymore. The ref is God and jury regardless. Disgraceful what I have seen on MOTD tonight. And even worse listening to the paid politburo of Lineker and Shearer. Football is fckd.
 
Apparently VAR did the check and said " check complete " totally forgetting the onfield decision was no goal.
Freeze framing the Jones tackle was another odd one by VAR. A still picture of the end of the Jones tackle on screen as ref arrived at the screen. His first view should be the incident at full speed surely ?
Human error, even with the help of technology, why do we bother ?
 
A lot of the comments seem to be based on whether the person seems to cheer on Liverpool or one of the Manchester teams in the pub.
Ignoring the team I find it extremely dangerous that decisions like these were made and stood. It just makes me wonder if betting/match fixing has got into the game or will do. I hope they look into the betting for this game and others.
 
Bottom line, it's pish. No matter how much we disagree with the decisions of the ref, its 1000 percent better if that is the decision. All this trial by TV kills the spontaneity of the game. Take away the razzmatazz and that's what it's got. It's a live product.
 
When they reviewed last season they found 6 decisions by VAR were clearly mistakes and a further 6 where the VAR should have intervened but didn't. There were also others that were very close or marginal, but were given in favour of the defending team. I thought they were supposed to favour the scorer on unclear decisions?
Not in favour of the system myself.
 
I like goal line technology; it's not faultless, but it's plenty good enough.

VAR is awful. I didn't want it, and there's nothing I've seen which suggests it's that much better than real time decisions.

It's funny as an the media types were crying out for it, and now, are crying out against it.

Human error and inconsistency occurs on a pitch and sat in front of a monitor.
 
What's the point in VAR if it isn't used properly?
I couldn't believe the decision.
Apparently the Referee has apologised, that's OK then. 😟
 
TSSeasider said:
I like goal line technology; it's not faultless, but it's plenty good enough.

VAR is awful. I didn't want it, and there's nothing I've seen which suggests it's that much better than real time decisions.

It's funny as an the media types were crying out for it, and now, are crying out against it.

Human error and inconsistency occurs on a pitch and sat in front of a monitor.
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there would be way far more incorrect offside decisions without the use of VAR. I think it's right that it should be used and yesterday was just an awful human error and nothing to do with VAR at all. It's the contentious issues of handballs and fouls in the box which is the major problem and all those are subjective and down to humans to make. The technology provides everything needed, it's just down to humans to get it more right.
 
Davepick said:
What's the point in VAR if it isn't used properly?
I couldn't believe the decision.
Apparently the Referee has apologised, that's OK then. 😟
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Think you need to check what's been said Dav. The VAR ref thought the goal had been given and said "check complete". The goal had been disallowed and the game had been restarted when the VAR realised he'd messed up and the rules say once play restarts you can't go back. All down to human error not VAR
 
TSSeasider said:
I like goal line technology; it's not faultless, but it's plenty good enough.

VAR is awful. I didn't want it, and there's nothing I've seen which suggests it's that much better than real time decisions.

It's funny as an the media types were crying out for it, and now, are crying out against it.

Human error and inconsistency occurs on a pitch and sat in front of a monitor.
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Media types just criticise whatever is in place, they're always negative and the grass is always greener elsewhere.
 
20togo said:
Think you need to check what's been said Dav. The VAR ref thought the goal had been given and said "check complete". The goal had been disallowed and the game had been restarted when the VAR realised he'd messed up and the rules say once play restarts you can't go back. All down to human error not VAR
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Video Assistant Referee.

It is all down to the VAR - not the technology, but the referee - as it always was

I also think that the ridiculously fine margins just aren't necessary and ruin the spontaneity of football.
 
TSSeasider said:
Video Assistant Referee.

It is all down to the VAR - not the technology, but the referee - as it always was

I also think that the ridiculously fine margins just aren't necessary and ruin the spontaneity of football.
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yep, those fine margins are another debate but as the saying goes if you're offside you're offside be it by an inch or a mile. I'm more than happy with offside and VAR, I think it works fine. It's the other areas that frustrates me with the contentious handball decisions and soft fouls as such being given as penalties. It's those areas where the refs are found wanting.
 
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bfcpete said:
When they reviewed last season they found 6 decisions by VAR were clearly mistakes and a further 6 where the VAR should have intervened but didn't. There were also others that were very close or marginal, but were given in favour of the defending team. I thought they were supposed to favour the scorer on unclear decisions?
Not in favour of the system myself.
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There are 760 matches in a Premier League season. If there are just 2 VAR incidents per match, that makes 0.4% mistakes and a similar % where the outcome may have been different. Given the human factor, not too bad a result. How many referee mistakes/unseens were put right through VAR?
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Having a VAR should be a faultless system, unfortunately the VAR’s are clearly incompetent.

So many errors already this season.
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Proof of the fact, if further proof be needed, and regardless of where you stand personally on the issue, for the purpose of retrospectively reviewing certain questionable passages of play, the new system is VAR from perfect ...
 
Whoever did the VAR check should be made tea boy and never do that job again. It could cost a top team a European place or the title. Tens of millions of pounds all down to an idiot cocking it right up. And after a sterling defensive effort they had that cruel unfortunate own goal to really rub it in. I’d feel sorry for any side of that happened to them…. aside from the nobbers of course.
 
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