Management rumour from BBC website

thedevilsadvocate said:
Just pointing it out JJ. I'm confused by your posts because you post contradictory stuff. Do you want Appleton out or in ?
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I'm just saying the merits of an appointment like that in my opinion.

I wouldn't be against a new guy as we know the lift it can give the whole club.

But I wasn't screaming for Appleton to go, although seeing as he's lost most the fans, results are shit then he probably should do.

But if he isn't then I'll l always back the team regardless.

Have said I do feel a bit sorry for him, tough hand etc, but also needs to do better.
 
TheRealKingKenny said:
I wouldn't class Dobbie as a Pool legend. There would be about 10 players in that team I'd put before him.

Naming him as Head Coach would seem like a risky move to me, I'd want someone with experience in that role given our predicament.
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I would, he was class for us, but either way, he's in your best 11 😉 and fondly remembered.

Appleton had massive negatives in fans minds when he arrived, someone like Dobbie and or Adam are massively well thought of.

Dobbie, Adam and an experienced assistant all on the same team. Watch crowds rise and feelgood reappear.
 
JJpool said:
I would, he was class for us, but either way, he's in your best 11 😉 and fondly remembered.

Appleton had massive negatives in fans minds when he arrived, someone like Dobbie and or Adam are massively well thought of.

Dobbie, Adam and an experienced assistant all on the same team. Watch crowds rise and feelgood reappear.
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He would make my bench. I remember him more as an impact player but fondly remembered as you say.
 
JJpool said:
I would, he was class for us, but either way, he's in your best 11 😉 and fondly remembered.

Appleton had massive negatives in fans minds when he arrived, someone like Dobbie and or Adam are massively well thought of.

Dobbie, Adam and an experienced assistant all on the same team. Watch crowds rise and feelgood reappear.
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I think you’re barking up the wrong tree with this legend thing JJ. Plenty from that era woukd fit into that category, but Dobbie was in and out on loan, he was never actually a Blackpool Player, never mind a Blackpool Legend.

Of course, like many other players, we remember his association with our club fondly and it’s great that he’s settled here in a coaching role.

We might have got away with a speculative appointment like that in L1, but the fans will be looking for a better appointment right now. I’m not convinced that even a genuine legend like Charlie would cut the mustard tbh… He needs to prove himself at a lower level first…

I do think an Evatt might have that kind of effect, but there are reasons why he won’t and didn’t get the job, I’m sure. Rob Edwards too would have gone down well here.

We might get away with and ‘Adam & Thommo’ appointment (from the fans perspective), but personally I think they’d take us down.
 
JJpool said:
Jeez, zero advantages..... it's all or nothing with you isn't it.

The atmosphere is like a morgue currently. Of course it would lift massively. A legend would get massive fan buy in. He know and gets fans, gets the club already.

If you think it wouldn't generate some excitement, with an experienced assistant then you really don't know the club at all.

Fans are against Appleton, the place needs a lift.

As said I think it too early but I can see some benefits like already being at the club and knows the players and setup.
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Only if he wins games

Lose a couple and our fickle fans will turn
 
Sooty59 said:
Of the choices we may have I’d like to see Evatt prised away from Bolton. Offer enough dough & it usually does the trick.
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IF MA does go, Evvo would be a good appointment.
However, the reasons for that being highly unlikely, have been well versed on here recently.
But .... you never know!
 
fcblackpool said:
In fairness Gatwick to Scotland is quicker than driving from here and less stress.
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but driving from Blackpool to his home is door to door. Getting to Gatwick and then waiting in departure lounge til take off. Then getting from whichever airport to his home all takes time too. I'd say it was a cast iron certainty that Blackpool to Scotland would be a much quicker option. In other words it was all about money not locality.

All in fairness of course. 😉
 
Sooty59 said:
I know we would struggle to compete with the mighty Trotters but that's who I would like.
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Yes, they're a decent club Sooty & their home gate Vs Derby midweek was 25,428; their biggest gate since the PL league. They're currently 6th in the league & Evvo appears happy.
BUT the challenges at BFC may be too irresistible for the big guy to ignore 🧡
It's currently hypothetical, as MA doesn't appear to be going anywhere anytime soon - so I'll have to back him.
 
I think the only option is to stick with Appleton- I still think with a couple of additions he could keep us up ,just.
Who seriously would come to take on a relatively weak squad in a relegation dogfight - all the realistic names mentioned would constitute one hell of a punt
I always knew,as did many on here,this would be a tougher season than last .That was even before Critchley scappered
We need to get behind the team and club ,as the alternative is shite
 
20togo said:
but driving from Blackpool to his home is door to door. Getting to Gatwick and then waiting in departure lounge til take off. Then getting from whichever airport to his home all takes time too. I'd say it was a cast iron certainty that Blackpool to Scotland would be a much quicker option. In other words it was all about money not locality.

All in fairness of course. 😉
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In equal fairness, he is a Glasgee boy and it would be a domestic flight with fewer hurdles. He also wouldn't have the stress of driving to Glasgow in winter conditions which can be 3 hours (although I've done 2h 6m to Celtic Park 😉).

I know which I'd prefer on a Sat night after a game. Sit back, snooze for an hour and get picked up at the airport.

Remember the French guy played for Nice I think, we tried to sign years ago. He was from Monaco and choose Luton who were way below, over us. Wonder what swayed him😉
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Not really, because he was appointed in August, rather than January and was essentially kept on due to performing ok. There’s a significant difference between taking a chance on someone in August with a view to replacing if it doesn’t work out with quickly and thrusting someone into the midst of a relegation battle and being forced to go shit or bust in them.
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It should have been done after Wigan. Worth remembering that it is only around half way through the season so there still is time. Need a new manager in ASAP though.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think you’re barking up the wrong tree with this legend thing JJ. Plenty from that era woukd fit into that category, but Dobbie was in and out on loan, he was never actually a Blackpool Player, never mind a Blackpool Legend.

Of course, like many other players, we remember his association with our club fondly and it’s great that he’s settled here in a coaching role.

We might have got away with a speculative appointment like that in L1, but the fans will be looking for a better appointment right now. I’m not convinced that even a genuine legend like Charlie would cut the mustard tbh… He needs to prove himself at a lower level first…

I do think an Evatt might have that kind of effect, but there are reasons why he won’t and didn’t get the job, I’m sure. Rob Edwards too would have gone down well here.

We might get away with and ‘Adam & Thommo’ appointment (from the fans perspective), but personally I think they’d take us down.
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He's fondly remembered, an ex player, part of the side who won prom to the prem, who would have fans give him time.

Unlike Appleton who people already hated, for whatever reasons.

Ideally yes more time is needed for them. Just from a pov of giving the place a lift. Getting fans onside and the atmosphere back, which might be enough to keep us up, all pulling in the same direction, he would do that.

Even if people weren't sure, it's not like they hated him from the go like Appleton, you'll never get someone everyone wants but Appleton no one wanted.

We're probably heading that way as it stands under Appleton so you might say nothing to lose.
 
AngelBFC said:
Only if he wins games

Lose a couple and our fickle fans will turn
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Eventually, any manager would lose fans, no more fickle than most fans.

But he would be given far far more time than Appleton has been given.

There'd be no dislike, even if people didn't know if he's the man for the job.

He'd actually show passion when we win, which creates unity between fans, players and manager when you can see how much it means to them, rather than a bloke in the background with the odd clap.
 
JJpool said:
He's fondly remembered, an ex player, part of the side who won prom to the prem, who would have fans give him time.

Unlike Appleton who people already hated, for whatever reasons.

Ideally yes more time is needed for them. Just from a pov of giving the place a lift. Getting fans onside and the atmosphere back, which might be enough to keep us up, all pulling in the same direction, he would do that.

Even if people weren't sure, it's not like they hated him from the go like Appleton, you'll never get someone everyone wants but Appleton no one wanted.

We're probably heading that way as it stands under Appleton so you might say nothing to lose.
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I’m sorry JJ, but this is not the Karl Oyston era where fans are going to accept cheapest bloke gets the job, just because he’s an ex player.

Micky Mellon was a great player for Blackpool, but our fans would have been disappointed if he’d have been appointed manager.

I don’t get this idea of simply picking a name out of the 2010 squad hat and hoping for the best.. It’s just ridiculous to me…

I suppose it just goes to show why the board should take absolutely no notice of supporters whatsoever !!
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m sorry JJ, but this is not the Karl Oyston era where fans are going to accept cheapest bloke gets the job, just because he’s an ex player.

Micky Mellon was a great player for Blackpool, but our fans would have been disappointed if he’d have been appointed manager.

I don’t get this idea of simply picking a name out of the 2010 squad hat and hoping for the best.. It’s just ridiculous to me…

I suppose it just goes to show why the board should take absolutely no notice of supporters whatsoever !!
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It's nothing to do with being cheap, if he's good and someone fans like and gets the club.

Micky Mellon isn't an exciting ex player to most. Whereas Dobbie is, is making a big impression in his coaching roles and know the club already.

I've always said it should just have been someone with no history to us.

But as a dream team for fan buy in and ticket sales the ex players like Evatt are the ones of we wanted to maximise ticket sales etc.

Obviously they can't listen to all fans but let's face it, it can't be any worse than 2 of their choices can it. Far too safe and uninspiring, lacking ambition.

Of course this type of appointment would be a bit of a gamble, like any and I don't think the board is that adventurous.
 
Lets have co-player managers to keep us in this division. I nominate Big Gaz and Kenny D dream ticket
 
JJpool said:
It's nothing to do with being cheap, if he's good and someone fans like and gets the club.

Micky Mellon isn't an exciting ex player to most. Whereas Dobbie is, is making a big impression in his coaching roles and know the club already.

I've always said it should just have been someone with no history to us.

But as a dream team for fan buy in and ticket sales the ex players like Evatt are the ones of we wanted to maximise ticket sales etc.

Obviously they can't listen to all fans but let's face it, it can't be any worse than 2 of their choices can it. Far too safe and uninspiring, lacking ambition.

Of course this type of appointment would be a bit of a gamble, like any and I don't think the board is that adventurous.
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I’m out…

Totally ridiculous discussion…. 👍
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m out…

Totally ridiculous discussion…. 👍
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It's a hypothetical discussion anyway.

Of course some lack the vision, fail to fully grasp the effect of the feelgood factor and packing out the stadium.

Everyone has to start somewhere, bit I've already said it's probably too early.
 
JJpool said:
It's a hypothetical discussion anyway.

Of course some lack the vision, fail to fully grasp the effect of the feelgood factor and packing out the stadium.

Everyone has to start somewhere, bit I've already said it's probably too early.
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It’s just more ‘magic ponies and fairy dust’
 
I've said before i'd like us to back apples with a few new faces and hopefully he turns it around however if we were to get rid I'd want Evatt (but I don't think we will or could get anymore) or alternatively Richie Wellens although I'm sure some of our lot wouldnt be happy with him either.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m all for taking calculated risks… Unfortunately this just sits in the realm of rank stupidity.
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I was just saying the merits of such an appointment. Said all along ideally it's a bit soon for him. But some clubs take gables on people who are getting their first chance. A but like we did with Critchley, although a top coach, no managerial experience, it showed at times but also it worked brilliantly with an experienced assistant.
 
Much as I think Steven Dobbie has made a good start in his coaching career and anyone who was at that glorious night in Nottingham must regard him as a young god, it was always frustrating that he didn't sign for us when he had the chance. If Appleton does go - and that is a massive if - then it would need to be someone with experience to get us out of this hole methinks and then a complete rethink in May.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
We’re in the midst of a battle for our survival in the Championship and folk are seriously mentioning names like ‘Dobbie’ ?

If we’re going to just randomly roll the dice here with a completely untried individual, then to be honest we would be better just sticking with 🍎 🐕 and improving the squad.

It’s one thing bringing in a Critchley type or an untested Manager option at L1 or L2 level, but in the Championship and when your survival depends on it???
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Some folks can't think of a name if there's no association with the club, hence Dobbie, Adam, Evatt, Thompson, even Holloway getting far too many mentions.
 
20togo said:
pretty sure he didn't sign for us permanently because he wanted to be closer to his family in Scotland. He then signed Brighton.
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I stand to be corrected but I'm pretty sure that The Dobster settled in Lytham during his spell with us. Regardless of his football moves he retained his Lytham residence and evidence of that is that his son has been in the BFC Academy for a few years now.
Sometimes you need to take a chance on an appointment such as Dobbie. I'm not saying we should but he'd get plenty of advice from the "Class of 2010" on their group chat on WhatsApp.
Give him Thommo as his number 2 and I wouldn't be disappointed.
 
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I think if we're going to pull the trigger it has to be someone with some pedigree, if we're talking legends than Ian Evatt is the only one from those days I'd go for.

Yes Bolton are a "bigger club" they are not in the championship, don't have much money to spend, if he was promised a significant budget for Jan and his wages were doubled, who knows. No idea if that's something Sadler would be willing to do, or Evatt would even consider, but I'd be asking.
 
Wizaard said:
Some folks can't think of a name if there's no association with the club, hence Dobbie, Adam, Evatt, Thompson, even Holloway getting far too many mentions.
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Anyone can think of plenty of names not associated with us and they'll be tons of number 2s who might step up. But an advantage of Dobbie is he knows the club, is liked and is already here.

Also, any issues with you him just pop to booths and have it out.

The reason also for an ex player is it creates excitement if someone who popular is involved, they get more time and more fan buy in.
 
585 = never give up said:
Yes, they're a decent club Sooty & their home gate Vs Derby midweek was 25,428; their biggest gate since the PL league. They're currently 6th in the league & Evvo appears happy.
BUT the challenges at BFC may be too irresistible for the big guy to ignore 🧡
It's currently hypothetical, as MA doesn't appear to be going anywhere anytime soon - so I'll have to back him.
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There is absolutely zero chance he will come here now, that chance has long gone. We should have got him instead of Quitchley and he would still be here now. We may even have been able to tempt him after snake Quitch slithered off but it was highly unlikely then too. The board have made a catalogue of bad decisions and it is because of that it is why we are where we are now.
 
Insider said:
I stand to be corrected but I'm pretty sure that The Dobster settled in Lytham during his spell with us. Regardless of his football moves he retained his Lytham residence and evidence of that is that his son has been in the BFC Academy for a few years now.
Sometimes you need to take a chance on an appointment such as Dobbie. I'm not saying we should but he'd get plenty of advice from the "Class of 2010" on their group chat on WhatsApp.
Give him Thommo as his number 2 and I wouldn't be disappointed.
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I bet some who are against the idea of Dobbie havent even analysed what he's about. Watch the ttv segments. Search his time at afc fylde.

This guy is going to make it, you can just see it in him.

It's a bit early but with an experienced assistant there's no reason it couldn't work if he was needed if it didn't work out with Appleton and they thought a new man would take too long to get to know the players. Afterall with limited games you need to hit the ground running.

That's how he might be an advantage now, ideally we'd see him in a year or two. Problem is he'd have to gain experience somewhere else and then we'd miss out

It's a bit like with youth players, sometimes you have to just play them, not all develop at the same rate and some will handle the step up.

Already being here helps him and being fully supported too in familiar surroundings helps.
 
Tbf JJ the odd clip here and there isn’t persuasive

I think the people at the club are best placed to assess his quality as a potential future manager

Also the tracking down of non believers in booths concerns me and raises some doubts . Bit desperate imo
 
AngelBFC said:
Tbf JJ the odd clip here and there isn’t persuasive

I think the people at the club are best placed to assess his quality as a potential future manager

Also the tracking down of non believers in booths concerns me and raises some doubts . Bit desperate imo
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He won the North-West Youth Alliance Manager of the Season at AFC.

Doing really well with the dev squad, playing good football, getting a lot of out players, getting results.

He's a good character, likable, commanding.

Could do worse with am experienced assistant.

But yeah he will search you out in a local supermarket.
 
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JJpool said:
He won the North-West Youth Alliance Manager of the Season at AFC.

Doing really well with the dev squad, playing good football, getting a lot of out players, getting results.

He's for a good character, likable, commanding.

Could do worse with am experienced assistant.

But yeah he will search you out in a local supermarket.
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North West Youth Alliance Manager of the Season ????????

Such an accolade is not sufficient

BFC are in one of the most competitive leagues in Europe man
 
AngelBFC said:
North West Youth Alliance Manager of the Season ????????

Such an accolade is not sufficient

BFC are in one of the most competitive leagues in Europe man
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We don't pay to get an experienced manager at this level, best one we had was a youth coach with 0 managerial experience who stepped up. Turned out alright.

I guess me and insider see potential at early stages. Anyway it was only hypothetical, it won't happen.
 
TonyEllisTopBins said:
Absolutely no chance. Bolton just had a 25k crowd on Boxing Day. He’s not leaving that environment for us
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My 2 lads are Bolton fans, they tell me the football is dire. Evatt’s team selections, formations, tactics and substitutions surprise even the staunchest of Bolton supporters. Evatt has signed loads of players but very few of them have been successes. Why does the next Blackpool Manager have to be a former player?
 
JJpool said:
He won the North-West Youth Alliance Manager of the Season at AFC.

Doing really well with the dev squad, playing good football, getting a lot of out players, getting results.

He's a good character, likable, commanding.

Could do worse with am experienced assistant.

But yeah he will search you out in a local supermarket.
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Dobbie has more chance of getting the Manager’s job at
Booths than he has of getting the Blackpool Manager’s job.
 
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