O/T Puppy

BobHatton

BobHatton

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Getting a brand new puppy in a week (Jack Russell). Has anyone any tips for their first night(s) at home? We've gotten him a crate (cage) for him to sleep in but obviously he won't want to do his toilet business in there and so will undoubtedly cry to come out several times a night. We're going to be using puppy pads to train him where to go.
Any tips anyone? How long do the broken sleeps last?
 
Good luck..we got a border terrier in Lockdown at 4 months old...It's hard bloody work taking it for 2 long walks a day, and constantly wanting attention..but the good thing is when in the crate/cage at 11pm and lights off she goes to sleep, and we awake her getting up at 7...(first few months wife slept on sofa downstairs with her, and gradually introduced her to the cage...we made sure she had wees n poos before that..yes pads was the only way..but even then they were not that successful..liked the carpet better grr!...Then one night mrs came to bed and we didn't hear a thing from pup..and its continued..if we see a state of anxiety in pup, we may treat her to a sleep on the bed with us, but don't make this common practice. Advice..get a good trainer to learn recall with treats on a long lead..and how to walk by your side properly..Ours is nearly a year old and still not off a lead as she'd be off chasing other dogs..A trainer is worth it, though there are some good online lessons. Our feed is raw meat minced up ( none of that can stuff ) around 65gms of 3 portions a day...Avoid at all costs pup eating raisnins, chocolate, grapes apple seeds and any chewing gum he may sniff out on walks..you'd be surprised..or its a big vets bill to inject them and get them to sick it out..Strange tonight our pups just chundered out his food as I caught him licking 3 in 1 oil after oiling kids bike ! They'll eat anything ! Don't fall into the trap of giving him bits of food from your plate..he'll be there expecting it every time you eat, or you'll find him on thre table !! ...don't let the pup into the kitchen ..they'll get in the way.. I've found it quite an impact on the family and you can have arguments around the dog too.."Why don't you take him out I did it yesterday" ..why did you feed him that"..why did you let him eat my trainers" etc etc..besides the dog 'Wolfie' is great..but I do miss our cat..he didn't need attention :)
 
Thanks for all that - some interesting tips my friend! We've got a quarter acre fenced yard so walks won't be a problem.....but chewing trainers might be!🤣
 
My advice, let it off the lead straight away with plenty of treats, our dog is brilliant off the lead, there’s so many dogs not socialised with others they just want to attack or go crazy when walking down the street.
You can’t enjoy your dog if it’s constantly on the lead while out walking
 
seasidestevo said:
My advice, let it off the lead straight away with plenty of treats, our dog is brilliant off the lead, there’s so many dogs not socialised with others they just want to attack or go crazy when walking down the street.
You can’t enjoy your dog if it’s constantly on the lead while out walking
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I personally won’t let our cocker spaniel off his lead, mainly because of their daft nature I wouldn’t trust him.

Secondly my theory is if another dog went for him/attacked him (and there’s been a few who have growled nastily at him) if he’s on a lead I have more chance of getting him out of danger then if he isn’t. The amount of times I hear “my dog isn’t usually like that” when someone else’s dog snaps at mine, and if they aren’t on a lead that worries me.
 
When I've had a pup I've always set the dog bed at the side of the bed to settle them down.
 
PR3BFC said:
I personally won’t let our cocker spaniel off his lead, mainly because of their daft nature I wouldn’t trust him.

Secondly my theory is if another dog went for him/attacked him (and there’s been a few who have growled nastily at him) if he’s on a lead I have more chance of getting him out of danger then if he isn’t. The amount of times I hear “my dog isn’t usually like that” when someone else’s dog snaps at mine, and if they aren’t on a lead that worries me.
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That’s why we let ours off straight away, at least if they start running off you can catch them being so small 😂
Our neighbours never let theirs off, if a doors left open they see it as freedom and leg it
 
Give the owner an old well worn jumper/t-shirt of yours/family so pup can get used to smell (not in a bad way) and make sure they cut a bit of the puppy blanket up for you so pup has a familiar smell.

Pup WILL cry, but be strong and don’t give in - sounds cruel but they will soon settle down at night and sleep, which they do lots of!

Bound to be accidents, a VAX Mini Carpet Cleaner costs @£100 but well worth it and quite handy anyway.

Don’t be precious about any property/ornaments/clothes/shoes - they will be chewed!

Well worth it for the fun, love and exercise the pup will bring to your life - enjoy.
 
The walking the dog and meeting other dogs is quite a difficult thing...My trainer says dogs are not to be introduced to other dogs when on leads as they could end up very excited and end up winding the lead around your legs getting you into trouble..so whenever anyone approaches mine and says "would you like them to day hello.." i say no thanks. Our problem at the moment is our dog barks at dogs she passes..so training with distraction and treat method seems to be working..but she hates certain breeds..like Jack Russels :)
 
BobHatton said:
Getting a brand new puppy in a week (Jack Russell). Has anyone any tips for their first night(s) at home? We've gotten him a crate (cage) for him to sleep in but obviously he won't want to do his toilet business in there and so will undoubtedly cry to come out several times a night. We're going to be using puppy pads to train him where to go.
Any tips anyone? How long do the broken sleeps last?
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I have a 6 month old Patterdale and he is still not got it and loves nothing more than cocking his leg on the air vent of the drier. He is losing his family jewels in a few weeks so that will help.
Put a puppy pad at the back of the crate because it will pee in there. Set your alarm to get you up to let it out a few times a night and keep it in a warming room and close the door they will make constant noise until it realises that noise equals nothing. If you break first that dog will be sleeping in your bedroom for the rest of its life
 
I have a Jack Russell. They are fab pets.

My advice for the first 3 months would be to not leave anything lying around. Mine had the TV cable, 2x laptop wires and 4 phone chargers. On top of that shredded carpet (we ended up removing all carpet from downstairs in the house), patio door blinds, bottom of two sofas.

When you go out I suggest a large cage / pen as we didn't and paid the price!
 
Try to spend as much time with them as possible when they are young. Be consistent, kind and firm when required. Jack Russell's like to be given jobs to do. Guarding, chasing, fetching etc.
 
The first few months can be a pain, a crate is an absolute must, get the biggest you can, it's a safe sanctuary for them and time out for you.

Puppy proof everything, everything, last time we got some cheap wood and basically turned the house in to a pen with all cables etc.. behind the wood. Remove any furniture you want to keep.

Don't bother with puppy pads, it just reinforces that they can pee indoors.

Puppy classes are brilliant, even if they don't learn anything it's great for socialisation, you can get the good citizen badge and then go on from there if you like.

Number one piece of advice is don't worry and enjoy it, they'll be an adult soon enough (although in the case of Border Collies about 3 years!).
 
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How I envy you guys.
I was brought up with a dog in the house always.
When MrsDP and I moved south I was going away on a course for a week and she wanted a dog for company.
We went to a kennels, a reputable one in Buckinghamshire which had enclosures with one or two dogs in them. At one this noisy bassett Hound charged down towards the gate, barking etc. Then a timid dog walked down towards us.
He was a Golden Retriever puppy. MrsDP immediately said 'I want him'. He was quite expensive for us at the time, but we had him.
What a wonderful dog he turned out to be.
I still miss him even tough it was 1977 when he passed away.
Never had another dog because we both worked and moved around a lot.
I just pet other peoples dogs. 😃
 
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We have literally just bought a French Bulldog puppy (he is a week old so wont be getting him home for a while yet). Tried to get the dog named Jerry, though the Mrs did inform me if he left for Bolton or Preston then id probably end up hating the him 😂.

Managed to agree on Stanley after our 53` hero's. Fair compromise I think.

Extremely excited mind and will be keeping an eye on this thread for a while.
 
Don't use puppy pads would be my advice, they just delay house training. The quickest route to a fully house trained dog is taking them outside every 10mins and acting like Blackpool have scored a last minute winner every time it does its business in your garden, plus lots of high value treats. For night training make sure the crate has an area it can use to toilet if it needs to.
 
Tycho Brahe said:
Try to spend as much time with them as possible when they are young. Be consistent, kind and firm when required. Jack Russell's like to be given jobs to do. Guarding, chasing, fetching etc.
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Thought that said gardening to start off with
 
BobHatton said:
Getting a brand new puppy in a week (Jack Russell). Has anyone any tips for their first night(s) at home? We've gotten him a crate (cage) for him to sleep in but obviously he won't want to do his toilet business in there and so will undoubtedly cry to come out several times a night. We're going to be using puppy pads to train him where to go.
Any tips anyone? How long do the broken sleeps last?
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We have two addmitedly grown up now ,tire them out as much as you can in the mornings ,they love to play ,and let them know who is boss they are very intelligent dogs ,if they poo or per in the house rub their noses in it ,they will soon stop ( enjoy they aren't puppies for long good look ,and remember a dog is for life👍.
 
We got a pomapoo a year ago, was due to get one this year but got one just at lockdown...

So she had a big crate (massive tbf) and we only used two puppy pads.. shown her the corner and gave her treats each time and cracked it.

She now isn't in crate and when not working from home is fine leaving for 6 hrs.. doesn't come up stairs and hasn't chewed or destroyed anything.. very lucky... but after our last dog (German shepherd) who destroyed the house were due some luck. But enjoy... well worth the hard work.

I've fallen back in love with music as put headphones in and off we walk.. other weekend did 7 miles through town along prom and back.. love it... which is what I'm going to do now
 
Don't give in to whining and allow the dog upstairs. Give it lots of love and praise good behavior but be firm. Remember dogs are pack animals and you are leader of the pack and the dog is bottom of the pack. The dog will be happier that way. Don not feed treats from the table. Socialise as much as possible, especially with children and other dogs. Train good recall and then yiu can let it off the lead. We have a 5 year old Bedlington and she is brilliant! Good luck.
 
seasidestevo said:
That’s why we let ours off straight away, at least if they start running off you can catch them being so small 😂
Our neighbours never let theirs off, if a doors left open they see it as freedom and leg it
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Gotta agree with this. I know your intentions are good, but a life on a lead for a spaniel is half a life. They need freedom to explore, socialise and exercise. I’m not pretending to be an expert, but I recommend you speak to a dog behaviourist with specific knowledge of spaniels.
 
Dogs are great and some are making it sound too complicated

my two sleep in our bedroom, one on a bed on the floor and one on our bed ...it’s lovely

as regards teaching em to pee outside....it’s simple, let em out every 20 mins and praise em to death if they pee or shit outside, make disapproving sounds when they pee and shit inside, as they will.......remember it will take em a while to catch on but not that long if you are consistent
 
Yep would agree with that. It took less than a week to train our cockapoo (see avatar) to go outside for a crap/pee. We tried originally to get her to sleep downstairs in a large cage, but she cried loudly all night so we had to relent after a week (the lad started work early and she was keeping him awake). She sleeps in our room and as bloodtangerine says, it's nice and she never wakes us up.

We waited until we were sure she came back when called (again just a couple of days) before we let her off the lead (on the beach usually) as a puppy. We just let her run to use up her energy for an hour or so, it settles her down for the day.
 
Fleetwoodblack said:
Good luck..we got a border terrier in Lockdown at 4 months old...It's hard bloody work taking it for 2 long walks a day, and constantly wanting attention..but the good thing is when in the crate/cage at 11pm and lights off she goes to sleep, and we awake her getting up at 7...(first few months wife slept on sofa downstairs with her, and gradually introduced her to the cage...we made sure she had wees n poos before that..yes pads was the only way..but even then they were not that successful..liked the carpet better grr!...Then one night mrs came to bed and we didn't hear a thing from pup..and its continued..if we see a state of anxiety in pup, we may treat her to a sleep on the bed with us, but don't make this common practice. Advice..get a good trainer to learn recall with treats on a long lead..and how to walk by your side properly..Ours is nearly a year old and still not off a lead as she'd be off chasing other dogs..A trainer is worth it, though there are some good online lessons. Our feed is raw meat minced up ( none of that can stuff ) around 65gms of 3 portions a day...Avoid at all costs pup eating raisnins, chocolate, grapes apple seeds and any chewing gum he may sniff out on walks..you'd be surprised..or its a big vets bill to inject them and get them to sick it out..Strange tonight our pups just chundered out his food as I caught him licking 3 in 1 oil after oiling kids bike ! They'll eat anything ! Don't fall into the trap of giving him bits of food from your plate..he'll be there expecting it every time you eat, or you'll find him on thre table !! ...don't let the pup into the kitchen ..they'll get in the way.. I've found it quite an impact on the family and you can have arguments around the dog too.."Why don't you take him out I did it yesterday" ..why did you feed him that"..why did you let him eat my trainers" etc etc..besides the dog 'Wolfie' is great..but I do miss our cat..he didn't need attention :)
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Not had a dog for years.
40 years in the same job.
Border terriers❤️🥰.
I loved the distinctive YAP.
And they often came in pairs.
 
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