Scapegoat Maxwell - Public enemy no.1

[WeMightScrapeADraw]

The guy had a poor game tonight. We all have a bad day at work from time to time. But he was brilliant against Sheffield United, he pulled off a brilliant save late against Sunderland. He’s had more good days at the office than bad since returning to the sticks. I’m not defending his performance tonight, his decision making was poor all round. But he’s arguably the best keeper we’ve had in 10 years. Let’s not put all the blame on one player.

 

[Wizzerboy]

One game in 5 doesn't make you a good keeper.
If you want someone to moan like fuck and wave their hands about when he knows he's fucked up then I suppose Maxwells your man

 

[Bpooltown54]

I’d be moaning at that pen too if it was me. I’m still fuming about it

 

[CAGU]

The guy had a poor game tonight. We all have a bad day at work from time to time. But he was brilliant against Sheffield United, he pulled off a brilliant save late against Sunderland. He’s had more good days at the office than bad since returning to the sticks. I’m not defending his performance tonight, his decision making was poor all round. But he’s arguably the best keeper we’ve had in 10 years. Let’s not put all the blame on one player.

Defensive mistakes, don’t know what’s happened to Marv, he had a shocker tonight

 

[Wizzerboy]

Said on another thread he’s the scapegoat of the season. Can’t recall one player having a great game tonight yet he’s singled out every game. Hopefully he doesn’t read this thread

He's singled out because invariably if your keeper keeps making mistakes you'll end up losing.
Don't worry too much though, he was helped out my Ekpiteta who looked like he'd never pulled on a pair of boots before tonight.

 

[King Billy]

I’d be moaning at that pen too if it was me. I’m still fuming about it

He moans at every goal we concede.

 

[Qblock]

Defensive mistakes, don’t know what’s happened to Marv, he had a shocker tonight

He’s been poor for a month or so. Dunno what’s happened to him. Has been immense for 2 seasons

 

[King Billy]

Anyone else think ‘Boro targeted him with their crosses?

 

[Wizzerboy]

I’d be moaning at that pen too if it was me. I’m still fuming about it

Moan as much as you want it was defensive naivety that allowed the Boro player to make a mug of the ref

 

[Wizzerboy]

Anyone else think ‘Boro targeted him with their crosses?

EVERY team do, they know he can't/won't come off his line or command his area.

The one time he did actually come out when a Boro player broke free his clearance nearly ricocheted to another Boro forward

 

[seasidelytham]

I’d be moaning at that pen too if it was me. I’m still fuming about it

But how about our quality in passing the ball and fancying around that led to the incident…..total utter garbage

 

[Adams Kebab]

I think the point is.

Dan Grimshaw was dropped for what exactly?

Cos Maxwell talks more and after a mistake at Millwall away potentially??

So if that’s the reason to drop him it swings back the other way now

 

[seasidepaddle]

Maxwell has had several worse games than Grimshaw was dropped for

 

[Raging_Bull]

I'm sick of saying it on here, Grimmy is better, end of story.

I certainly wouldn't blame tonight's shambles on Maxwell we would have lost if we had either of them in nets because we were garbage all over the park and Boro were a class above us, but the reality is Grimmy is a better keeper.

 

[PNENIL]

He's almost Phil Barnes like with crosses .
Grimshaw should be in and that's one thing you can blame the manager for.

 

[Bpooltown54]

If we dropped every player for a bad performance we’d have no squad to play

 

[20togo]

I think the point is.

Dan Grimshaw was dropped for what exactly?

Cos Maxwell talks more and after a mistake at Millwall away potentially??

So if that’s the reason to drop him it swings back the other way now

Grimshaw was dropped because he had a couple of bad games and let some soft goals in. I'd no problem with Maxwell coming back in and although he's dodgy on crosses he's done reasonably well. After tonight , I wouldn't have a problem with Grimshaw getting back in.

 

[ItsGrimUpNorth]

The guy had a poor game tonight. We all have a bad day at work from time to time. But he was brilliant against Sheffield United, he pulled off a brilliant save late against Sunderland. He’s had more good days at the office than bad since returning to the sticks. I’m not defending his performance tonight, his decision making was poor all round. But he’s arguably the best keeper we’ve had in 10 years. Let’s not put all the blame on one player.

It was Marvs fault for the pen. Period.

Maxwell shouldn’t have been put in that position.

 

[johnnyb]

Every player had a shocker tonight but surely if Grimshaw was dropped based on performances, The same should happen to Maxwell because he has been poor for a few games.

 

[Junior_BentsPlatformShoes]

We were collectively awful. We know the first team is competitive and matches can go either way. A team with a second string defence and midfield is no good in this league.
If you want to blame anyone, blame the recruitment team. Summer is now biting us in a big way .

 

[Bpooltown54]

Should marv be dropped too?

 

[parker14]

I’d be moaning at that pen too if it was me. I’m still fuming about it

But it made no difference to the outcome of the game, we were that bad.

 

[parker14]

Should marv be dropped too?

yes, he's garbage.

 

[Wizzerboy]

I'm sick of saying it on here, Grimmy is better, end of story.

I certainly wouldn't blame tonight's shambles on Maxwell we would have lost if we had either of them in nets because we were garbage all over the park and Boro were a class above us, but the reality is Grimmy is a better keeper.

Boro wasn't a class above though.
They were made to look like Real Madrid because of yet another abject performance

 

[Scratcher67]

Why would anyone single out Maxwell ffs? Idiotic OP.

He was no worse than the rest.

 

[mightybfc]

Marv was mainly at fault for the second (along with shocking officials) but for their 1st he was in no man's land, started to come out then changed his mind, and that 3rd was a soft one to concede. I think Maxwell is a solid keeper but Grimmy is miles better with much better distribution.

Maxwell was still punting it long for Madine ten minutes after he'd gone off.

 

[johnnyb]

Why would anyone single out Maxwell ffs? Idiotic OP.

He was no worse than the rest.

What about the original post don't you agree with.

I think he had a very poor game (can you argue against this?) but the OP also said that he was no worse than the other so shouldn't be made a scapegoat which is sort of what you said?

 

[BFCJonny]

There no way Maxwell will start on Saturday after that. Shocking. Grimmy far better. We’re far too easy to play against.

 

[johnnyb]

Marv was mainly at fault for the second (along with shocking officials) but for their 1st he was in no man's land, started to come out then changed his mind, and that 3rd was a soft one to concede. I think Maxwell is a solid keeper but Grimmy is miles better with much better distribution.

Maxwell was still punting it long for Madine ten minutes after he'd gone off.

Yes he seemed to spend the last 10 minutes of the game punting it to their goalkeeper then waving his arms about.

 

[Junior_BentsPlatformShoes]

I’d also blame the World Cup for the midweek games - lower budget teams like us just haven’t the squad to cope. Even Shef. Utd were flat and rubbish tonight.

 

[Simonized]

He is 1 goal headstart for the other team almost every game with his flapping and not coming for crosses.
I said weeks ago he is a liability and how he has kept Grimmy out so long is one of life's great mysteries......

 

[Pauls_Boutique]

He started to come if his line for the first goal then stopped so was out of position.

Dive or not for the penalty he was so slow off his line then started to go with his feet rather than sliding in with his hands to collect the ball.

He was very poor tonight, as was everyone else.

 

[1953+1]

Should marv be dropped too?

If we had another CB I'd say yes. He's been suspect for a few games now. The odd last man clearance doesn't really make up for all the recent mistakes.

 

[JJpool]

The guy had a poor game tonight. We all have a bad day at work from time to time. But he was brilliant against Sheffield United, he pulled off a brilliant save late against Sunderland. He’s had more good days at the office than bad since returning to the sticks. I’m not defending his performance tonight, his decision making was poor all round. But he’s arguably the best keeper we’ve had in 10 years. Let’s not put all the blame on one player.

He's not the reason we lost, but played his part in a shocking display.

People need to accept he's clueless from corners and crosses. Flapping at them and doesn't instill confidence.

He's not good enough.

He doesn't make many saves you wouldn't expect him to make, the Sunderland one had people raving but when you watch it its pretty close to him, a decent stop, but wasn't spectacular like people claim.

 

[Love BFC🍊]

If we could replace Marv with another centre back then yes I’d drop him for a few games. But we haven’t a replacement so he can’t be dropped and he will know this too

 

[Mcewans Mullet]

He's almost Phil Barnes like with crosses .
Grimshaw should be in and that's one thing you can blame the manager for.

He is Barnes-esque with his kicking.

 

[Sooty59]

I'm sick of saying it on here, Grimmy is better, end of story.

I certainly wouldn't blame tonight's shambles on Maxwell we would have lost if we had either of them in nets because we were garbage all over the park and Boro were a class above us, but the reality is Grimmy is a better keeper.

We'd have lost if both of them were in nets.

 

[20togo]

He started to come if his line for the first goal then stopped so was out of position.

Dive or not for the penalty he was so slow off his line then started to go with his feet rather than sliding in with his hands to collect the ball.

He was very poor tonight, as was everyone else.

I blamed him at the time for the first goal but when you see the highlights he is back in position so really could do nothing about it. Thought overall he was poor though.

 

[Victorsponge]

Anyone else think ‘Boro targeted him with their crosses?

Why wouldn't they , they must know he won't come off his line except for their first goal when he ran 5 yards shit his pants turned back and left his goal wide open.

 

[Albert Ross]

I’d also blame the World Cup for the midweek games - lower budget teams like us just haven’t the squad to cope. Even Shef. Utd were flat and rubbish tonight.

Lower budget is nothing to do with squad size. All teams are allowed the same number in their squads. It’s quality we’re short of , not quantity.

 

[Junior_BentsPlatformShoes]

Lower budget is nothing to do with squad size. All teams are allowed the same number in their squads. It’s quality we’re short of , not quantity.

Lower budget = lower quality throughout a squad, I thought that’s apparent. Our first 11 can make a fist of games, after that we’ve not much. Midweek games have knackered the first team players we can’t afford to rest.

 

[Lanc_seasider]

I blamed him at the time for the first goal but when you see the highlights he is back in position so really could do nothing about it. Thought overall he was poor though.

The point is he should have claimed it in the first place. Irrelevant the fact he ended up back in position.

Grimshaw doesn’t come for crosses. But I would much rather a keeper not come at all, then half come. It sends panic throughout the defence. Yes, the goal tonight, the West Brom goal, the Luton goal weren’t a direct result of a mistake from Maxwell, but indirectly he’s 100% at fault. The defence has no idea what he’s doing, he has no idea what he’s doing he was laughable defending corners tonight.

Grimshaw Saturday.

 

[premierdream2010]

I'm sick of saying it on here, Grimmy is better, end of story.

I certainly wouldn't blame tonight's shambles on Maxwell we would have lost if we had either of them in nets because we were garbage all over the park and Boro were a class above us, but the reality is Grimmy is a better keeper.

We would have lost tonight if we had both keepers in the net at the same time. Team ** woefull

 

[Albert Ross]

Lower budget = lower quality throughout a squad, I thought that’s apparent. Our first 11 can make a fist of games, after that we’ve not much. Midweek games have knackered the first team players we can’t afford to rest.

When money is wasted on crocks who only play partial seasons, it makes a small budget even smaller.

 

[Simonized]

The point is he should have claimed it in the first place. Irrelevant the fact he ended up back in position.

Grimshaw doesn’t come for crosses. But I would much rather a keeper not come at all, then half come. It sends panic throughout the defence. Yes, the goal tonight, the West Brom goal, the Luton goal weren’t a direct result of a mistake from Maxwell, but indirectly he’s 100% at fault. The defence has no idea what he’s doing, he has no idea what he’s doing he was laughable defending corners tonight.

Grimshaw Saturday.

☝☝

 

[20togo]

The point is he should have claimed it in the first place. Irrelevant the fact he ended up back in position.

Grimshaw doesn’t come for crosses. But I would much rather a keeper not come at all, then half come. It sends panic throughout the defence. Yes, the goal tonight, the West Brom goal, the Luton goal weren’t a direct result of a mistake from Maxwell, but indirectly he’s 100% at fault. The defence has no idea what he’s doing, he has no idea what he’s doing he was laughable defending corners tonight.

Grimshaw Saturday.

nope, it was not a cross he should have ever come for. He couldn't ever have come and claimed it. Pretty clear on SS if you watch it back. Was always going too high over him. He clearly realised that and got back into position.

 

[Lanc_seasider]

nope, it was not a cross he should have ever come for. He couldn't ever have come and claimed it. Pretty clear on SS if you watch it back. Was always going too high over him. He clearly realised that and got back into position.

Yeah I’ve seen it, was also right behind it in real time. He has to claim that.

 

[20togo]

Yeah I’ve seen it, was also right behind it in real time. He has to claim that.

nope disagree. He could never get near it.

 

[Wilburrabbit]

Ok I know we had injuries but ….
Maxwell was poor and seems to be shrinking
Ward poor but not fit and out of position
Husband slow and no CB
Marv our best defender usually but poor tonight
Thompson still poor but best of a bad bunch
Patino weak and looked a kid in mens game
Dougall some good but a lot of bad tonight
Carey absolute garbage tonight
Theo had our only shot I think but runs down blind alleys.
Madine strangely not up for the fight tonight
Jerry. Useless up front but worked in defence

As a team over the past few games …
We are far too weak in the tackle.
Midfield cannot hold onto the ball.
Defenders can’t distribute the ball to save their lives.
We play like 11 blokes who just met in the tunnel
Our defending at set pieces and corners is awful and showing no sign of improvement
Why is the only option to always pass backwards?

I will be at Wigan but if we play like this again and leave empty handed I fear we need to grasp the nettle and point Mr Appleton to the exit….

 

[rememberlesshannon]

Should marv be dropped too?

For who ?