Season tickets and match prices for next season

18/21 is a key age. No one took me to Bloomfield as a kid. My dad would take me to Fleetwood as I could spend the game having a kick around down the side of the pitch with all the other kids

I was at Uni when a mate invited me to go to a Tuesday night match and we stood on the south stand. I bloody loved it and over the next 2 years got to 4 or 5 games and started to listen on the radio to games.

A couple of years later I moved to Garstang and started to go on my own and then took a mate and then 2 years later could afford my first ST

Point was I’m probably a late starter compared to most of you but at 18/21 I got hooked. 25 years on I’m addicted…..
 
Insider said:
Of course there's the live match TV money. How many times have QPR, Huddersfield, and others been on?
If Sky are going to just show QPR because it's not far to travel then I think a new formula needs looking at.
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Every club receives in the region of 5-6 million then the extra 100k/10k is to compensate any lost ticket sales.
 
Something else that needs covering off is that when you cash in your ST seat for the day to go upstairs or in the heineken lounge, the seat doesn't seem to become available to be resold or handed out? Quite a few seats go empty because of this i think. Should be easily fixable especially when space is at a premium?
 
Mark_GT said:
Something else that needs covering off is that when you cash in your ST seat for the day to go upstairs or in the heineken lounge, the seat doesn't seem to become available to be resold or handed out? Quite a few seats go empty because of this i think. Should be easily fixable especially when space is at a premium?
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I didn't know that, that needs looking at definitely

It would also be a good idea that if a season ticket holder can't go to the match like me not being arsed sometimes that the ticket can be re sold

The season ticket holder would obviously have to tell the club but should be an easy system to set up
 
Philbfctrois said:
I didn't know that, that needs looking at definitely

It would also be a good idea that if a season ticket holder can't go to the match like me not being arsed sometimes that the ticket can be re sold

The season ticket holder would obviously have to tell the club but should be an easy system to set up
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Agreed. Just a case of setting up an email account for non attendees to declare in advance.

How far in advance might be a discussion point.
 
Why 3 years?
What about fans who have held ST for years.

I know for a fact that the Oyston boycott years have been taken into account.

SE corner ( X and Y) should be offered at a discount
 
GrahamwantshisOates said:
Why 3 years?
What about fans who have held ST for years.

I know for a fact that the Oyston boycott years have been taken into account.

SE corner ( X and Y) should be offered at a discount
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Tough titty ...

I've said 3 years as a fresh start after the Oystons
 
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Lytham_fy8 said:
I think it's blanket, might be wrong, if it is blanket then its actively preventing new support.
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It’s always been a thing. If it’s the same as was years ago then it’s not as strict as you think. The purpose is to prevent away fans buying in the home ends, especially online. Birmingham sold their allocation, no previous purchase history in place then they’d have been all in the home end too. There was already a few to many, two sat a few rows behind me with Birmingham City tops on.
 
Mark_GT said:
Something else that needs covering off is that when you cash in your ST seat for the day to go upstairs or in the heineken lounge, the seat doesn't seem to become available to be resold or handed out? Quite a few seats go empty because of this i think. Should be easily fixable especially when space is at a premium?
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As far as I know, as a season ticket holder upgrading to hospitality you get a discount - or use to anyway as you’ve already paid part for the game. Your season ticket seat then use to go back on general sale, so if they’ve removed this element then it’s a little daft - however I can’t see they would do.
 
Wizaard said:
Agreed. Just a case of setting up an email account for non attendees to declare in advance.

How far in advance might be a discussion point.
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Easier system in place that was used in the premier league, ticket exchange system. You would post your ticket for sale on the online ticket system and you’d get 1 20th of the price back. This credit was then used against your season ticket renewal.

Personally, this only works when the stadium is a sell out every week and demand is there. We have plenty of availability for the current demand so can’t see it being utilised.
 
An idea that has not been mentioned here yet, as far as I can see, instead of banding why not go to a point based system.

X points for buying a season ticket and then so many points for away games, so many points for a home game. Tickets released on number of points and those with enough can have 1.

Encourages people to start having tickets assigned correctly, which will also mean more data to the club for marketing etc. Data is like gold to businesses.
 
SeasideSid said:
An idea that has not been mentioned here yet, as far as I can see, instead of banding why not go to a point based system.

X points for buying a season ticket and then so many points for away games, so many points for a home game. Tickets released on number of points and those with enough can have 1.

Encourages people to start having tickets assigned correctly, which will also mean more data to the club for marketing etc. Data is like gold to businesses.
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Data is indeed key to most businesses

However on this i don't think we really need to re invent things

The club has all the data it needs to come up with a sensible idea for away game tickets
 
Wizaard said:
The way the Nobber tickets were allocated is better than banding, IMO.

It's the here and now that counts, and someone going home and away should get first dibs, not someone who has only been to home games for the last decade but fancies a trip just down the road.
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Have you not read the OP mate

I've said that
 
poolseasider said:
I would also like the club to help towards away travel with ST/Membership scheme(not a fiver like the Cods do) for coaches.

Petrol going through the roof and trying to limit car journeys(good for the environment)to some kind of subsidy would help.
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The club not a charity .At away games their are hundreds on the concourses filling their boots with overpriced beer and food at about 4 /5 pound mark .
 
Philbfctrois said:
Data is indeed key to most businesses

However on this i don't think we really need to re invent things

The club has all the data it needs to come up with a sensible idea for away game tickets
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You say not to reinvent things but that’s what is needed… a new approach.

Done correctly the points system works well, something I’ve dealt with and experienced before. Requires a lot less admin work for the club staff compared to what they would have had to have done for Preston, trust me.
 
SeasideSid said:
You say not to reinvent things but that’s what is needed… a new approach.

Done correctly the points system works well, something I’ve dealt with and experienced before. Requires a lot less admin work for the club staff compared to what they would have had to have done for Preston, trust me.
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I'm not saying it wouldn't work and i agree once set up it would probably be easier to manage

Its just the initial set up that will be time consuming and i presume there isn't really an appetite to change things so much
 
SeasideSid said:
It’s always been a thing. If it’s the same as was years ago then it’s not as strict as you think. The purpose is to prevent away fans buying in the home ends, especially online. Birmingham sold their allocation, no previous purchase history in place then they’d have been all in the home end too. There was already a few to many, two sat a few rows behind me with Birmingham City tops on.
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Just do it with a proof of address then?
 
Also for certain matches start doing quid a kid again with a full paying adult I’m sure that would attract a few more especially if all the schools were Informed who could then inform the kids on a school assembly day or summat
 
SeasideSid said:
As far as I know, as a season ticket holder upgrading to hospitality you get a discount - or use to anyway as you’ve already paid part for the game. Your season ticket seat then use to go back on general sale, so if they’ve removed this element then it’s a little daft - however I can’t see they would do.
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I think it may be the this should happen but the system doesn't always pick it up. I'm going to check with the club as it seems a shame to waste the seat and any income opportunity for BFC.
 
michellebutterflyhotel said:
Also for certain matches start doing quid a kid again with a full paying adult I’m sure that would attract a few more especially if all the schools were Informed who could then inform the kids on a school assembly day or summat
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Yep agreed

The family stand is one of the areas of the ground thats never full and you can't put a value on increasing kids ticket sales
 
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Philbfctrois said:
Why would i want to do that the SLO is generally useless
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i've generally found him to be pretty good at putting ideas and points to club on my and other behalf . its what the slo is for . Like He's said before he can't read every thread & post but Putting FAO SLO on the title draws his attention to it so he can action the points being made .
 
Philbfctrois said:
Would like to see them released during the next couple of weeks whilst football is still fresh in the minds

Season ticket prices should be frozen as a minimum with a few new incentives

● 18-21 year old price point at a reduced price - £200 quid or so
● Heineken lounge season ticket price point similar to the West Stand price to try and get a few more lads in the South (maybe use the South East corner)
● East Stand (North) season ticket at a discounted price to due limited facilities
● The ability for people to pay monthly without any price increase
● Longer early bird period

Match day tickets should also be released around the same time and the Category price point to be re thought out to only include local derby games

I would also like to see a membership scheme for those who can't commit to season tickets for a small annual fee, say £20 or so a year that gives discounted match day prices thus getting round the away price anomaly

I think it would also be useful for the club to make a policy on away ticket priority, something along these lines

○ Band A - Season ticket holder for 3 seasons and say 10 away game proof
○ Band B - Away ticket proof of 10 games (non season ticket holders) and Season ticket holders of 3 years with 5 away game proof
○ Band C - All season ticket holders plus any non season ticket holders with 5 games proof

Then general sale as its been a bit of a faff this season with loads of restrictions

Just my opinions but i hope the club are thinking a bit more this season on maximising our stadium capacity as it was all a bit lazy last season with empty seats at virtually every home game

Utp ...
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Well thought out. It's always good to see posts with a lot of thought behind them.
PS. M block season tickets have priority on everything....just saying.
 
michellebutterflyhotel said:
Also for certain matches start doing quid a kid again with a full paying adult I’m sure that would attract a few more especially if all the schools were Informed who could then inform the kids on a school assembly day or summat
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I like the quid a kid idea with a paying adult from time to time it's far better than giving out freebies to kids who just pass them on to anyone.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I'm not saying it wouldn't work and i agree once set up it would probably be easier to manage

Its just the initial set up that will be time consuming and i presume there isn't really an appetite to change things so much
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With the system we have in place, it would take no additional time to set up. It’s done once the games/season tickets go on sale. Very simple and easy for the fans to get to grips with.
 
SeasideSid said:
As far as I know, as a season ticket holder upgrading to hospitality you get a discount - or use to anyway as you’ve already paid part for the game. Your season ticket seat then use to go back on general sale, so if they’ve removed this element then it’s a little daft - however I can’t see they would do.
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It’s only a tenner discount
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
I think it's blanket, might be wrong, if it is blanket then its actively preventing new support.
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It's not, its usually normal purchasing but when teams like brum have sold out or even the derby one, no idea how many they've sold but its previous purchase only.

Makes some sense if they have sold out and will then pile in the home end but also it will limit us.

Stories of the Blackburn game for eg people unable to buy even with history.

Also how far back does this info go?

If big games are previous purchase history only then well never grow fast, as we need bigger games to get new fans interested. Thats the reality, they are far more likely to come for a big game than a lesser game with no previous purchase history needed.

I believe you can easily prove it and set up an account, it should be easy.

As you've said proof of address, I'd should be one simple way.

Ive mentioned it a few times a while back to the slo, but I dont think it was ever clarified where we actually stood and how potentially limiting it may be.

Would be great to find out and make things as easy as possible.

Attendance on Saturday. Selling out fast

Just had a look on ticket planner Blocks A- P around 90 left Block Q - Less than 100 Looking good for sales in South Stand with only block X looking bare. My guess is 13150.
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JJpool said:
It's not, its usually normal purchasing but when teams like brum have sold out or even the derby one, no idea how many they've sold but its previous purchase only.

Makes some sense if they have sold out and will then pile in the home end but also it will limit us.

Stories of the Blackburn game for eg people unable to buy even with history.

Also how far back does this info go?

If big games are previous purchase history only then well never grow fast, as we need bigger games to get new fans interested. Thats the reality, they are far more likely to come for a big game than a lesser game with no previous purchase history needed.

I believe you can easily prove it and set up an account, it should be easy.

As you've said proof of address, I'd should be one simple way.

Ive mentioned it a few times a while back to the slo, but I dont think it was ever clarified where we actually stood and how potentially limiting it may be.

Would be great to find out and make things as easy as possible.

Attendance on Saturday. Selling out fast

Just had a look on ticket planner Blocks A- P around 90 left Block Q - Less than 100 Looking good for sales in South Stand with only block X looking bare. My guess is 13150.
avftt.co.uk
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Yeah, seems like a paradox, to buy tickets you must have previously bought tickets.
 
The reason for the gaps in the west is people buying kids tickets dirt cheap and using them about twice a season. Looks dreadful and personally if records show they’ve not been used other than the PNE game etc then I wouldn’t let them renew the kids tickets. If someone wants to pay full whack and never go fair enough but paying peanuts and depriving the club of selling the seat at its proper value annoys me.
 
Memphisboy said:
The reason for the gaps in the west is people buying kids tickets dirt cheap and using them about twice a season. Looks dreadful and personally if records show they’ve not been used other than the PNE game etc then I wouldn’t let them renew the kids tickets. If someone wants to pay full whack and never go fair enough but paying peanuts and depriving the club of selling the seat at its proper value annoys me.
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Its not peanuts to buy kids tickets, especially in the West
 
Philbfctrois said:
Would like to see them released during the next couple of weeks whilst football is still fresh in the minds

Season ticket prices should be frozen as a minimum with a few new incentives

● 18-21 year old price point at a reduced price - £200 quid or so
● Heineken lounge season ticket price point similar to the West Stand price to try and get a few more lads in the South (maybe use the South East corner)
● East Stand (North) season ticket at a discounted price to due limited facilities
● The ability for people to pay monthly without any price increase
● Longer early bird period

Match day tickets should also be released around the same time and the Category price point to be re thought out to only include local derby games

I would also like to see a membership scheme for those who can't commit to season tickets for a small annual fee, say £20 or so a year that gives discounted match day prices thus getting round the away price anomaly

I think it would also be useful for the club to make a policy on away ticket priority, something along these lines

○ Band A - Season ticket holder for 3 seasons and say 10 away game proof
○ Band B - Away ticket proof of 10 games (non season ticket holders) and Season ticket holders of 3 years with 5 away game proof
○ Band C - All season ticket holders plus any non season ticket holders with 5 games proof

Then general sale as its been a bit of a faff this season with loads of restrictions

Just my opinions but i hope the club are thinking a bit more this season on maximising our stadium capacity as it was all a bit lazy last season with empty seats at virtually every home game

Utp ...
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i agree with nearly all that except the band a being three years as limited to 4k - the 4k lot got their reward with po semi and final tickets which includes me but time to move on from the elitist theme. 2years band a and i agree on all you posted - good ideas tbf
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Yeah, seems like a paradox, to buy tickets you must have previously bought tickets.
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Well thats where the setting up of an account comes in, but what checks are done if any I'm not sure. If so whats to stop a fan of another club doing it.

Surely for a big game let's say, if someone who hasnt been before and shows proof of a local address, they should accept, even if a small risk of it being an away fan.

You only really grow the club in bigger games so we have to be able to get the casuals in and the more they're in the more they become more invested.
 
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