Season tickets and match prices for next season

SpionKop said:
i really hope they are
on sale in time for saturday
priced competitively
certain initiatives (that have been muted on here)

otherwise it’s missed opportunities mate
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Maybe do a break the gate scheme, the more we sell the cheaper the ST becomes. Hit the 10,000 mark and it goes to £195.30 etc. If BFC did that you watch the supporters groups use their social media pages properly then
 
koudo said:
Maybe do a break the gate scheme, the more we sell the cheaper the ST becomes. Hit the 10,000 mark and it goes to £195.30 etc. If BFC did that you watch the supporters groups use their social media pages properly then
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Morecambe apparently did something similar, but I think 195 is pushing it, the club would lose loads.

I'd be very happy with a 299 early bird.
 
koudo said:
Maybe do a break the gate scheme, the more we sell the cheaper the ST becomes. Hit the 10,000 mark and it goes to £195.30 etc. If BFC did that you watch the supporters groups use their social media pages properly then
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I wouldn't know if £195 was feasible but I certainly like your idea Koudo.

I appreciate that it's not an exact science and I wouldn't know the perfect price but I think the aim should be to try and get as many Blackpool supporters in to Bloomers at a price that will generate the highest revenues.

I usually say - perhaps lazily - half the price and get twice as many in, thinking that will get more supporters behind the team and increase matchday revenues but plenty are totally against that and suggest that every fecker just gives up if the team is not doing well and apparently such schemes have not been successful elsewhere, I could be wrong but I think folk usually say that Bradford and Huddersfield tried something along these lines and it didn't work out.
 
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SEASIDE2020 said:
I wouldn't know if £195 was feasible but I certainly like your idea Koudo.

I appreciate that it's not an exact science and I wouldn't know the perfect price but I think the aim should be to try and get as many Blackpool supporters in to Bloomers at a price that will generate the highest revenues.

I usually say - perhaps lazily - half the price and get twice as many in, thinking that will get more supporters behind the team and increase matchday revenues but plenty are totally against that and suggest that every fecker just gives up if the team is not doing well and apparently such schemes have not been successful elsewhere, I could be wrong but I think folk usually say that Bradford and Huddersfield tried something along these lines and it didn't work out.
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It certainly worked for Huddersfield as they got promoted that season
 
Philbfctrois said:
It certainly worked for Huddersfield as they got promoted that season
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No, I don't think their promotion was down to cheap season tickets.

I just seem to remember somebody on here saying that cheap season tickets hadn't worked when tried elsewhere and I think they mentioned Bradford and Huddersfield as examples of where such offers have failed.

I thought Yorkies would like a bargain.
 
I’m not sure cheap season tickets really achieves anything at the moment. I’m as keen as anyone to find a way to develop our fanbase, but some of our fans also need to wake up a bit to the cost of delivering sustainable Championship Football.

We want to demand a Team Challenging for the Play Offs in the Championship, but we want to pay the price of League 2 relegation fodder?? It doesn’t add up I’m afraid.

I’d rather see a properly priced season ticket with payment plan options and perhaps some incentives for those who are struggling financially.
 
Rovers are charging £400 for next season, so with PNE at £280 that's a hell of a difference for the same league and similar towns etc.

I really think we should do a scheme where if you introduce a new season ticket holder, you both get a significant discount. The fans are the biggest marketing tool the club has, and the most underused in a way. That way you guarantee that cheaper prices will result in increased numbers.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m not sure cheap season tickets really achieves anything at the moment. I’m as keen as anyone to find a way to develop our fanbase, but some of our fans also need to wake up a bit to the cost of delivering sustainable Championship Football.

We want to demand a Team Challenging for the Play Offs in the Championship, but we want to pay the price of League 2 relegation fodder?? It doesn’t add up I’m afraid.

I’d rather see a properly priced season ticket with payment plan options and perhaps some incentives for those who are struggling financially.
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Empty seats earn the club nothing and at every home game this season we have had empty ones
 
Philbfctrois said:
Empty seats earn the club nothing and at every home game this season we have had empty ones
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As things stand, there’s not the capacity to merit a cheapo pricing policy. From a purely financial perspective it’s better to price properly.

10,000 regulars at £300 per head (current situation) is way more revenue than 11,500 at £200 or even £250.

Might be worth doing something to try and attract new fans once we have a proper ground, but totally pointless at the minute…

Far better to invest in the squad and attract new fans with performances in any case.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
As things stand, there’s not the capacity to merit a cheapo pricing policy. From a purely financial perspective it’s better to price properly.

10,000 regulars at £300 per head (current situation) is way more revenue than 11,500 at £200 or even £250.

Might be worth doing something to try and attract new fans once we have a proper ground, but totally pointless at the minute…

Far better to invest in the squad and attract new fans with performances in any case.
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The ground holds 16,000 minus 2,000 away fans leaves 14,000

We sold 8,000 season tickets
 
Whatever happened to the twenty is plenty campaign. I think £250/275 is about right for Blackpool then tickets at £20 and £25 on the day.
 
The reality is that I don't believe season ticket demand is elastic. It won't change directly with price.

For the vast majority of fans who want a season ticket it is basically viewed as an essential, rather than a discretionary purchase.

Sure, there is a breaking point for everyone where the price would become too high to afford, but I doubt there are thousands of people on the fylde coast thinking "I'd love a season ticket at Blackpool, but only if they were £50 cheaper!"
 
GeminiPool said:
The reality is that I don't believe season ticket demand is elastic. It won't change directly with price.

For the vast majority of fans who want a season ticket it is basically viewed as an essential, rather than a discretionary purchase.

Sure, there is a breaking point for everyone where the price would become too high to afford, but I doubt there are thousands of people on the fylde coast thinking "I'd love a season ticket at Blackpool, but only if they were £50 cheaper!"
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i think you would be surprised Gem. I agree for the likes of you me and loads on here it is an essential but with Blackpool not being an overly affluent area , price would be a driver for many and could raise our ST count by quite a few tbf if set at an attractive amount.
 
GeminiPool said:
The reality is that I don't believe season ticket demand is elastic. It won't change directly with price.

For the vast majority of fans who want a season ticket it is basically viewed as an essential, rather than a discretionary purchase.

Sure, there is a breaking point for everyone where the price would become too high to afford, but I doubt there are thousands of people on the fylde coast thinking "I'd love a season ticket at Blackpool, but only if they were £50 cheaper!"
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Yeah average st price works out at about £7 a week/year equals roughly two pints in a pub
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It can’t hold any more than 11,500 / 12,000 home fans as things stand and we’re already averaging around 10 -10,500.

Even at 14,000 you wouldn’t want to drop your pants on price tbh. Certainly not over the long term in any case.
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I still think we need a big one off game, at the very least. An actual cheap deal and we prioritise home fans in the East.

We have to have a game where we can measure what effect both the cheap deal and or a big game can go to.

Maybe we'll bottom out at a lower crowd figure than some imagine or maybe we'll be surprised.

But we won't know of we don't try it.

We cant control all of it as for eg we need a cup run and a big home team.

But also an actual cheap deal, not just cat a prices, to see how much price is a factor

For eg if we did 1 game for a tenner like rovers and others have done at times and for their game against Bournemouth.

If we fill the 3 aides and the NE its great data, gets casuals registered so when any big games do come up they are in the previous purchase history and also makes them more likely to come back soon.

I think 299 for a st early bird might be the sweetspot.

If we do keep the cat system I dont want to see as many cat a games, should only be for the sellout derby's, not like Cardiff first game. That didn't capitalise on the feelgood factor. We had just missed out in a sellout playoff game and Wembley 30k which usually gets all the casuals registered and involved.

Hopefully we can at least do some things to grow the fanbase, yes we're limited somewhat, but now is the time to still grow. Even if its just a few hundred or more extra home fans on average
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
10,000 regulars at £300 per head (current situation) is way more revenue than 11,500 at £200 or even £250.

Might be worth doing something to try and attract new fans once we have a proper ground, but totally pointless at the minute…
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Totally agree and whilst we may have sold 8,000 last season if we reduce the price that would effectively mean given up about £400,000 and then wait for the complaints to start when we don't compete with wages for new players.
 
FY16JJ said:
Totally agree and whilst we may have sold 8,000 last season if we reduce the price that would effectively mean given up about £400,000 and then wait for the complaints to start when we don't compete with wages for new players.
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But we also shouldn't do nothing, in one of the poorest areas in the country in a cost of living crisis.

Whilst also up the road at our rivals no matter how desperate they are they are still charging significantly less.

I hope the club has learned, as said cat a for Cardiff home for eg was poor, the very high priced friendlies etc.

I think even with our current capacity there's a balance that could be struck.

299 if we sell 9k makes a similar amount of money. They were about 329 last season for renewals but only 4k could.

We now have the se corner to use and hopefully part of the ne.

We can make it work with better pricing, membership maybe, even of we end up with slightly less cash made, its worth it to have more fans as think of that as an investment in the future.

But we should also try and hook in new fans or part time fans to ST too.

Also make on the day more attractive.
 
BFC_53 said:
Rovers are charging £400 for next season, so with PNE at £280 that's a hell of a difference for the same league and similar towns etc.

I really think we should do a scheme where if you introduce a new season ticket holder, you both get a significant discount. The fans are the biggest marketing tool the club has, and the most underused in a way. That way you guarantee that cheaper prices will result in increased numbers.
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Rovers season tickets now start at 429. 399 was early bird for existing ST holders only.

If we had loads of spare capacity there'd be a case for cheap STs. We don't. Maybe it's an option to use the east just for home fans and put away fans in part or all of the south? Have cheaper STs in the east?
 
Matesrates said:
Rather than reduce season ticket prices, the best way to sell more is to offer a sensible payment plan, certainly more than the current three months through a finance company.
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Its six payments not 3.
Buy agree with the rest also a lot of fans get knocked back with finance so as I posted at the start of this thread the Fleetwood system where you direct debit every month over the years and it only over stops when you cancel your ST is a better way.
 
poolseasider said:
Its six payments not 3.
Buy agree with the rest also a lot of fans get knocked back with finance so as I posted at the start of this thread the Fleetwood system where you direct debit every month over the years and it only over stops when you cancel your ST is a better way.
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Bloody he’ll ps you feel ok?
Not like you giving the Cods some credit. 😮🤣
 
poolseasider said:
Its six payments not 3.
Buy agree with the rest also a lot of fans get knocked back with finance so as I posted at the start of this thread the Fleetwood system where you direct debit every month over the years and it only over stops when you cancel your ST is a better way.
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You could even do a 12 month plan now, starting June. You'd be 3 month in by the season opener (just about this year before anyone picks that up) so zero risk, and none of the finance company nonsense.

Or even do 9 months for 22/23 moving to a 12 month cycle from March 23 - value can be adjusted if ST prices change after mar 23.

Alongside other initiatives, e.g. 5 for £90, 10 for £170 it would cover most issues.
 
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Yep seem a bit slow getting this out.

Was going to ask which clubs have got them on sale in the championship but I'm guessing it's shorter to say who hasn't yet? Our local rivals have, I know that. Many others have, Coventry passed 11k season tickets, saw that.

It's not just us it it of all the clubs with no chance of moving league?
 
I think they will be looking at what other clubs are charging and then charge the average figure .
10,000 x 280 = £2.8 million
8,000 x 350 = £2.8 million
What would you rather have
 
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SpionKop said:
it’s bad form they should have been available a couple of weeks ago.
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Please excuse my ignorance - I know the posters on this thread will know far more than me - but what's the rush for us to pay now ?

I appreciate paying sooner would help the club's cashflow but it wouldn't do anything for mine.

On another note, plenty of folk I know who had a season ticket this season were not particularly happy with how much they paid and won't be renewing if there is a big increase.

Only a small sample I know and maybe I surround myself with too many skint members.
 
BIG_BERTHA said:
I think they will be looking at what other clubs are charging and then charge the average figure .
10,000 x 280 = £2.8 million
8,000 x 350 = £2.8 million
What would you rather have
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Bertha

I've said something along the lines of that in the past.

I'm for getting as many in as possible but plenty knowledgeable folk say that cheap season tickets just do not work, suggesting that folk would just feck it off if we started bad and that the increased matchday revenues from the bigger numbers just don't materialise, as I mentioned above, I'm told such schemes failed at Bradford and Huddersfield.

While I am with you on this, the only thing I would say is that the pricing is not an exact science and the club doesn't know how much demand would increase for a reduction in price, I used to suggest better having 14,000 paying £200 than 7,000 paying £400 but I wasn't to prepared to make the shortfall up out of my Davy Crockett should we only manage to sell 10,000 at £200.
 
BIG_BERTHA said:
I think they will be looking at what other clubs are charging and then charge the average figure .
10,000 x 280 = £2.8 million
8,000 x 350 = £2.8 million
What would you rather have
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That's fine if the price elasticity is at that point and you still have any capacity for those games which will sell out even at the higher price

If for example the home capacity is 11k and you charge £25 match day you can only make £25k extra for ' the big games ' if you have 10k ST's however with 8k ST's you have up to £75k to make each game

The gap could in theory be watered down by the secondary spend but we don't help ourselves there with the poor refreshment provision in the North and West stands and perennial kit shortages in the club shop
 
The delay makes me think the prices are going up and they are thinking of a strategy and communication to make it sound positive.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
That's fine if the price elasticity is at that point and you still have any capacity for those games which will sell out even at the higher price

If for example the home capacity is 11k and you charge £25 match day you can only make £25k extra for ' the big games ' if you have 10k ST's however with 8k ST's you have up to £75k to make each game

The gap could in theory be watered down by the secondary spend but we don't help ourselves there with the poor refreshment provision in the North and West stands and perennial kit shortages in the club shop
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That secondary spend is watered down with how many extra security you have to put on for that extra 2000 and seeing as we're using an agency from Blackburn it won't be as cheap as hiring local.

One bloke I've seen with us but 2 away games also!
 
Tbf to the club I think this season will be difficult pricing wise with everything that's going on with the economy so they are probably having a look around to see what others are charging. I can only speak for myself and we buy 4 St's each year but if there is a steep rise in the prices we will have to really think whether it makes sense and this is coming from someone who has always bought regardless. Hopefully it will be similar to last year or just a slight increase.
 
Larryknows said:
Tbf to the club I think this season will be difficult pricing wise with everything that's going on with the economy so they are probably having a look around to see what others are charging. I can only speak for myself and we buy 4 St's each year but if there is a steep rise in the prices we will have to really think whether it makes sense and this is coming from someone who has always bought regardless. Hopefully it will be similar to last year or just a slight increase.
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I don’t understand price comparisons with other clubs

We are completely unique as a club, a fanbase and a town
 
There are 3 things here.
1. We have about 5000 fans who will buy ST's whatever (unless of course they were ridiculously expensive)
2. Season tickets feel a bit archaic. I get why we have them but to commit to 23 games is a lot for many people especially in a transient population like Blackpool
3. So get season tickets on sale but also look at say a 10 game season ticket to also raise revenues. No specific seat guaranteed but you get to go to 10 games for less than it would cost on a usual match day
 
Poolfan2 said:
There are 3 things here.
1. We have about 5000 fans who will buy ST's whatever (unless of course they were ridiculously expensive)
2. Season tickets feel a bit archaic. I get why we have them but to commit to 23 games is a lot for many people especially in a transient population like Blackpool
3. So get season tickets on sale but also look at say a 10 game season ticket to also raise revenues. No specific seat guaranteed but you get to go to 10 games for less than it would cost on a usual match day
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Then why does every club do them if their archaic?

Guarantees them income before a ball is kicked the ten game option would potentially lose us money and unless it was 10 games consecutive wouldn't work as if you got to pick and choose the lesser game would be poorly attended, nightmare for the club as you'd have to issue a seat for each game or open a sit anywhere stand for them.

Keep season tickets and just have a flat reasonably priced match day price none of this 30 quid nonsense.
 
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Poolfan2 said:
There are 3 things here.
1. We have about 5000 fans who will buy ST's whatever (unless of course they were ridiculously expensive)
2. Season tickets feel a bit archaic. I get why we have them but to commit to 23 games is a lot for many people especially in a transient population like Blackpool
3. So get season tickets on sale but also look at say a 10 game season ticket to also raise revenues. No specific seat guaranteed but you get to go to 10 games for less than it would cost on a usual match day
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The logistics of the pick any 10 games scheme would be a nightmare in a stadium that is relatively close to full, as ours currently is.
 
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