Season tickets and match prices for next season

TwelveAngryMen said:
That's fine if the price elasticity is at that point and you still have any capacity for those games which will sell out even at the higher price

If for example the home capacity is 11k and you charge £25 match day you can only make £25k extra for ' the big games ' if you have 10k ST's however with 8k ST's you have up to £75k to make each game

The gap could in theory be watered down by the secondary spend but we don't help ourselves there with the poor refreshment provision in the North and West stands and perennial kit shortages in the club shop
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There's no secondary spend if it's that cheap people don't bother going at all. Counter intuitively, a slightly higher price would likely see those people attending to justify the spend to themselves.

Regarding secondary spend, I'm still not in the habit yet. That season of going without spending anything in the ground has stuck with me. I spend at the Armfield before the game instead. Pints and a pie.
 
Poolfan2 said:
There are 3 things here.
1. We have about 5000 fans who will buy ST's whatever (unless of course they were ridiculously expensive)
2. Season tickets feel a bit archaic. I get why we have them but to commit to 23 games is a lot for many people especially in a transient population like Blackpool
3. So get season tickets on sale but also look at say a 10 game season ticket to also raise revenues. No specific seat guaranteed but you get to go to 10 games for less than it would cost on a usual match day
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It surely needs a membership scheme?

Or 25 quid a game but you get every 5th game free. Like Cafe Nero. 👍
 
With today’s news form the Bank of England, saying basically that disposable income is going to get much worse later this year, if you haven’t got the cash ready and waiting, some might well decide to just pick and choose. Hopefully the club will come up with a sensible payment plan
 
Whatever they come up with it needs to be pretty damn quick, unless they think our fans are so affluent they have £800/ £1200 lying about just waiting to be spent on 2/3 STs. If the cost of living keeps on rising and they don’t release some figures soon I can see a good few deciding to keep the money in their pockets and pick and choose.
 
GeminiPool said:
The reality is that I don't believe season ticket demand is elastic. It won't change directly with price.

For the vast majority of fans who want a season ticket it is basically viewed as an essential, rather than a discretionary purchase.

Sure, there is a breaking point for everyone where the price would become too high to afford, but I doubt there are thousands of people on the fylde coast thinking "I'd love a season ticket at Blackpool, but only if they were £50 cheaper!"
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Absolutely right about the price inelasticity. However, there does come a breaking point. Blackpool and its immediate neighbours is a place of relative poverty. Those who buy season tickets are not in the poverty cohort but some will be in the 'just managing' sector. An ambitious rise in season ticket prices - even with the best of intentions for the use of the revenue - will start to exclude some fans and lead to a social class narrowing of those with season tickets. Given Simon Sadler's declared aim of Blackpool being a community club, I can't see this being a desired approach.

Unfortunately, it might mean that the L,M,N block prices bear the brunt of the price increases..
which does me no favours.
 
Wizaard said:
There's no secondary spend if it's that cheap people don't bother going at all. Counter intuitively, a slightly higher price would likely see those people attending to justify the spend to themselves.

Regarding secondary spend, I'm still not in the habit yet. That season of going without spending anything in the ground has stuck with me. I spend at the Armfield before the game instead. Pints and a pie.
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The largest influencer on attendance at football matches by the non-season ticket fans is performance & results (together). That cannot be factored in before the season starts so season ticket prices have to be determined by other factors: the previous season's performance, the wider economy, local economy and employment. The price inelasticity factor is never 100% of season ticket holders.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Absolutely right about the price inelasticity. However, there does come a breaking point. Blackpool and its immediate neighbours is a place of relative poverty. Those who buy season tickets are not in the poverty cohort but some will be in the 'just managing' sector. An ambitious rise in season ticket prices - even with the best of intentions for the use of the revenue - will start to exclude some fans and lead to a social class narrowing of those with season tickets. Given Simon Sadler's declared aim of Blackpool being a community club, I can't see this being a desired approach.

Unfortunately, it might mean that the L,M,N block prices bear the brunt of the price increases..
which does me no favours.
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Absolutely. I'm somewhere inbetween myself. I can afford it now, I would still buy with a modest increase, but the coming economic issues could well change that by the time we are talking about next season; or the one after.

The key in terms of allowing those who are less well off to be able to afford a season ticket is spreading the cost effectively: as others have already said.

Pilley's (as much as I loathe the man) scheme is almost the perfect one for the disadvantaged. Cost is spread over the maximum period and no interest is charged (at least on the face of it, I'm sure he has something happening to his advantage behind the scenes) so you avoid exploiting those who can least afford it.
 
Did none of the inner circle bring this up last night or are we going to have to wait for the next meeting?
Personally I find it ludicrous no announcements have been made.
 
PoolWarrior said:
Did none of the inner circle bring this up last night or are we going to have to wait for the next meeting?
Personally I find it ludicrous no announcements have been made.
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Structured dialogue meeting on the 12th at the club. Must be mentioned then
 
Philbfctrois said:
We have it all on this thread, loads of sensible debate and good ideas

All the trust and SLO need to do is sell the club this thread

It really isn't rocket science

Just some fresh ideas to get more home fans into games
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I bet the club is wishing it had released them earlier now, we were on a high a few weeks back after the Birmingham game or around that time.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Absolutely right about the price inelasticity. However, there does come a breaking point. Blackpool and its immediate neighbours is a place of relative poverty. Those who buy season tickets are not in the poverty cohort but some will be in the 'just managing' sector. An ambitious rise in season ticket prices - even with the best of intentions for the use of the revenue - will start to exclude some fans and lead to a social class narrowing of those with season tickets. Given Simon Sadler's declared aim of Blackpool being a community club, I can't see this being a desired approach.

Unfortunately, it might mean that the L,M,N block prices bear the brunt of the price increases..
which does me no favours.
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I for one will struggle with any increase in block M. I’m hoping for an extended payment option
 
Philbfctrois said:
We have it all on this thread, loads of sensible debate and good ideas

All the trust and SLO need to do is sell the club this thread

It really isn't rocket science

Just some fresh ideas to get more home fans into games
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Totally agree and the club really should have sorted the pricing out before now...I think they will have lost a few season tix next season because of the delay. The likes of Phil, Wizaard, Athers and myself would renew whatever but there are plenty of floaters and ditherers who may not bother now.
 
Yeah I agree people switch off at the end of the season and will not want to think about laying a wedge out especially after these last 2 games
 
Many would have used the recent home games to sign up - especially the demographic that doesn't use etickets.

And as ive said above, payments plans should already be in place but it'd be ludicrous to not have them with a June 1st start date.
 
The simplest and most cost effective way I see it is if a few friends get together and buy a season ticket between them and then get together and decide which games they’ll watch throughout the season.
 
Halifax71 said:
Many would have used the recent home games to sign up - especially the demographic that doesn't use etickets.

And as ive said above, payments plans should already be in place but it'd be ludicrous to not have them with a June 1st start date.
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It does feel as if the board are above criticism by some on here but the timing of the ST's has been appalling. I genuinely believe the last few games has lost that nice 'feel good' emotion which would have had some waverers buying a ST if they'd bee released earlier.
 
Poolfan2 said:
It does feel as if the board are above criticism by some on here but the timing of the ST's has been appalling. I genuinely believe the last few games has lost that nice 'feel good' emotion which would have had some waverers buying a ST if they'd bee released earlier.
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So what is from now the best strategy?

We need them on sale as soon as but need also a bit of time for people to forget the crap end of season.

If it is indeed ready as suggested I'd get the training ground announcement out first, Monday.

The release ST details on Tuesday?
 
GeminiPool said:
Absolutely. I'm somewhere inbetween myself. I can afford it now, I would still buy with a modest increase, but the coming economic issues could well change that by the time we are talking about next season; or the one after.

The key in terms of allowing those who are less well off to be able to afford a season ticket is spreading the cost effectively: as others have already said.

Pilley's (as much as I loathe the man) scheme is almost the perfect one for the disadvantaged. Cost is spread over the maximum period and no interest is charged (at least on the face of it, I'm sure he has something happening to his advantage behind the scenes) so you avoid exploiting those who can least afford it.
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It probably makes a difference that AP is 'of the community', living locally and not originally 'from the community'.
 
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