....so the UK government is actually doing the poor refugees a favourAnd there's never been a higher rate of covid in the populace, the health service has the highest waiting lists its ever had and there's never been as many going to food banks. So yes, you need to look at the facts.
Maybe stop the benefits for having kids for UK nationals as well then if we're so crowded?If they stopped the free benefits nhs and housing that would deter the illegals from leaving the safety of France and coming here.The human right lawyers will be making thousands with all the court cases to come.
So no one gets any benefits or housing in France? To be honest, they don't here either, as you need two years residence to claim.If they stopped the free benefits nhs and housing that would deter the illegals from leaving the safety of France and coming here.The human right lawyers will be making thousands with all the court cases to come.
Not a bad shoutMaybe stop the benefits for having kids for UK nationals as well then if we're so crowded?
I think it was on the news at lunchtime that the Rwandans have a reception centre for 100.Has anyone seen the numbers that could be sent to Rwanda?
Takes a racist to bring the colour of someone’s skin into it.Unless the white indigenous population start having lots more babies we need more brown people to come here and plug holes in the demographic time bomb. Those brown skinned people can work and pay taxes, so the white indigenous people can retire. Failure to plug this gap means working till the day you die. We also need to keep up with tax revenue to expand on our world beating transport, education and public services.
£120 million for 100. Yet a large proportion of the population is struggling to feed themselves and heat their homes.I think it was on the news at lunchtime that the Rwandans have a reception centre for 100.
While the illegals are waiting to be processed they get free hotels and living allowance costing £4 million pounds a day and counting plus dentists and hospitalsSo no one gets any benefits or housing in France? To be honest, they don't here either, as you need two years residence to claim.
£120 million for 100. Yet a large proportion of the population is struggling to feed themselves and heat their homes.
Dog whistle politics
A lot of expat work in Rwanda.Exactly this, it’s on the up as a country, what’s wrong with Rwanda ?
France won’t take them back.Perhaps I’am missing something here but would it just not be easier sending them back to France on a one way ticket?
So we’re going to be paying millions to be rid of people who have come here illegally in the first place?France won’t take them back.
This is a deal that‘s economically viable for Rwanda apparently.
Yet so many of you still vote tory! After more than a.decade of them we don't have enough schools and hospitals, the transport system is 2nd rate and green spaces are being covered in souless housing estates.schools, hospitals all at breaking point, brilliant let’s just give them all the green belt while we’re at it.
Yep and the World Cup starts.Is everyone all of a sudden not bothered about borders and sovereignty again, or at least until the tea time news comes on and we’re back on Ukraine.
You do know we spend £2 billion a week on pensions? £4 million is chicken feed in the scheme of things.While the illegals are waiting to be processed they get free hotels and living allowance costing £4 million pounds a day and counting plus dentists and hospitals
I was taking a leaf out of your bookTakes a racist to bring the colour of someone’s skin into it.
Perhaps there should be a ban on families having more than one child. We could start with those on benefits then move on to those who don't speak English as a first language. Oops, sorry, you did say 'end of' as in, I refuse to tolerate any further discussion on the matter.This country is overcrowded, end of.
Don't follow your post Dollar. Possibly because I'm still laughing at the suggestion that the UK has a larger population than Pakistan.The tears from the cheeks of Left Wing Mard Arse's is 4 billion litres a day, so they're in profit.
I’m quite prepared to discuss the matter in a sensible way fy8 refuses to do this as he is just a disagreeable sod who makes statements without any attempt to justify them. I will debate any subject sensibly with any sensible poster, if at the end we both still have opposite views, then so be it we will just agree to disagree.Perhaps there should be a ban on families having more than one child. We could start with those on benefits then move on to those who don't speak English as a first language. Oops, sorry, you did say 'end of' as in, I refuse to tolerate any further discussion on the matter.
Steady on, they eat their children and things. It's a disgrace. This bloke down the Dog and Duck, well he says....(cont. page 94).Unless the white indigenous population start having lots more babies we need more brown people to come here and plug holes in the demographic time bomb. Those brown skinned people can work and pay taxes, so the white indigenous people can retire. Failure to plug this gap means working till the day you die. We also need to keep up with tax revenue to expand on our world beating transport, education and public services.
We can’t be paying all that money to house and feed them, they aren’t entitled to any benefits. They must have someone back home sending them money to pay for accommodation and living expenses.£5 million a day to house illegal immigrants in hotels in this country courtesy of the British tax payer. Are we not paying enough already, there’s several threads on here how unhappy everyone is about it. Yet some seem happy to pay more.
They don’t eat their children, but some of them murder their children for falling in love with the “wrong” person, very civilised.Steady on, they eat their children and things. It's a disgrace. This bloke down the Dog and Duck, well he says....(cont. page 94).
You mean Pensioners who have all contributed for decades for a future pension?You do know we spend £2 billion a week on pensions? £4 million is chicken feed in the scheme of things.
Just beat me to it Jaffa, I was about to say I worked for 52 years for my pension and didn’t claim a single benefit during that whole time. I think I’m entitled to my pension. If anyone else works and contributes for an equal time they can have the same, and welcome.You mean Pensioners who have all contributed for decades for a future pension?
Remind me what these people have contributed?
Er nothing.
'some of them'. Who would they be then?They don’t eat their children, but some of them murder their children for falling in love with the “wrong” person, very civilised.
Just like people are entitled to benefits - it's the law.Just beat me to it Jaffa, I was about to say I worked for 52 years for my pension and didn’t claim a single benefit during that whole time. I think I’m entitled to my pension. If anyone else works and contributes for an equal time they can have the same, and welcome.
They ones who have been convicted in a court of law for so called “honour” killings. And don’t tell me you didn’t know that.'some of them'. Who would they be then?
If they work for them.Just like people are entitled to benefits - it's the law.
Sorry, you gave me the impression that 'they' meant a particular group in society. You did say 'some of them'. So, I ask again, if you are saying that people who commit honour killings comprise part of a group who should not be entitle to live in this country, what is that group? Who do you mean by 'them.'They ones who have been convicted in a court of law for so called “honour” killings. And don’t tell me you didn’t know that.
Child benefit is not work dependent. DLA is not work dependent. Neither is Carer's Allowance or Attendance Allowance or, indeed, many other benefits.If they work for them.
By some of them I meant , as you know, some immigrants, mainly from the sub-continent. That’s not to say some British born haven’t killed children, because we both know they have. It’s more prevalent in the group I have mentioned for religious reasons in a so called peaceful religion.Sorry, you gave me the impression that 'they' meant a particular group in society. You did say 'some of them'. So, I ask again, if you are saying that people who commit honour killings comprise part of a group who should not be entitle to live in this country, what is that group? Who do you mean by 'them.'
That is the same thing.I never said the UK had a bigger population than Pakistan, I said the UK was more populated than Pakistan.
There lies the problem, there are too many benefits a) at all and b) that are not work dependant.Child benefit is not work dependent. DLA is not work dependent. Neither is Carer's Allowance or Attendance Allowance or, indeed, many other benefits.
We can‘t even afford the pensions either. Hence the continual rise in retirement age.You mean Pensioners who have all contributed for decades for a future pension?
Remind me what these people have contributed?
Er diddly squat.
So, who should not be entitled to live in the UK, people who commit honour killings or people in general from the sub-continent because - in your opinion - as an ethnic group they have a greater proclivity for honour killings than do indigenous citizens of the UK?By some of them I meant , as you know, some immigrants, mainly from the sub-continent. That’s not to say some British born haven’t killed children, because we both know they have. It’s more prevalent in the group I have mentioned for religious reasons in a so called peaceful religion.
So the only benefits that should be available are those that are work related, such as Universal Credit. Is that your point?There lies the problem, there are too many benefits a) at all and b) that are not work dependant.
There is a big difference between size and density of population .That is the same thing.
You are just nit picking now. You know that your question doesn’t have an answer, until someone, anyone commits a crime they are all innocent. It’s a matter of record that some people from the group I have mentioned have committed the crime I have mentioned and been convicted of same.So, who should not be entitled to live in the UK, people who commit honour killings or people in general from the sub-continent because - in your opinion - as an ethnic group they have a greater proclivity for honour killings than do indigenous citizens of the UK?
My point is there are a shole range of benefits that encourage people either not to work, or to fo as little as possible. Don’t ask me which I am not going into specifics, you know how wide ranging the system is. Let’s put it this way, the whole benefits system in this country is geared in such a way that those who pay least into it get the most out of it.So the only benefits that should be available are those that are work related, such as Universal Credit. Is that your point?
I appreciate he worded it badly, but you and I both know what he meant.Yes there is a difference between size and density of population. However, the expression 'more populated' does not express anything about population density.
I think you're referring to the tax system, whereby the very rich receive the greatest benefit by paying , proportionately, the least into it.My point is there are a shole range of benefits that encourage people either not to work, or to fo as little as possible. Don’t ask me which I am not going into specifics, you know how wide ranging the system is. Let’s put it this way, the whole benefits system in this country is geared in such a way that those who pay least into it get the most out of it.
I honestly didn't. I can't be expected to interpret someone's statements in a way that is different to what they write.I appreciate he worded it badly, but you and I both know what he meant.
No, I am referring to the whole system. The one I contributed to for, as I said 52 years, and no I am not and never have been very rich. But now I am retired, I receive my pension and free prescriptions and thats it. I know several people who have rarely, some never, worked in their lives yet they get a pension + top ups , free dental treatment including dentures if required, spectacles, when needed, help with rent, council tax, need I go on. All those extras mentioned I have to pay for because I was foolish enough to work for a living. And now you expect me to welcome with open arms anyone else from anywhere else and keep them as well, no thanks. I will add, when I say keep them as well that’s because I contribute to their upkeep as at 80 years of age I stll pay income tax on my meagre pension. Goodnight.I think you're referring to the tax system, whereby the very rich receive the greatest benefit by paying , proportionately, the least into it.