Sending asylum seekers to Rwanda

Shall we have a thread on the EU sending asylum seekers back to Libya 🇱🇾, oh wait they are allowed to infringe on peoples human rights, it’s just the UK that’s racist.
 
Scaramanga said:
Shall we have a thread on the EU sending asylum seekers back to Libya 🇱🇾, oh wait they are allowed to infringe on peoples human rights, it’s just the UK that’s racist.
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3 points -
1) Italy (?) ARE being slated by humanitarian groups for sending back immigrants from Libya, so it’s not really just the UK’s policy that’s being questioned.
2) Those immigrants are being sent back to the country they had just left, not being sold to a 3rd party country, so a different situation to our policy.
3) Just my own POV, but I look at it from a humanitarian angle, not a racist one.
 
That’s great, so as I said, it’s ok for one country to do it but not another. You are basically saying just because some are saying the EU are wrong that It’s ok. They are still doing it. If it’s wrong then it’s wrong and should be pulled up wherever it happens. Horses for courses.
 
Scaramanga said:
Shall we have a thread on the EU sending asylum seekers back to Libya 🇱🇾, oh wait they are allowed to infringe on peoples human rights, it’s just the UK that’s racist.
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Just to let you know that all the countries in the EU are sovereign states so can decide their own policies on a asylum seekers as we could when we were in the EU.
 
Scaramanga said:
That’s great, so as I said, it’s ok for one country to do it but not another. You are basically saying just because some are saying the EU are wrong that It’s ok. They are still doing it. If it’s wrong then it’s wrong and should be pulled up wherever it happens. Horses for courses.
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I’m not sure I’m getting your point, Scara. Whether either is right or wrong boils down to personal opinion, as far as I’m concerned they are both wrong. My point was that both are getting called out by the same humanitarian charities, so who are saying ‘it’s ok for the EU to do it but not the UK’?
It’s obvious that we, as UK citizens, are more likely to be debating our own policy, than Italy’s, and again I’d point out that there’s a major difference between sending illegal immigrants back to their country of origin as opposed to selling them on to a 3rd party country.
Anyway, just my opinion, I had no intention of getting into an argument.
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Johnno said:
I’m not sure I’m getting your point, Scara. Whether either is right or wrong boils down to personal opinion, as far as I’m concerned they are both wrong. My point was that both are getting called out by the same humanitarian charities, so who are saying ‘it’s ok for the EU to do it but not the UK’?
It’s obvious that we, as UK citizens, are more likely to be debating our own policy, than Italy’s, and again I’d point out that there’s a major difference between sending illegal immigrants back to their country of origin as opposed to selling them on to a 3rd party country.
Anyway, just my opinion, I had no intention of getting into an argument.
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Merely pointing out that some have blinkers on (not you), and they are so one sided and turn a blind eye to others. Hypocrisy, and it boils my piss.
 
glasshalffull said:
Only if it is seen as a deterrent, which would mean at least sending some I suppose?
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The people who are coming here face a significant risk of drowning. A 0.5% chance of being sent to Rwanda will make no difference whatsoever.
Red meat tossed to the frothers, it's very, very cynical. And as I said before, expect it to be kicked into the long grass when everyone has forgotten about it.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
The people who are coming here face a significant risk of drowning. A 0.5% chance of being sent to Rwanda will make no difference whatsoever.
Red meat tossed to the frothers, it's very, very cynical. And as I said before, expect it to be kicked into the long grass when everyone has forgotten about it.
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Certainly agree with most of what you say on this, but I do think if they can get it all passed then we will start to see this happen, maybe only to a limited extent, but with lots of publicity.
 
Always tangerine said:
So you pretend youre trying to stop the "evil people traffickers by intoducing a cruel policy of your own, as the Uk government.
So is this a West Ham policy ?

www.thelondoneconomic.com

Karren Brady says Priti Patel deserves praise for her Rwanda asylum deal

New figures reveal just 172 of the 8,953 migrants who have made the crossing will be deported to Rwanda at a cost of £1 million per person.
www.thelondoneconomic.com www.thelondoneconomic.com
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That piece of scum should be ignored. Stick to your top shelf trash Brady.
 
They will get it passed and they will use it sufficiently often to make it something else to think about and as the link below shows trying to stop people making dangerous crossings across waters is not a uniquely UK issue.

Logistically it will be a piece of piss for the armed forces who will be responsible for its implementation.

Libya is interesting, 4000+ people seeking to go to Europe have been intercepted and brought back to Libya and held in detention centres this year alone. Centres which are funded by the EU. https://ec.europa.eu/trustfundforafrica/region/north-africa/libya

Our scheme is no worse than this and potentially a little better if we get the conditions right in Rwanda; unlike Libya, where there are widespread concerns about the state of them.

Anyway for anyone wanting to look at global comparisons this website is a must

reliefweb.int

ReliefWeb - Informing humanitarians worldwide

The leading humanitarian information source on global crises and disasters. Reliable and timely information from trusted sources.
reliefweb.int reliefweb.int
 
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