Simon and Ben on transfers.

Can’t people just take what the current board and owner say at face value or are people automatically cynical towards owners after years of Oyston abuse?

Well look guys we are ok now - we’ve got a new owner and he has the best interests of the club at heart the pain is over

Ffs this tearing apart of every statement the club makes is tedious
 
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Can’t people just take what the current board and owner say at face value or are people automatically cynical towards owners after years of Oyston abuse ?

Well look guys we are ok now - we’ve got a new owner and he has the best interests at heart the pain is over

Ffs this tearing apart of every statement the club makes is tedious
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Think there's definitely an element of deep-rooted mistrust under the surface for some.

Also it was an easy place to put the anger and let off some steam against the O's. When SS came in and even now it's not well received to criticise him, so Mansford was the target, despite doing the deals under SS structure.

Maybe we need to hire a club fall guy, one who can come and take all the flak and any anger and frustration, we can put him in a chair over water and throw balls at the target to drop him in.....

Saying all that I can understand some fans mistrust.

I was at the club after the game on Sat and took a wrong turn, ended up in some offices. Anyway I went in the door labelled Sadlers den, there was a wig on the floor and a rubber face mask with his face on it.

Behind the desk I saw this....




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Looks like we've been had 👎

Heard him on the phone to someone presumably in the US 😯 discussing how much he really bought the club for.....

"One million dollars"

Hes got big plans for us, big plans indeed.
 
AngelBFC said:
Can’t people just take what the current board and owner say at face value or are people automatically cynical towards owners after years of Oyston abuse ?

Well look guys we are ok now - we’ve got a new owner and he has the best interests at heart the pain is over

Ffs this tearing apart of every statement the club makes is tedious
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Exactly. They're criticised for not saying anything, so come out and make a statement and then are accused of telling lies, in effect. Taking them at face value is gullible apparently.
 
Philbfctrois said:
There you go again taking everything at face value it's no wonder you stuck with the Oystons for so long

As for Oxford I would say they are probably one of the favourites for promotion and if CB also thinks that it's no wonder he's stayed especially if we couldn't or wouldn't match his wage demands
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Robinson says he would have been paid more with us, but took the easy route and stayed according to Sean McGinley. As I was saying, no.ambition.
 
They’ll never please a lot of folk and I’m not sure there’s any point worrying about it.

I’m sure there’s plenty of stuff the Club could do better and I’d expect they’ll get better over time.

Personally I’m more concerned with where we are in 3-5 years time than I am with how we perform in a single transfer window. Progress is rarely linear and we’re going to experience bumps in the road….

From what I can see we se to be doing all the things I’d expect a well run club to do. That’s all I’m concerned with at the minute…. I’m realistic about the practicalities of developing a squad with limited resources.
 
Wizaard said:
Robinson says he would have been paid more with us, but took the easy route and stayed according to Sean McGinley. As I was saying, no.ambition.
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He was evidently very happy there… I can imagine his wife was probably in his ear hole all the way up the motorway “You dare make me and the kids move 200 miles away to bloody Blackpool and that’s it”

I think fans sometimes disregard the wider impact of a move, when you are settled in an area.

He’s comfortable there, he’s well thought of in his team, will have a settled home life and a social life locally….

Personally I can understand why he wouldn’t want to move.
 
hertfordseasider said:
We understand why Simms went to Sunderland, but Colby and Brannagan got better offers from clubs in the league below us and they washed over that saying bigger clubs had beaten them to it. Pompy & Oxford bigger clubs????
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Woah Voy, you've been trying to use my message to try and prove your point and I've been out working all day so have only seen your comments.

What I said above is it, nothing more and if we take Simms, he chose Sunderland because they are a massive club even though we matched terms, totally understandable.
Bishop may or may not have failed a medical, but at the end of the day he ended up at Ipswich, a league below us and not a bigger club, so we were about to sign him and hey presto he's bak up the M6 on his way to Ipswich. I would say we fucked him about and could have lost him both opportunities by knocking him back, we don't know what the real reasons were but it was a total fuck up.

Brannagan was definitely because he was offered more money back at Oxford, a much smaller club than us but who really wanted him. It just shows money talks and had we offered the same he would have been playing in Tangerine on Saturday.

I've just re-read the article/statement and for me it is really defensive and it just isn't uplifting at all, it's a bit, we'll do what we can but don't expect much on the signings front because we have small amounts of money only. I don't read it and think woohoo, that's exciting, I thought, meh, whupdedo, thanks for that.

I'm not expecting them to pay big transfer fees, a million for us to spend is a big fee and we are making those offers, but we need to start landing some of these players and FFS don't buy players just for the sake of it. I think they should have just kept schtum instead of a statement like that.

We are going to be recovering from what the stains did to our club for a long time and the training ground, East Stand, community pitches, money on the infrastructure is massive and they are doing that, but we are supporters and we want to see the best players we can get play in Tangerine, it's human nature and the disappointment of not landing some players is disappointing.

At the end of the day, maybe I'm more scarred by what has gone before in the previous 50 years, because I am just being cautious/paranoid (delete as appropriate) about what we have and It's going to take some time before I am fully satisfied and I think that's a good stance to take. it doesn't make me right, it's just my opinion, but it's a valid argument and it doesn't bring into question my love for the club, I'm not a nobber and whatever other terms have been thrown about. Be glad people like me, Phil, Mac & AK are keeping the balance. We're all Pool fans, we all want what's best for the club but we don't all think the same debate it but let's not get all precious about it.
 
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He was evidently very happy there… I can imagine his wife was probably in his ear hole all the way up the motorway “You dare make me and the kids move 200 miles away to bloody Blackpool and that’s it”

I think fans sometimes disregard the wider impact of a move, when you are settled in an area.

He’s comfortable there, he’s well thought of in his team, will have a settled home life and a social life locally….

Personally I can understand why he wouldn’t want to move.
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I see that but if all footballers were the same no one would move anywhere. It's a transient lifestyle, and frankly she may have been like that but had we been offering £14k a week and Oxford £10k she would have been in his ear going on about upgrading the pond to a swimming pool!!
 
hertfordseasider said:
Woah Voy, you've been trying to use my message to try and prove your point and I've been out working all day so have only seen your comments.

What I said above is it, nothing more and if we take Simms, he chose Sunderland because they are a massive club even though we matched terms, totally understandable.
Bishop may or may not have failed a medical, but at the end of the day he ended up at Ipswich, a league below us and not a bigger club, so we were about to sign him and hey presto he's bak up the M6 on his way to Ipswich. I would say we fucked him about and could have lost him both opportunities by knocking him back, we don't know what the real reasons were but it was a total fuck up.

Brannagan was definitely because he was offered more money back at Oxford, a much smaller club than us but who really wanted him. It just shows money talks and had we offered the same he would have been playing in Tangerine on Saturday.

I've just re-read the article/statement and for me it is really defensive and it just isn't uplifting at all, it's a bit, we'll do what we can but don't expect much on the signings front because we have small amounts of money only. I don't read it and think woohoo, that's exciting, I thought, meh, whupdedo, thanks for that.

I'm not expecting them to pay big transfer fees, a million for us to spend is a big fee and we are making those offers, but we need to start landing some of these players and FFS don't buy players just for the sake of it. I think they should have just kept schtum instead of a statement like that.

We are going to be recovering from what the stains did to our club for a long time and the training ground, East Stand, community pitches, money on the infrastructure is massive and they are doing that, but we are supporters and we want to see the best players we can get play in Tangerine, it's human nature and the disappointment of not landing some players is disappointing.

At the end of the day, maybe I'm more scarred by what has gone before in the previous 50 years, because I am just being cautious/paranoid (delete as appropriate) about what we have and It's going to take some time before I am fully satisfied and I think that's a good stance to take. it doesn't make me right, it's just my opinion, but it's a valid argument and it doesn't bring into question my love for the club, I'm not a robber and whatever other terms have been thrown about. Be glad people like me, Phil, Mac & AK are keeping the balance. We're all Pool fans, we all want what's best for the club but we don't all think the same debate it but let's not get all precious about it.
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Robinson says he was definitely offered more money at Blackpool than Oxford but you can't buy happiness.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Personally I’m more concerned with where we are in 3-5 years time than I am with how we perform in a single transfer window. Progress is rarely linear and we’re going to experience bumps in the road….
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The 2 aren't unrelated.

It is a shame that targets have become public in one way because the criticism would be more general and hard to pin had they not been.

For me, once you have your targets and it goes so far then we should be landing them. Someone is paid quite a bit of money to ensure these things happen.

Longer term, as in capital investments in the TG etc, I think we should know what the plan is here in terms of cost and who is paying. I have seen it said that it will be a loan to BFC, which brings obvious questions and possible worries. I genuinely think people underestimate the potential debt.

So, the interview doesn't really tell us anything.
 
Philbfctrois said:
And you believe that

Talk about gullible
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Whereas everything you hear is a lie. Conspiracy theorists dream. Prove that it isn't, seeing as you accuse everyone else of having no facts.

By the way, Ladbrokes have Oxford in the League One odds as 12th. Favourites for promotion my arse.

Or do you not believe that either? 😉
 
hertfordseasider said:
I see that but if all footballers were the same no one would move anywhere. It's a transient lifestyle, and frankly she may have been like that but had we been offering £14k a week and Oxford £10k she would have been in his ear going on about upgrading the pond to a swimming pool!!
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I get the impression that the Oxford money was actually not as much as we offered. So I’m not sure we can really blame the club or question our ambition, it’s just a case that this particular player was very happy where he was and the pull of a higher league and better wage just wasn’t enough.

That’s not always going to be the case, in fact in football it’s probably quite unusual, but it is what it is.

If we struggle to accept that and prefer to create a different narrative that justifies us to point a finger of blame, then that’s fine…

But to my mind I can’t see that the criticism is justified at all. It’s just frustration needing to be vented.
 
Wizaard said:
Whereas everything you hear is a lie. Conspiracy theorists dream.

By the way, Ladbrokes have Oxford in the League One odds as 12th. Favourites for promotion my arse.

Or do you not believe that either? 😉
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I said I have them as one of the favourites, I haven’t once mentioned the bookies
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I get the impression that the Oxford money was actually not as much as we offered. So I’m not sure we can really blame the club or question our ambition, it’s just a case that this particular player was very happy where he was and the pull of a higher league and better wage just wasn’t enough.

That’s not always going to be the case, in fact in football it’s probably quite unusual, but it is what it is.

If we struggle to accept that and prefer to create a different narrative that justifies us to point a finger of blame, then that’s fine…

But to my mind I can’t see that the criticism is justified at all. It’s just frustration needing to be vented.
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In that case, let's hope Josh puts pen to paper on a new 4 year deal with us!!! 😉

There was a lot of info saying he was offered more at Oxford, if he wasn't then he did what he thought was right for his family, I just don't know what's true or not. We aren't privy to any of the figures so we're all speculating I guess.
 
fcblackpool said:
The 2 aren't unrelated.

It is a shame that targets have become public in one way because the criticism would be more general and hard to pin had they not been.

For me, once you have your targets and it goes so far then we should be landing them. Someone is paid quite a bit of money to ensure these things happen.

Longer term, as in capital investments in the TG etc, I think we should know what the plan is here in terms of cost and who is paying. I have seen it said that it will be a loan to BFC, which brings obvious questions and possible worries. I genuinely think people underestimate the potential debt.

So, the interview doesn't really tell us anything.
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No they’re not unrelated, but as I’ve said, I’m relaxed about things not always going to plan… In fact I’ll go further and say that it’s inevitable that there will be times when things just don’t go for us….

It’s what happens over the longer term that matters and we’ll have some shit transfer windows and sone where everything just goes right….

As I’ve been at pains to say over and over… There’s the real world and then there’s the theoretical world.
 
The thing is though, we really don’t know what has gone on regards these targets that haven’t materialised. I get it, that we have some very passionate supporters that want the very best for our club, but that comes at a cost….. and It‘s obvious that we’re not a club to overspend in any department, which I agree with and get.
was it the medical? was it wage demands? Was it our current facilities? Is it agents trying to get better deals for players at their current clubs? The latter we know goes on in abundance…..
We all have opinions and different views, which is great - and that for me is what makes this forum so interesting and readable on a daily basis.

lets Just be thankful that we’re Oyston free and we’re looking forward, maybe not as quickly as we’d like, but let’s not forget Covid gave a lot of businesses a massive blow turnover and profit wise (especially football) - hence why we’re probably a little more cautious about spending.
 
hertfordseasider said:
In that case, let's hope Josh puts pen to paper on a new 4 year deal with us!!! 😉

There was a lot of info saying he was offered more at Oxford, if he wasn't then he did what he thought was right for his family, I just don't know what's true or not. We aren't privy to any of the figures so we're all speculating I guess.
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From what I can gather Karl Robinson had said that the Oxford offer was less than our offer. So that’s probably as close as you’ll get to the truth.

Certainly closer than figures which have just been made up. And when you say there was a lot of info saying he was offered more, there was actually none. (Just a lot of wild speculation from people who know nothing).
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
They’ll never please a lot of folk and I’m not sure there’s any point worrying about it.

I’m sure there’s plenty of stuff the Club could do better and I’d expect they’ll get better over time.

Personally I’m more concerned with where we are in 3-5 years time than I am with how we perform in a single transfer window. Progress is rarely linear and we’re going to experience bumps in the road….

From what I can see we se to be doing all the things I’d expect a well run club to do. That’s all I’m concerned with at the minute…. I’m realistic about the practicalities of developing a squad with limited resources.
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And tbf there isn't a transfer window we haven't improved or brought in players the manager wanted.

They have never let us down.

Doesn't mean eaxh target has been got, but overall they've improved us each window.

This will be no different, especially with the big 'million pound guy' still to come, if the deal is right.
 
Has anyone changed their opinion on anything or been swayed for or against anything as a result of this thread? Personally I don't know yet, as when I looked at it earlier it only had two pages and now there are five, most of which I haven't had chance to read. Note to self - must get an easier job than being self employed. For anyone currently on AVFTT insult bingo detail the helmet and whopper count is ticking along nicely though 👍
 
Just read the Gazette interview from Simon and Ben, they both speak so much sense it is unbelievable!

I just wish certain doom and gloomers on this message board took a step back for once before criticising and appreciate what has been achieved by Blackpool FC in recent years against a tough backdrop of Covid, Brexit, increasing costs etc.

It shouldn't need to be said but we are in extremely good hands with Simon Sadler in charge and I am excited for the seasons ahead! 🧡
 
hertfordseasider said:
I'm not expecting them to pay big transfer fees, a million for us to spend is a big fee and we are making those offers, but we need to start landing some of these players and FFS don't buy players just for the sake of it
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Thats exactly what they aren't doing and why we're finding it harder, we're not going for any old body, we're competing with bigger clubs for better players than we have.

They'll be less of a success rate but hopefully we'll get one soon.
 
Wizaard said:
Robinson says he was definitely offered more money at Blackpool than Oxford but you can't buy happiness.
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Robinson would say that, he’s that type and seems to have an issue with Pool. I’d be very surprised if that was the case. Let’s just consider that Pool offered £14k and he stayed at Oxford for £10k. So he was prepared to give up £200k pa and Championship football, to stay where he’s comfortable. I don’t see that happening.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
From what I can gather Karl Robinson had said that the Oxford offer was less than our offer. So that’s probably as close as you’ll get to the truth.

Certainly closer than figures which have just been made up. And when you say there was a lot of info saying he was offered more, there was actually none. (Just a lot of wild speculation from people who know nothing).
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I wouldn't believe a word that came out of his mouth, at the end of the day we will never know.

Lets see where we are by the end of the window. The O/P was about the article and I still think it was defensive and not what I was expecting. Actually, it was what I expected but I was hoping it would be different.
 
hertfordseasider said:
I wouldn't believe a word that came out of his mouth, at the end of the day we will never know.

Lets see where we are by the end of the window. The O/P was about the article and I still think it was defensive and not what I was expecting. Actually, it was what I expected but I was hoping it would be different.
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The Agent also tweeted to similar effect.

Do you blame them for being defensive really..? With the amount of effort and investment that has taken place across every aspect of the club as well as the promise of huge investment in the clubs future.

If I was in their position I’d have tossed it off and left with a big ‘Fuck You’ ringing in everyone’s ears.

Some of the criticism is incredibly unfair in my opinion.
 
Wizaard said:
Exactly. They're criticised for not saying anything, so come out and make a statement and then are accused of telling lies, in effect. Taking them at face value is gullible apparently.
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Yep.
I don't envy the club, feeling they have to address fans who are only happy when they're unhappy. And can always find reasons to be unhappy.
Thankfully, they're a tiny minority (as evidenced by the overwhelming vocal appreciation of SS at matches).
 
BFC_53 said:
We have had a poor transfer window simply because we've failed to land many of our top targets, I don't think there's any other way of looking at it. However, they're absolutely right on two points. Firstly, we're being a bit more ambitious in who we go for, like Simms for example. Secondly, we have managed to keep together last years squad. If we sold Bowler, suddenly things change and there's much more urgency and far less room for error.
Interesting few weeks ahead.
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There’s still a month of the transfer window left. I’m going to judge if it’s been a good one or not at the end of August.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
From what I can gather Karl Robinson had said that the Oxford offer was less than our offer. So that’s probably as close as you’ll get to the truth.

Certainly closer than figures which have just been made up. And when you say there was a lot of info saying he was offered more, there was actually none. (Just a lot of wild speculation from people who know nothing).
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Honestly Bifster, I don't believe a word that these interviews or quotes say. They say what they want them to say not nec. the facts.

We had 3 window nibbles at CB- he knew what we'd pay and was happy to agree until the last minute. He must have been happy because we kept nibbling and nearly got him. More a case of the scouse ** playing down the wages for obvious reasons.

Anyway a new week, and no reveal of new targets (thankfully) but I'd be surprised if at least 1 didn't come in. Based on no new itk info.
 
Blackpool-rocks said:
There’s still a month of the transfer window left. I’m going to judge if it’s been a good one or not at the end of August.
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Yes agree, should've said poor "so far". I'm not panicking, but I stand by my comment that if we start selling players like Bowler, it will become a whole lot more urgent with no room for failure.
 
fcblackpool said:
Honestly Bifster, I don't believe a word that these interviews or quotes say. They say what they want them to say not nec. the facts.

We had 3 window nibbles at CB- he knew what we'd pay and was happy to agree until the last minute. He must have been happy because we kept nibbling and nearly got him. More a case of the scouse ** playing down the wages for obvious reasons.

Anyway a new week, and no reveal of new targets (thankfully) but I'd be surprised if at least 1 didn't come in. Based on no new itk info.
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Is the wow signing you teased us with, BA (Before Appy), still a possibility?
 
fcblackpool said:
Honestly Bifster, I don't believe a word that these interviews or quotes say. They say what they want them to say not nec. the facts.

We had 3 window nibbles at CB- he knew what we'd pay and was happy to agree until the last minute. He must have been happy because we kept nibbling and nearly got him. More a case of the scouse ** playing down the wages for obvious reasons.

Anyway a new week, and no reveal of new targets (thankfully) but I'd be surprised if at least 1 didn't come in. Based on no new itk info.
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TBH the whole thing makes my head hurt. I’m just not that arsed I suppose.

I’d rather just take pleasure in whatever happens as opposed to just making myself miserable with something that’s supposed to be enjoyable.

If that makes me one of the “Just happy to be here” types then I suppose I am. But that’s my outlook on life generally… I’m happy to be here👍

If I stop enjoying the football or it all collapses in around our ears because the new board aren’t up to it, then I’ll just do something else Instead 👍

I’m trying my hardest here to combat what to me feels like unnecessary and unwarranted negativity…. I’m not really sure why …
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
Robinson would say that, he’s that type and seems to have an issue with Pool. I’d be very surprised if that was the case. Let’s just consider that Pool offered £14k and he stayed at Oxford for £10k. So he was prepared to give up £200k pa and Championship football, to stay where he’s comfortable. I don’t see that happening.
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I find it unsurprising that people ignore what doesn't fit their narrative, calling it, in effect, lies, while continuing to push totally unsubstantiated guesswork. The club are wasting their time trying to explain anything.

None so blind as those who won't see.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
TBH the whole thing makes my head hurt. I’m just not that arsed I suppose.

I’d rather just take pleasure in whatever happens as opposed to just making myself miserable with something that’s supposed to be enjoyable.

If that makes me one of the “Just happy to be here” types then I suppose I am. But that’s my outlook on life generally… I’m happy to be here👍

If I stop enjoying the football or it all collapses in around our ears because the new board aren’t up to it, then I’ll just do something else Instead 👍

I’m trying my hardest here to combat what to me feels like unnecessary and unwarranted negativity…. I’m not really sure why …
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Well said.
At the end of the day it boils down to what actually happens on the pitch. It's a bloody good job we won that six-pointer on Saturday or there would have been some moaning on here.
 
Wizaard said:
I find it unsurprising that people ignore what doesn't fit their narrative, calling it, in effect, lies, while continuing to push totally unsubstantiated guesswork. The club are wasting their time trying to explain anything.

None so blind as those who won't see.
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Think you’ve got me wrong there Wizz, I’m absolutely onboard with the statement, as all my posts demonstrate. My narrative is clear.

My post was about Robinson’s comments. I don’t believe Oxford are paying less than we offered. We did all we can.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I'm not Welsh and to be honest you should all be thankful that I raised the concerns

It's good that they have tried to address my questions from this site

I don't understand the investment bit though as SS has always said he doesn't need outside investment, does he know need it

Why, What's happened?
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Could you be any more full of yourself?

No one is thankful, for anything you have to say.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
Think you’ve got me wrong there Wizz, I’m absolutely onboard with the statement, as all my posts demonstrate. My narrative is clear.

My post was about Robinson’s comments. I don’t believe Oxford are paying less than we offered. We did all we can.
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I can believe it… if I had the choice between £10K per week (and stay where I’m already settled) and £14K per week to move 200 mile. I’d always take the £10K option… in fact it wouldn’t even be a decision I’d have to think about.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I can believe it… if I had the choice between £10K per week (and stay where I’m already settled) and £14K per week to move 200 mile. I’d always take the £10K option… in fact it wouldn’t even be a decision I’d have to think about.
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£10k a week is still half a million a year.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I can believe it… if I had the choice between £10K per week (and stay where I’m already settled) and £14K per week to move 200 mile. I’d always take the £10K option… in fact it wouldn’t even be a decision I’d have to think about.
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Giving up £200k a year, perhaps £800k over the life of the contract. It’d be a rarity to stay for that sort of money, particularly as he’s a northern lad. I think Robinson is just trying to make a point that he chose to stay and for less money. Oxford have pushed the boat out to keep him, but it doesn’t matter, it’s history and he’s not our player.
 
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I can believe it… if I had the choice between £10K per week (and stay where I’m already settled) and £14K per week to move 200 mile. I’d always take the £10K option… in fact it wouldn’t even be a decision I’d have to think about.
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Less thoughtful than I thought you were x3. £10k at a big championship side going nowhere (not up, not down), vs £14k at a club vying for the prem and looking up for it. It's your career...I think you'd move.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
£200k a year, perhaps £800k over the life of the contract. It’d be a rarity to stay for that sort of money, particularly as he’s a northern lad. I think Robinson is just trying to make a point that he chose to stay and for less money. It doesn’t matter though, it’s history.
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By the time you’ve been taxed it’s half that and he must have said a dozen times that he’s very happy and settled in Oxford.

I’d imagine it’s more common than you think for players (especially if settled with a partner and/or family) to be willing to stay where they are for less money.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Less thoughtful than I thought you were x3. £10k at a big championship side going nowhere (not up, not down), vs £14k at a club vying for the prem and looking up for it. It's your career...I think you'd move.
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I’ve made the complete opposite move in my career 1966 and taken a drop in salary to move to where I wanted to be.

Happiness is way more important than a few extra quid and the more money you have, the more that becomes apparent.

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Yes I’d possibly move if the circumstances were as you described, but not necessarily snd it’s quite different ti the circumstances facing CB.
 
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By the time you’ve been taxed it’s half that and he must have said a dozen times that he’s very happy and settled in Oxford.

I’d imagine it’s more common than you think for players (especially if settled with a partner and/or family) to be willing to stay where they are for less money.
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You could be right, it’s just not my experience. It could be that he is being paid less, but received a re-signing bonus. That’s the other way to entice a player.
 
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