Summer transfer rumours deux, the 'Appy edition.

With a squad size like ours it means we can go for quality and not quantity if we ever do make a signing!
On a totally different theme, can anyone remember, other than the infamous away at Penrith, when we went into our first preseason friendly without a new signing on show?
 
HodderSeasider said:
With a squad size like ours it means we can go for quality and not quantity if we ever do make a signing!
On a totally different theme, can anyone remember, other than the infamous away at Penrith, when we went into our first preseason friendly without a new signing on show?
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No, but I can’t remember going into a 1st pre season friendly with a squad this strong and needing less of an overhaul either.
 
HodderSeasider said:
With a squad size like ours it means we can go for quality and not quantity if we ever do make a signing!
On a totally different theme, can anyone remember, other than the infamous away at Penrith, when we went into our first preseason friendly without a new signing on show?
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Totally agree not signing squad fillers from this point on, all signings should be better than the players they are replacing, that will take some time, fewer movements, and we just have to be patient.
 
tangysider said:
Totally agree not signing squad fillers from this point on, all signings should be better than the players they are replacing, that will take some time, fewer movements, and we just have to be patient.
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Generally agree. But there should always be room in the squad and budget for players who can come in and be developed. You’ve got to make sure we bring in players for the near future and not just the immediate future. You never know when the next big injury crisis hits or Steven Gerrard calls some of your first XI in the middle of the night whispering sweet nothings. I think it’s glaringly obvious we need 1 ACM and at least 1 Winger (who can play on either flank) to impact the first XI from day 1. But we also need some back up at RWB (doesn’t necessarily need to be immediate first choice) and then more potential throughout the squad. Another Sonny Carey from lower league / non-league would be nice.
 
Given the money Oxford have pulled in selling Luke McNally to Burnley (£1.8m), anyone think Thorniley will be our first transfer out to Oxford?
 
I calculate, if MA re-signs Grant Ward, that we will have 25 players. In that number are Sonny Carey , Oliver Casey , Marty Virtue and Stuart Moore, who may be young enough not to be counted. MA has little wriggle room in which to deal.
 
Middxile said:
I calculate, if MA re-signs Grant Ward, that we will have 25 players. In that number are Sonny Carey , Oliver Casey , Marty Virtue and Stuart Moore, who may be young enough not to be counted. MA has little wriggle room in which to deal.
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Virtue is 25 and Moore even older, the only ones not counted are U21 players and the only one of those we have is Carey.

Also, I count 25 already, and that's excluding Lubala, one single signing, which has to be at RB, and the squad is full.
 
If you look at the Prem teams they are only just in the past week starting to make their moves.
They’ll need at least 1 if not two weeks to secure their targets then consider with those positions full which kids can go out on loan.

I don’t expect our Prem loan signings for at least 3 weeks unless they are so far down the order not to be considered as squad back up (like Sterling last year or Simms/Ballard the season before.

So now for next 2 weeks it’s a case of any of our lower league or free agents that make a squad / first team difference.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Virtue is 25 and Moore even older, the only ones not counted are U21 players and the only one of those we have is Carey.

Also, I count 25 already, and that's excluding Lubala, one single signing, which has to be at RB, and the squad is full.
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Does anyone have the full squad details including those in the U21s?
 
Yarmouth Seasider said:
Scrafton's squad list, think someone asked for it?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1542811162718388224
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I have to say the spouting of the window doesn't close until Sep 1 is a load of bollux. 7 league games have gone by then and you'd think there would be a couple or so games of quality 'feeling it's way', so potentially in excess of 20% of the season partially written off. Madness.

Signings are needed asap and those who are surplus shipped out or written out of the squad to make room.

Assuming there is the budget to do so.
 
fcblackpool said:
I have to say the spouting of the window doesn't close until Sep 1 is a load of bollux. 7 league games have gone by then and you'd think there would be a couple or so games of quality 'feeling it's way', so potentially in excess of 20% of the season partially written off. Madness.

Signings are needed asap and those who are surplus shipped out or written out of the squad to make room.

Assuming there is the budget to do so.
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Realistically, the club needs a RB and would like an extra in central midfield, it's hardly a write-off if they don't arrive until September.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Realistically, the club needs a RB and would like an extra in central midfield, it's hardly a write-off if they don't arrive until September.
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A worry I have is if MA plays more attacking that we'll create little and will get picked off defensively very easily.

If JG is fit then we only need cover at RB. But we need a left CD, a LB an ACM at least one wide player and a new striker.

As far as I can see about 7 of the squad shouldn't make the final number. Forget last season there's no room for sentiment.
 
fcblackpool said:
A worry I have is if MA plays more attacking that we'll create little and will get picked off defensively very easily.

If JG is fit then we only need cover at RB. But we need a left CD, a LB an ACM at least one wide player and a new striker.

As far as I can see about 7 of the squad shouldn't make the final number. Forget last season there's no room for sentiment.
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We need a right back for sure and a LWB, but we would have to offload Garbutt or James for that. We have Thorniley who is more than capable at LCB as is Keogh so no rush there and we need at least one ACM because we only have Carey. We have enough wide players but I don’t rate Dale so would off load him and we may well lose Bowler, if we do we will need 2 more wide players. I’m not sure we need anyone up front, Lavery, Yates, Madine and Beesley should be more than good enough. I can’t see Bez staying but if we were to get another striker then Simms would fit the bill.

So to really. Improve the team we will need around 7 players so we need to sell or loan out 7.
 
hertfordseasider said:
We need a right back for sure and a LWB, but we would have to offload Garbutt or James for that. We have Thorniley who is more than capable at LCB as is Keogh so no rush there and we need at least one ACM because we only have Carey. We have enough wide players but I don’t rate Dale so would off load him and we may well lose Bowler, if we do we will need 2 more wide players. I’m not sure we need anyone up front, Lavery, Yates, Madine and Beesley should be more than good enough. I can’t see Bez staying but if we were to get another striker then Simms would fit the bill.

So to really. Improve the team we will need around 7 players so we need to sell or loan out 7.
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Short term we have Connelly as RB cover- not ideal, but you'd expect JG to play most games.

Thorniley will go I think. Keogh is a year older so an increased ask.

Carey is unproven and been injured, putting all our eggs in his basket is probably unfair on the lad.

Bowler will go- I think his heart is set on that and you can't keep unhappy players, it doesn't work.

Dale can go for me.

Madine is never a starter in a month of Sundays- he actually slows the play down and is immobile. Yates and Lavery would benefit from him not playing. beesley is another unproven.

Anderson will probably go, if the rumours are to be believed.

If I was being honest I'd say get rid of 7 or so and replacements should include 4/5 first XI players and a couple of ones for the future or impact subs.
 
fcblackpool said:
But we need a left CD, a LB an ACM at least one wide player and a new striker.
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You realize that you've just spent upwards of £5,000,000 there, don't you?

We have plenty at LCB and LB already, an upgrade might be nice, but it's not the highest priority, the club's struggling to give enough game time to the strikers it's already got so again not a priority area, a new wide player depends entirely upon Bowler.

The two priority areas are RB and ACM, anything beyond that will require players to leave, and it's likely to be hard to find value for money replacements.
 
Lost Seasider said:
You realize that you've just spent upwards of £5,000,000 there, don't you?

We have plenty at LCB and LB already, an upgrade might be nice, but it's not the highest priority, the club's struggling to give enough game time to the strikers it's already got so again not a priority area, a new wide player depends entirely upon Bowler.

The two priority areas are RB and ACM, anything beyond that will require players to leave, and it's likely to be hard to find value for money replacements.
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Bowler, Anderson and Thorniley are all very much likely to go. Speculation, but a combined 3m isn't impossible. Then there is the money we'd have anyway, so 5m isn't unrealistic imo. especially with loans.

Do you know something about Gabriel that I don't? Because as far as I can see he's first choice and you'd hope to get 40+ games out of him. Cover only required and Connelly can do the odd game there (wouldn't want a run of 5 or more).

I like Husband but he's not a lwb as such and Garbutt and James have not lived upto expectation imv. Husband would be the cover at LB/LCB and G&J shipped out.
 
fcblackpool said:
Bowler, Anderson and Thorniley are all very much likely to go. Speculation, but a combined 3m isn't impossible. Then there is the money we'd have anyway, so 5m isn't unrealistic imo. especially with loans.
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Other than Bowler, that's very much your opinion, we don't know what we'll get for him, and even £3m would be more than the club has ever spent.


fcblackpool said:
Do you know something about Gabriel that I don't? Because as far as I can see he's first choice and you'd hope to get 40+ games out of him. Cover only required and Connelly can do the odd game there (wouldn't want a run of 5 or more).
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He only managed to play 25 games last season, at the very least we need better cover than Connolly, and ideally a competitive alternative to keep him under pressure.


fcblackpool said:
I like Husband but he's not a lwb as such and Garbutt and James have not lived upto expectation imv. Husband would be the cover at LB/LCB and G&J shipped out.
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That requires other clubs to take them, and for BFC to find better players available for minimal money, not a straightforward task.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Other than Bowler, that's very much your opinion, we don't know what we'll get for him, and even £3m would be more than the club has ever spent.




He only managed to play 25 games last season, at the very least we need better cover than Connolly, and ideally a competitive alternative to keep him under pressure.




That requires other clubs to take them, and for BFC to find better players available for minimal money, not a straightforward task.
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Thorniley is wanted by Oxford- we know that, no speculation required.

Anderson was rumoured ( I said if believed) to want a return South.

Therefore the probability is that 2 will go and less that all 3 will go.

3m is of course more than we've ever received for football purposes. Added to a normal budget and what's unrealistic?

Gabrial had an injury last season. As far as I'm aware that's a one off and he's not injury prone, so I'm expecting him to play a lot more this season. Therefore only cover is required- that need not be expensive, just a specialist RB/RWB.

As for G&J just get rid. Neither are good enough and neither should be in the final submitted squad. How you get rid is unimportant, just do it.
 
fcblackpool said:
Thorniley is wanted by Oxford- we know that, no speculation required.

Anderson was rumoured ( I said if believed) to want a return South.

Therefore the probability is that 2 will go and less that all 3 will go.

3m is of course more than we've ever received for football purposes. Added to a normal budget and what's unrealistic?

Gabrial had an injury last season. As far as I'm aware that's a one off and he's not injury prone, so I'm expecting him to play a lot more this season. Therefore only cover is required- that need not be expensive, just a specialist RB/RWB.

As for G&J just get rid. Neither are good enough and neither should be in the final submitted squad. How you get rid is unimportant, just do it.
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Thorniley was wanted by Oxford last season, there's no guarantee that remains the case, Anderson so far is just a rumour, and it's far from certain Bowler will leave.

Gabriel might have a full season, he might get injured again, we don't know, thus RB cover is the highest priority.

Garbutt had an injury hit season, it's possible if he can remain fit he'll look better, either way it's not just a simple case of "get rid", they're under contract and someone else has to want to take them.
 
I would rather Appleton take his time assess the squad, the formation he wants to play and take things from there. Of the present squad I think Casey is not up to Championship level yet and would benefit from a season long loan to L1/L2. Reece James is a bit lightweight and Luke Garbutt a bit fragile, we could do with a left-sided Jordan Gabriel type player who can bomb up and down the wing. I would use the loan market to get that extra bit of quality upfront and a playmaker in the Hoolahan/Dewsbury-Hall type mode. Keshi and Bowler could both leave or stay depending on what's offered and that would be the catalyst for bringing in additional players.
 
Yarmouth Seasider said:
Scrafton's squad list, think someone asked for it?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1542811162718388224
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HodderSeasider said:
With a squad size like ours it means we can go for quality and not quantity if we ever do make a signing!
On a totally different theme, can anyone remember, other than the infamous away at Penrith, when we went into our first preseason friendly without a new signing on show?
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Agree. When you actually see the squad in black and white, you realise how strong and complete it is. The outgoings that I can definitely foresee are Maxwell, Thornily, Tharme (loan), Lubala, and Bowler, so that's 6 potential incomings - 7 if they went with the academy pro as the 3rd keeper (bit risky probably). Would be surprised if Scully wasn't one of them and possibly Rogers on loan and cover at RB. The rest would ideally then be players of genuine quality who would improve the squad further. There may well be one or two surprise outgoings, but hopefully not given the existing strength in the squad. No need to panic in the transfer market at all, just wait for the right players to come along - either permanent or loan.
 
Don’t see Bowler leaving this summer, unless someone panics towards the deadline. Even less so Keshi, unless we offer him very cheaply. There’s very little market for players in their price range and a lot of supply.
 
TangerineBear said:
Just googled him, looks exactly like the images from there.

I'm intrigued by your knowledge of some random18 year old on a scholarship from the South Coast that has been on loan to bognor Regis 😂

Please explain..
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There was a club article about him last week, pictures included
 
Bearing in mind this is supposedly an 'Apply thread, I can't help but feel a sense of deja vu.
Perennial late bloomers, for whatever reason, opposing clubs always seem to steal a march on us at this time of year
With big Jake and Sickly Stewart out for a few weeks and MA still assessing strengths of current players, we can expect another slow start.
Sorry, but my glass is three quarters empty and I'm nowhere near the bar.
 
Rich T said:
Bearing in mind this is supposedly an 'Apply thread, I can't help but feel a sense of deja vu.
Perennial late bloomers, for whatever reason, opposing clubs always seem to steal a march on us at this time of year
With big Jake and Sickly Stewart out for a few weeks and MA still assessing strengths of current players, we can expect another slow start.
Sorry, but my glass is three quarters empty and I'm nowhere near the bar.
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Take an occasional sip and wait for the bar to clear. 👍
 
Rich T said:
Bearing in mind this is supposedly an 'Apply thread, I can't help but feel a sense of deja vu.
Perennial late bloomers, for whatever reason, opposing clubs always seem to steal a march on us at this time of year
With big Jake and Sickly Stewart out for a few weeks and MA still assessing strengths of current players, we can expect another slow start.
Sorry, but my glass is three quarters empty and I'm nowhere near the bar.
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17 transfers done in the whole division according to the Wigan chairman … but sure let’s go and get a couple of mediocrities so we have 28 players for our 25-man squad just so people don’t get too bored
 
Rich T said:
Bearing in mind this is supposedly an 'Apply thread, I can't help but feel a sense of deja vu.
Perennial late bloomers, for whatever reason, opposing clubs always seem to steal a march on us at this time of year
With big Jake and Sickly Stewart out for a few weeks and MA still assessing strengths of current players, we can expect another slow start.
Sorry, but my glass is three quarters empty and I'm nowhere near the bar.
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We have never had a preseason without triallists, so in many ways we are better off than we have ever been, Learn to drink more slowly you will enjoy it more
 
Insider said:
A bit of gossip.

footballleagueworld.co.uk

3 alternatives Blackpool should consider after unsuccessful attempt to secure Leeds United transfer

Blackpool are set to miss out on signing Leeds United defender Charlie Cresswell, with a Patreon from Alan Nixon suggesting that Millwall are about to win the race.
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I don't understand, the only rumours we have coming out being in the defensive areas, the only reason I could think would be if the club knew someone like Marvin or Gabriel were going. We've not heard anything about Marv and I don't buy all this interest in Gabriel after the year he's just had.

Nixon has lost it in my eyes now, continually wrong and just appears to be guessing at things to get a bit of a headline for people wanting to give him.£1.99 a month.
 
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