Not exactly the same. To the best of my knowledge Sadler isn't poncing off the club.
Sunderland v Blackpool Official Matchnight Thread 04.10.22
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WIZARD OF TANGERINE
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He said he would be a custodian of the club . Promotions and relegations come and go . Training grounds and stadiums are more important to the survival then any expensive players . I also believe we matched both Norwich and Sunderland and there is no way we will get relegated.
WIZARD OF TANGERINE
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No its not we started 1season under the Oystons with 4 Blackpool players on the books in a lower division . Its nothing like the Oystons . Maybe you should ask every other pool fan what they think . Give your head a shake.
Bloodtangerine
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“You’re damn right he ordered the code Red!”
tangysider
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From Day 1 Sadler has said he wants to improve the infrastructure and promote from our own youth when we attract the right calibre.
At moment we are relying on excellent loans and buying young academy players from better sides and trying to improve them. I am happy that we are in transition, and still see an improvement.
Summer will be key when a lot of contracts are up.
tangysider
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We have a lot of players, bought for a L1 campaign. Cannot fault their effort but we need better in summer. I think last summer we had a lot of contracted players we should have moved on sooner.
20togo
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tell me how a training ground brings revenue into the club? And the East Stand. Will we get more fans in it if we are in the Championship or L1? " Seems you want to sacrifice recruitment of players for the long term strategy of the club. Failing to take care of the short term strategy could well mean the long term strategy just takes longer and longer. Make no mistake about it, if we were to be relegated, then there simply will be less money available for the long term strategy. Who would have thought it would take us 29 years to get back up to the Championship when we were relegated in 1978? I think your comment of "promotions and relegations come and go" is somewhat flippant as to how important it is that we maintain our championship status.
poolseasider
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The problem with that 20's spending money has no guarantees West Brom and Middlesbrough are spending fortunes yet near the bottom of the league.
Putting things on hold we have the Deja vu again next season if we stay up so we kick the can down the road and need to be supported with funds
The money for these developments is borrowed to the club and going down as debt on our books so we would basically lending money to pay players which Sadler has told us he doesn't want to do as he's already putting in six figures(whatever that amount is) with no possible return.
20togo
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of course there are no guarantees but you have to try and take care of the short term strategy if you want the long term strategy to succeed. An East stand has the potential to become a white elephant if there aren't fans to go in and at least half fill it. And that could happen were we to be down in L1 for any length of time. The importance of staying in the Championship seems to very underestimated by some! Of course, I'm not advocating the spending of millions and millions of pounds in transfer fees to do that but it needs to be recognised that this team and squad is seriously lacking in the goal scoring department. And that was the case last season as well as this. I understand and it's stating the obvious that our budget has to be spent wisely, we can't afford too many mistakes, but our failure to get some of our key transfer targets over the line is/was worrying. And I'm not convinced that the January window will change that. Striking the balance between short term and long term investment is so important and I have my doubts if it's right at the moment. That said, for me it's always about the football and the players so that is always at the forefront of my mind when it comes to judging level of importance.
Rotterdam+Sussex_Seasider
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A better training ground leads to a higher category training set up. This leads to development of better players and selling on for a higher fee. Also, developing better players so we don't have to spend more on buying players. That's how it impacts revenue.
SeasideKurt
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No, it's literally exactly like the Oystons in the scenario I am talking about. You're going off on some random tangent.
20togo
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Yep, that's the theory, but is it not also the case that the category depends on what division your team is in? Are Fleetwood at a higher category than us? After all, their training set up is much better than ours! And even then, you still need to invest in buying players. No club has a team made up entirely of academy players who've come through the ranks. I'm not convinced that being in a lower division will attract better kids for the academy just because we've got great facilities.
WIZARD OF TANGERINE
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Players were refusing to come to Blackpool during the Oyscum era when they saw Squires gate and if we ever get back to the Prem would we not want 18,000 instead of 14,000. I have watched pool for 54 years and seen them in all 4 divisions . If you go down a division you tend to win more games if you go up you tend to lose more games . If you have the facilities and ground capacity you will probably win more games in a higher division . Of course you can always ask the owner who is already investing millions and losing money because of the size of the club to invest even more , but I would suggest that would be a bit cheeky although you probably invest about £26 every two weeks so you deserve a say.
20togo
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no need for the sarcasm. And If you want to brag, I've watched Pool for sixty years and seen them in all four divisions too. It doesn't mean anything. I want my TEAM to be the best it can and that is not by being in L1. If you're happy for us to be spending plenty of more years down in the lower divisions, well that's your choice. As for Sadler, well when he took over he made his aims and plans pretty clear. One of those aims was to get promotion back to the Championship, I think, within three years. He achieved that ahead of schedule and tremendous thanks must go to himself and Critchley for doing that. But it would also be a cast iron certainty that it wouldn't have been in his plan and nor will it be now, for us to return down to L1. And that's why I make the point that the short term strategy greatly impacts on the long term strategy. And to repeat myself, our failure to get some key transfers over the line is/was a concern. Especially when it came to bringing in a striker who we hoped could score the goals we need if we are to make staying in the division easier and also for us to keep progressing as a team.
WIZARD OF TANGERINE
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Okay ,I agree with nearly all that ,but I would suggest that we are still a small club for the championship and we still have to pay wages . I believe we have the players to keep us up and we don't need to pay big money for other players that could still fail on the field. Even if I did think the investment should be made on other players I would not put it online to criticize a block and management that are trying to do so much for my club.
Costero Poderoso
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Only just got to watch the game - first half we were woeful, im not convinced sunderland were much better to be honest even though they were all over us like a 14th century pox. Patino as a holding midfielder and Kenny at the forward tip of the midfield was again insane and asking for trouble. Having Lavery and Yates out on the wing and playing as wide midfielders is wasteful of their particular abilities. Thomson and Connolly seemed to not want to get forward provide some attacking width and allow Jerry and Lavery to get close to madine. Complete chaos across the whole team, backs to the wall the players found some resolve to throw whatever they had at Sunderland. The disorganisation for me is bad set up and bad tactics.
Second half was better, in that we were getting forward and making things happen, but the number of times we get the ball in and around the penalty area and nothing happens ?????. Their keeper did make a couple of good saves but we still look like we don't know what we are supposed to be doing. Simple things like overlaps and making, seeing and picking runs into the box. There are an awful lot of basics to me that we just cant do, or we wont do, for whatever reason.
Cant say it wasn't an entertaining game, but it feels like we are climbing a steep slippery slope in a pair flip flops, we're going upwards at the moment but at any second we are going to lose our footing and at all falls apart. Marv and Thorniley had a decent game despite the first half clusterflop, Patino and wright both came in and out of the game, Lavery was lost in whatever role he was supposed to be playing, Jerry made the best of it but was isolated a lot of the time. Thomson carried on in the same manner as at Norwich but came into it the second half. Connolly was obviously playing through some form of injury and came close to scoring on a couple of occasions. Corbaneau came on a caused the full back all kinds of problems, won a couple of corners and had same fairly tame shots from close range. I dont think he made a single pass to another Pool player and there were times when he needed to do that.
Our set up was so far from being right in the first half that the players were all struggling to get through the game.
Second half was better, in that we were getting forward and making things happen, but the number of times we get the ball in and around the penalty area and nothing happens ?????. Their keeper did make a couple of good saves but we still look like we don't know what we are supposed to be doing. Simple things like overlaps and making, seeing and picking runs into the box. There are an awful lot of basics to me that we just cant do, or we wont do, for whatever reason.
Cant say it wasn't an entertaining game, but it feels like we are climbing a steep slippery slope in a pair flip flops, we're going upwards at the moment but at any second we are going to lose our footing and at all falls apart. Marv and Thorniley had a decent game despite the first half clusterflop, Patino and wright both came in and out of the game, Lavery was lost in whatever role he was supposed to be playing, Jerry made the best of it but was isolated a lot of the time. Thomson carried on in the same manner as at Norwich but came into it the second half. Connolly was obviously playing through some form of injury and came close to scoring on a couple of occasions. Corbaneau came on a caused the full back all kinds of problems, won a couple of corners and had same fairly tame shots from close range. I dont think he made a single pass to another Pool player and there were times when he needed to do that.
Our set up was so far from being right in the first half that the players were all struggling to get through the game.
Fangtastic
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I'll just leave this here. 
td53
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Whenthepoolcomemarchingin
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Just having a read and a laugh at the comments after the game.
I am certain some people think we are Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool and Man City all rolled into one and the Blackpool players can out play any team....
Be positive they are more than holding their own.
Look at some of the other teams they have splashed millions on players, Blackpool
are giving everyone a decent game.
I am certain some people think we are Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool and Man City all rolled into one and the Blackpool players can out play any team....
Be positive they are more than holding their own.
Look at some of the other teams they have splashed millions on players, Blackpool
are giving everyone a decent game.