That's probably it for me now

Oh no the times of Israel is also full of shit
I doubt anyone would deny that there are some active far right (neo-Nazi) groups in Ukraine. In fact there’s a big issue throughout Eastern Europe with racism, homophobia etc…

That’s certainly not the reason that Russia has invaded Ukraine however, which is purely about targeting strategic territory.
 
I doubt anyone would deny that there are some active far right (neo-Nazi) groups in Ukraine. In fact there’s a big issue throughout Eastern Europe with racism, homophobia etc…

That’s certainly not the reason that Russia has invaded Ukraine however, which is purely about targeting strategic territory.
With the main groups being in Russia.
 
Some ????? Give over
You were denying it yesterday asking for proof I can go on and on
I say the club stay out of dodgy politics is all
I wasn’t denying anything yesterday….

I disagree with your suggestion that Ukraine is a “country full of Nazi’s”.

The Club (along with the overwhelming majority of British Citzens) are showing their support for Ukraine and rightly so.

Why would anyone (apart from traitors to Great Britain) sympathise with an enemy of our Country and our way of life, like Putins criminal regime ?
 
Yes ive read them all
Bollocks….

You’ve read sone Russian Propaganda…. Seen that there’s a small amount of substance to it and been sucked in to believing a hyperbolised and manufactured reality, designed to justify aggression and strategic land grab.
 
The thing is, expectations have changed as the season has gone on. Pretty much all of us would have been delighted with survival at the start but as the season went on and we played some good stuff, it was clear we could hold our own in this league. There was even a stage when the play off's were a serious possibility.
So, to an extent, I agree with Phil at this stage and fear things petering out over the next couple of weeks.
Still it's been a great experince back in The Championship.
 
You saying the Atlantic group is Russian propaganda ot the times of israel

I get it's hard to say you know what I may not be up to speed with what was going on in ukraine before febuary

If the Atlantic group and many other credible sources are wrong plz show me so I can learn
Link me to where u get your independent views
No, I’m saying that you’re believing Russian Propaganda and an exaggerated version of reality, because you believe that alternatively sourced articles back up that propaganda - they don’t.

There are no “independent views” only individual opinions.

 
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that Shows a massive non understanding of Russians hatred of Nazis every little village has memorials to those who fought Nazis they are not welcome in russia
Do they have wrapped views on racial issues and sexuality issues yes they do but that doesn't make them Nazis

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At least move it to the Politics thread. Spouting Kremlin propaganda and saying our clubs supporting Nazis isn’t exactly what a football forums geared up for
I agree regards moving it over to the politics side, it’s no longer about Phil.
 
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that Shows a massive non understanding of Russians hatred of Nazis every little village has memorials to those who fought Nazis they are not welcome in russia
Do they have wrapped views on racial issues and sexuality issues yes they do but that doesn't make them Nazis
Best do a little reading up on Putin's links to far right groups.

It's easy to fall down the rabbit hole of confirmation bias, no one is suggesting that there aren't far right groups in Ukraine but to suggest that this pardons Russia's actions is a) naïve at best and b) completely ignoring the far right in Russia itself.
 
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If you'd like to know more about the Zelensky regime we're all in love with and are a beacon of democracy

Google these names

Vladymer Struk
Denis Kireev
Mikhail Kononovich
Nestor Shufrych
Tan Taksyur

There's more but that will do
I’m not interested dude…👍
 
I thought this was going to be yet another 'look at me, look at me' Phil thread but it took a very different and a much more interesting turn! Cheers Billy ya little liar 😉
 
Checks in on the 'thats probably it for me now' thread about football at the end of the season.

Sees that it naturally turned to debating Ukraine nazi elements. But of course it has....

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