This letter from Boris..

kuriousoranj

kuriousoranj

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Absolutely ridiculous, the stupidity is mind-blowing!

We"ll send 30 million letters out to be hand delivered to every household in the UK..unbelievable!
Johnson...we already know about everything in this letter with the endless information on TV and social media' you tool!

By the way..Its not a personal letter before some of you run out and frame it.

Do something positive you imbecile, like closing down the construction sites (it will save lives) rather than protecting the Tory supporting chums who own virtually all those building companies.
 
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Not often I agree with anything politically minded the o/p says but I do here with regard to the letters.

Postman delivering 30 million, probably unnecessary letters touching 30 million letter boxes. Crazy.
 
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If it offers reassurance or a measure of comfort to 1% of the people who get it, it will be worthwhile. And not everyone is slavishly following the TV or social media.

Your meanness of spirit is staggering, really. We've seen in the last month financial measures to support people that are completely unprecedented in peace time, and funnily enough didn't hear a peep about them from you. Presumably because saying something positive or supportive about a Tory Government is too much for you.

I wish you would reflect upon the fact that 43% of the votes at the last Election went to the Tories. Opinions polls at the moment have them at about 50%. The PM's approval ratings are even higher. I don't deny he has made some mistakes, and will no doubt make some more. But he has stepped up in a way that I really didn't think possible in December and most fair minded people seem to think the same. Perhaps it is you who is out of step with everyone else?
 
Ridiculous post BRR.

I believe lives are far more important than what is nothing more than a comfort letter to the masses.
He'll probably be up to 60% in the opinion polls by the the end of the week but potentially more people will die....no question!
 
My sister follows the political views of yourself, Cat etc. Her words one week ago. “They( the Government) are keen enough to send out tonnes of pointless propaganda during elections etc not everyone can use or access social media, particularly the elderly and vulnerable, why oh why is the government not leafleting the information during this crisis!!!!” I used and agree with your OP. Dammed if they do ...dammed if they don’t!!!
 
Newholland said:
My sister follows the political views of yourself, Cat etc. Her words one week ago. “They( the Government) are keen enough to send out tonnes of pointless propaganda during elections etc not everyone can use or access social media, particularly the elderly and vulnerable, why oh why is the government not leafleting the information during this crisis!!!!” I used and agree with your OP. Dammed if they do ...dammed if they don’t!!!
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It serves ZERO purpose what so ever other than... self publicity for him and his political party.

"dammed if they don’t!!!" who was asking for this letter??
 
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Nah, how ever well intentioned this is, it is pointless really, everyone knows what’s goin on, I don’t get post everyday like many, so postman has got to go down many more drives/ into flats etc to post them...
If you think the druggy or drunk who wants to do their own thing is gonna be swayed by a letter, assuming they open it, your deluded....
 
kuriousoranj said:
It serves ZERO purpose what so ever other than... self publicity for him and his political party.

Kurious never misses an opportunity to condemn Boris, which makes his continuous jibes pointless. However, in this instance, I have to agree that sending a letter to people who already have access to the guidance, at a cost of £5m, putting the deliverers and the recipients at risk and wasting a country full of woodland is crazy.
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Newholland said:
My sister follows the political views of yourself, Cat etc. Her words one week ago. “They( the Government) are keen enough to send out tonnes of pointless propaganda during elections etc not everyone can use or access social media, particularly the elderly and vulnerable, why oh why is the government not leafleting the information during this crisis!!!!” I used and agree with your OP. Dammed if they do ...dammed if they don’t!!!
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Absolutely my 86 year old mother in law realy
 
basilrobbie said:
If it offers reassurance or a measure of comfort to 1% of the people who get it, it will be worthwhile. And not everyone is slavishly following the TV or social media.

Your meanness of spirit is staggering, really. We've seen in the last month financial measures to support people that are completely unprecedented in peace time, and funnily enough didn't hear a peep about them from you. Presumably because saying something positive or supportive about a Tory Government is too much for you.

I wish you would reflect upon the fact that 43% of the votes at the last Election went to the Tories. Opinions polls at the moment have them at about 50%. The PM's approval ratings are even higher. I don't deny he has made some mistakes, and will no doubt make some more. But he has stepped up in a way that I really didn't think possible in December and most fair minded people seem to think the same. Perhaps it is you who is out of step with everyone else?
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Very well said 😯
 
Surely it could have been thought out a bit better instead of wasting all that money that is needed elsewhere at the minute. Every active mobile phone in the UK has already had a text message so that will cover 99% of the country, why not do the same to every active email address? Then only send out letters to a specific demographic, people over the age of 65 as an example.

If text messages, emails, letters to over 65s and constant coverage on TV/radio missed anyone out then what more can you do?
 
The majority of my freinds and family all having similar issues with elderly relatives .
They just don't seem to understand or won't listen. A letter from the PM is probably the best way to get the message fo sink in for that generation . Which in turn could save the NHS huge amounts of resource not to mention the mental well being of people like my wife who is beside herself trying get her 86 yr old mum to understand she cant nip to the shop for her paper .
 
basilrobbie said:
If it offers reassurance or a measure of comfort to 1% of the people who get it, it will be worthwhile. And not everyone is slavishly following the TV or social media.

Your meanness of spirit is staggering, really. We've seen in the last month financial measures to support people that are completely unprecedented in peace time, and funnily enough didn't hear a peep about them from you. Presumably because saying something positive or supportive about a Tory Government is too much for you.

I wish you would reflect upon the fact that 43% of the votes at the last Election went to the Tories. Opinions polls at the moment have them at about 50%. The PM's approval ratings are even higher. I don't deny he has made some mistakes, and will no doubt make some more. But he has stepped up in a way that I really didn't think possible in December and most fair minded people seem to think the same. Perhaps it is you who is out of step with everyone else?
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As Robbie says!
 
Presumably they have to do it because the bbc is biased and keeps promoting contrary messages to those delivered by the government...

All they’ve actually done is lowered interest rates to nothing, borrowed loads on the back of it and then promised to throw free money at the problem. As Lytham says, every initial policy is only half thought through and is followed up with more details once the public tells them what’s wrong with it. By all accounts it smacks of Boris’ time as London mayor when he regularly attended meetings to make random and unsubstantiated comments only to be informed why he was talk tripe.

And when this is over we’ll see further evidence of financial institutions using the (almost) free money to buy low-priced stock and the subsequent improvement in the FTSE etc will be dressed up as a booming economy. The same will almost certainly happen in the US too.

I don’t blame the government for the situation occurring, nor the measures they are implementing, but the notion that they are some sort of war time cabinet leading us through the ‘crisis’ is frankly laughable.
 
Retrofantastic said:
The majority of my freinds and family all having similar issues with elderly relatives .
They just don't seem to understand or won't listen. A letter from the PM is probably the best way to get the message fo sink in for that generation . Which in turn could save the NHS huge amounts of resource not to mention the mental well being of people like my wife who is beside herself trying get her 86 yr old mum to understand she cant nip to the shop for her paper .
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At the beginning Johnson was happy to pursue a policy that would have killed a minimum of 250,000 people. Now that does frighten me.
 
HighfieldSeasider said:
Surely it could have been thought out a bit better instead of wasting all that money that is needed elsewhere at the minute. Every active mobile phone in the UK has already had a text message so that will cover 99% of the country, why not do the same to every active email address? Then only send out letters to a specific demographic, people over the age of 65 as an example.

If text messages, emails, letters to over 65s and constant coverage on TV/radio missed anyone out then what more can you do?
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It’s going to be a lot simpler and Probably more cost effective ( how much work would there be involved in arriving at the necessary breakdown of who fits the criteria you suggest) sending out this way,besides which many people aren’t glued to their Moblies and many won’t even have one in the first place.
 
Cleveleys boy said:
It's going to cost over £5million to get these all printed and delivered....What a waste, Surely that money would have been better spent towards the NHS or building more temporary hospitals??
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Completely agree.

Think for one moment how many protective suits for NHS staff would this £5m buy?

How many respirators for infected patients would this £5m buy?

How many extra hospital beds would this £5m buy for infected patients?

Pathetic Boris no other word for it.
 
I’m purposely not sending any mail at the moment, including birthday cards, as I don’t think it’s right expecting posties to have to go around doing deliveries. Most of ours are well into their 60s so probably should be self isolating.

There are so many better ways to get the message out as have already been explained in this thread that I find the idea of sending out 30m letters totally ridiculous and pointless. It would be much better if the ministers all present a consistent message in their TV broadcasts.
 
It looks as though April is going to be a tough month, and I think that morale IS important, regardless of what the Monday morning quarterbacks on here might have to say. I dare say that there are some people (mainly elderly) who are on their own a lot who might welcome a gesture of this kind. Let's face it, had Corbyn been in charge and done something similar, Kurious would have been creaming himself about his humanity and compassion.
 
straightatthewall said:
Presumably they have to do it because the bbc is biased and keeps promoting contrary messages to those delivered by the government...

All they’ve actually done is lowered interest rates to nothing, borrowed loads on the back of it and then promised to throw free money at the problem. As Lytham says, every initial policy is only half thought through and is followed up with more details once the public tells them what’s wrong with it. By all accounts it smacks of Boris’ time as London mayor when he regularly attended meetings to make random and unsubstantiated comments only to be informed why he was talk tripe.

And when this is over we’ll see further evidence of financial institutions using the (almost) free money to buy low-priced stock and the subsequent improvement in the FTSE etc will be dressed up as a booming economy. The same will almost certainly happen in the US too.

I don’t blame the government for the situation occurring, nor the measures they are implementing, but the notion that they are some sort of war time cabinet leading us through the ‘crisis’ is frankly laughable.
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Funny that, every time I go on Twitter I see a raft of messages suggesting that the BBC is a lickspittle collaborator and Laura Kuenssberg is an agent of Tory Central Office. I do wish you'd make your minds up.....

Your last sentence is revealing too. You moan a lot, but you have advanced absolutely no suggestions for how it should be done differently. I don't blame you for that, as alternatives are so thin on the ground as to be be practically non-existent. But it makes the studied cynicism that you affect all the harder to understand.
 
straightatthewall said:
If the only defence is to talk about Corbyn then you’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel...
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If Corbyn had been in charge he'd have done his best and he'd have been taking advice from the experts around him like the CSA and the CMO. He'd have had my support and thanks for all the hard work he'd have undoubtedly been doing.
This pandemic is fuck all to do with politics yet we have the same dickheads making it ALL about politics. Disgusting.
 
20togo said:
If Corbyn had been in charge he'd have done his best and he'd have been taking advice from the experts around him like the CSA and the CMO. He'd have had my support and thanks for all the hard work he'd have undoubtedly been doing.
This pandemic is fuck all to do with politics yet we have the same dickheads making it ALL about politics. Disgusting.
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I am sick to death of agreeing with pretty much everything you have said in the last few weeks!

We need to survive this pandemic and come out on the other side with as few casualties as possible. This thread is a disgrace full of the same utter bores who cluttered up the old board with their tedious political bile.

I think as a PM BJ has been nothing but reactionary. When the rest of Europe went into lock down Boris fumbled about taking advice from Flu epidemic charts and doing nothing similar to Europe for 2 weeks. This "inaction" has more than likely caused hundreds of deaths. But it's not political me saying this. It could have been a PM from any party.

He still hasn't gone far enough IMO. Allowing 1 exercise per day and trips out for shopping, helping elderly essentially gives a large group of toss pots free reign to go out whenever they want as they will always have a ready made excuse.
 
There won't be a leader of any country out there who hasn't made mistakes. I am still reading stuff about other countries either not in lockdown or just going into them. lt's about realising the mistakes and putting them right asap. And I think he's doing that. And as I keep saying now is not the time for recriminations. And it most certainly isn't the time for political point scoring on here that posters like Cat, Brighton, Kurios and Shandypants want to do. And as they did on the old board. This isn't a lead up to a General Election, you toss pots, this is a world wide crisis.
 
I think we could all sit here and say they should have done this or they should have done that. In the growing panic, that is natural. As much as I think Boris is a total buffoon, he is our total buffoon and pretty much all we have to cling on to and, as such he gets my support for what he is trying to do.
So give him a break and also, don't forget, he's got 30m stamps to lick. Oh.............
 
The over 70s are the most vulnerable and they are least likely to be using social media.
So a letter addressed to them will in many cases more effective than any electronic medium.

Also junk mail works!
Why do you think so many businesses spend so much money and effort to litter your letter box?

If this letter helps get to those who haven't yet digested the information, then good👍🏻
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Completely agree.

Think for one moment how many protective suits for NHS staff would this £5m buy?

How many respirators for infected patients would this £5m buy?

How many extra hospital beds would this £5m buy for infected patients?

Pathetic Boris no other word for it.
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In all seriousness, £5 million in Government terms is a meaningless amount. We've saved more than that by not doing face to face interviews for a week.
 
I don't see why this is political at all. In this crisis it a sensible way of additional communication and ensuring each household has the same message, particularly in relation to the need to pull together, the restrictions and the fact the situation will get worse before it gets better.
And if you can take only one positive out of it at least it gives you some spare bog paper (I have been keeping all the free circulars and newspapers just in case)
 
HighfieldSeasider said:
Surely it could have been thought out a bit better instead of wasting all that money that is needed elsewhere at the minute. Every active mobile phone in the UK has already had a text message so that will cover 99% of the country, why not do the same to every active email address? Then only send out letters to a specific demographic, people over the age of 65 as an example.

If text messages, emails, letters to over 65s and constant coverage on TV/radio missed anyone out then what more can you do?
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Because it got him on the front page of the Sunday papers.
 
Rather see the front line NHS staff like my son and his partner getting tested ahead of glorified publicity stunts like this.
 
kuriousoranj said:
Absolutely ridiculous, the stupidity is mind-blowing!

We"ll send 30 million letters out to be hand delivered to every household in the UK..unbelievable!
Johnson...we already know about everything in this letter with the endless information on TV and social media' you tool!

By the way..Its not a personal letter before some of you run out and frame it.

Do something positive you imbecile, like closing down the construction sites (it will save lives) rather than protecting the Tory supporting chums who own virtually all those building companies.
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I wouldn't in any way dream of insulting Mr Johnson in the way the poster has (for his own political gratification); however, I do believe the huge cost associated with this letter is a total waste of tax payers money. In different areas of the response, there are examples of bodies adding the the huge expenditure, as if the approach is "just add it to the bill, it'll be alright". The approach should be one of spending only where essential to save life etc., as if it were your own money. The country are likely to be paying for this over several generations.
 
kuriousoranj said:
Absolutely ridiculous, the stupidity is mind-blowing!

We"ll send 30 million letters out to be hand delivered to every household in the UK..unbelievable!
Johnson...we already know about everything in this letter with the endless information on TV and social media' you tool!

By the way..Its not a personal letter before some of you run out and frame it.

Do something positive you imbecile, like closing down the construction sites (it will save lives) rather than protecting the Tory supporting chums who own virtually all those building companies.
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Good points on both sides in this thread. For my two penneth I would just suggest that those who believe in acting responsibly are largely doing it by now. Those who aren't are unlikely to grow a conscience on receipt of a Government circular
 
Hertsseasider said:
I think we could all sit here and say they should have done this or they should have done that. In the growing panic, that is natural. As much as I think Boris is a total buffoon, he is our total buffoon and pretty much all we have to cling on to and, as such he gets my support for what he is trying to do.
So give him a break and also, don't forget, he's got 30m stamps to lick. Oh.............
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They had a franking machine apparently in the old Deputy PMs office but that disappeared a few years back,along with a few boxes of biscuits and a an old teapot.
 
I have 2 sons that are posties. With changes to working practices, absences, increase in packages, etc they're struggling to get your mail delivered.
If you are not aware of what you should and shouldnt be doing you probably won't read a letter.
 
basilrobbie said:
It looks as though April is going to be a tough month, and I think that morale IS important, regardless of what the Monday morning quarterbacks on here might have to say. I dare say that there are some people (mainly elderly) who are on their own a lot who might welcome a gesture of this kind. Let's face it, had Corbyn been in charge and done something similar, Kurious would have been creaming himself about his humanity and compassion.
By the same token BR, if JC has been in power (don’t laugh) during all this, and had offered to pay 80% of people’s wages you and some others would be screaming about a communist plot. Yes Boris & co are being lauded (for reference, I believe it was the right and probably only option). So works both ways.
FYI, I didn’t vote Labour at the last election
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As a postie, i'm not happy about this extra work at a time when we are trying to cover about a third of the office being off sick or self isolating. However, more disgraceful is the fact that we have to deliver dfs junk mail to every household this week. Profits before safety unfortunately.
 
I believe the letter is accompanied by a leaflet with various instructions, and contact details. Could be important for those without Internet or social media access (and let's be honest they're the ones most at risk). So it may well be worth sending these out to ensure the entire population is equally as well informed as those who can log on to Gov.uk.

Also, £5m is absolute peanuts for the country. These letters will not prevent enough money being thrown at the problem in question (if there are problems it's due to delaying too long, not lack of money). We're talking about a government that has just spent billions propping up the economy. £5m is the equivalent of one of us losing 50p down the back of the sofa.
 
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