Thoughts after that…?

Dave62 said:
They're all simply finishing off the shit show that Mansford started in the summer by failing to complete essential signings. He is supposed to be CEO isn't he?

I said in the match thread that he should take most of the responsibility.

No planning at all. Recruit an unpopular manager, fail to give him the players he needs, sack him, then sign some of the players players he needed in the first place

** bizarre
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Well said!!! The recruitment has been piss poor, Even Critchley would have struggled this season had he stayed
 
Bamber said:
A fit Fiorini will make a big difference to our midfield. If we can get one of Bridcutt & Stewart on the pitch at the same time we might even start looking like a team who belongs in the Championship.
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It's too late. We have to face facts that we're not going to see either make any meaningful contribution to us this season, and probably never will in future seasons either.
What we have now is what we have until the end of the season.
 
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Jakeyr said:
Why was Patino thrown straight back in to the starting 11 ? And to accomadate him we play poveda out of position isolated on the Wing trying to control goal kicks from maxwell
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Possibly as Fiorini wasn't fit
Either way it was a mistake
 
That was tough to watch and tough to take. They weren’t very good to be honest but we we’re woeful in every department and as I’ve said many times we are a squad of L1 players as evidenced not just tonight but throughout the season. It doesn’t matter how much you huff and puff but if the quality isn’t there you end up and quite rightly so in the bottom 3. We’re still not down yet and it’s never over till the fat lady sings but the fat bird is certainly warming up! And if the wokes and Sam Smith brigade are offended by what I’ve just said then you can fuck off cos I’m not in the mood for that shite!
 
Ginge said:
I disagree.

We've been piss poor all season.
We've had a catalogue of injuries and made the wrong choice of manager in Appleton.

We give away possession far to easily and that's why we lose games.
We can't string two passes together.

The simple fact is that the players we have simply are not Championship standard.
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Spot on!
 
I don’t really see any patterns of play or tactics.

It’s fuckin stupid we are unable to pass it to our best players.

They weren’t that good but passed through us with ease.

Can’t imagine us being able to do it.

Yates injured? Big blow.

Midfield weak as piss.

Glad we didn’t sign anyone on deadline day.

Also, hope that stray horse that was on the pitch wearing number 22 in tangerine made it back to the stables. Looked lost.
 
Halifax71 said:
Just back

Awful, end of.

I was positive before tonight, that's gone. Depressed.
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Just got home myself and that’s spot on, it’s kind of harder to take after the 3 points on Saturday, the amazing atmosphere, the great escape chant, I was buzzing like we all were, this in my mind was the turning point where we’d go on a decent run and scrape survival, imagine what the result would have been if they had the 2 best players fit, it was a great opportunity, now I can’t see past us finishing in the bottom 3, results with Rotherham and stoke rubbed salt in the wounds, to lose 0-1 with a battling performance would have at least given us hope, I can’t say I’ve much hope left now, never mind it’s only a game ( one we aren’t very good at)
Totally pissed off
 
Just got home as I had to run my lad back to Manchester. There was nothing tonight to inspire any confidence in staying up. We were piss poor all over the pitch we made Blackburn look like Real Madrid. Countless times we were passed by with simple moves by their players. It was embarrassing to watch. A lot of our players do not have the quality to play in the championship and we would currently do well to be a middle of the table league 1 side. I’d be amazed if we stay up now we are getting worse by the game. Yes we won on Saturday but on another day Stoke would have trashed us on the chances they had.
 
Fy6Tangerine said:
Can’t disagree with that. But Im not having that with Poveda, Bowler and Rogers - we don’t have more going forward. It’s the manor in which we are setting up for me, it’s square pegs round holes yet again. We aren’t great, but surely not this poor.
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Those three were very poor. Might have some skill but application and fitness were poor.
 
Ball on Fire said:
Appleton had delivered 26 points from 27 games when he was sacked, even a point of game from the remaining 19 games would have given us a reasonable chance of avoiding relegation. Appleton had to deal with an unprecedented level of injuries and suspensions. The squad McCarthy now has at his disposal is stronger and far more equipped for the Championship than the squad Appleton ever had, it is now time for McCarthy to deliver and put the first 6 games behind him and focus on the remaining 13 games.
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Appleton should have gone after Wigan, leaving a new man to assess his squad during the World Cup break and be prepared for the January window to get the players in to fill the gaps.

He stayed until mid January, actually brought players in and was then binned. Too late for any new man to make a difference.

This debacle is on the Board.
 
Wilburrabbit said:
Appleton wouldn’t
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Alas we will never know, the only guarantee is that Appleton would have set the team up very differently from McCarthy who has now lost 3 consecutive away games which is something Appleton never managed to do whilst he was at Blackpool. To get even a point away from home we seem to be totally reliant on getting clean sheets. McCarthy has now had 7 games including the FA Cup match, the football as expected is crap but the performances and the results are even worse.
 
Wizaard said:
Appleton should have gone after Wigan, leaving a new man to assess his squad during the World Cup break and be prepared for the January window to get the players in to fill the gaps.

He stayed until mid January, actually brought players in and was then binned. Too late for any new man to make a difference.

This debacle is on the Board.
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I agree, once we got to mid Jan it was Appleton’s team and he should have been given till the end of Feb at least.
 
Wizaard said:
Appleton should have gone after Wigan, leaving a new man to assess his squad during the World Cup break and be prepared for the January window to get the players in to fill the gaps.

He stayed until mid January, actually brought players in and was then binned. Too late for any new man to make a difference.

This debacle is on the Board.
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Keeping Appleton on after that Wigan shit show is the most baffling decision of the season that has been full of baffling decisions made at the top. As Iv'e posted on another thread, we’ve won 9 of our last 43 league games stretching back to the Forest home game last season and with 3 managers at the helm which is quite shocking and it’s little wonder we are where we are!
 
Wizaard said:
No they wouldn't. They're not good enough all over the pitch.
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Under McCarthy not one of the attacking players in the squad is flourishing, they have all gone backwards and are probably struggling with their roles and are lacking in confidence. These players are good enough but McCarthy is definitely not getting the best out of any of them. You can blame the Board, you can blame Sadler, you can blame Appleton, you can blame the recruitment but the buck stops with McCarthy.
 
Our fete is sealed, well it was sealed long before last night. Planning and recruitment for where it matters most, on the pitch has been woeful at best. I hope the lessons have been learned from this shambolic season and the due diligence, planning, preparation for L1 starts early and has a clear direction unlike this. #COTP
 
Wizaard said:
Those three were very poor. Might have some skill but application and fitness were poor.
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but as Greenall said in commentary if you bring Bowler on then at least get the ball to him. Was it his fault we couldn't even do that? Like I said to those including yourself who said that he should be just an impact player for 20 minutes, that you'd be quick to criticise if he failed to have an impact. Hey presto.
 
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Ball on Fire said:
Critch struggled at QPR where he had a better squad than Blackpool and left with a similar Championship record to Appleton this season.
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Critch came in halfway through the season at QPR, He had had 2 full seasons with us, Most of the Pool squad had been assembled by him, he would have still struggled this season though if he had stayed because the recruitment has been shocking..
 
It's a massive shame that the fans feel so let down by the club they love and pay good money to watch. As a season ticket holder myself I go now without the expectation of watching us win 3 points and the highlight of the match is listening to the home supporters raising the roof trying to instil some passion into what can be a very lacklustre team. We kind of cheer now when a pass actually goes to a tangerine shirt, it seems to be that poor. I have already resolved myself to watching 1st division football next year and I hope that we can massively improve on what we do now or it will be another drop next year. I know we have good individual players but that isn't enough, we need team work. I shudder even when we are taking throw ins because I know that we will lose the ball, there is very little support again team work non-existent. Corners, free kicks etc etc do we even practise them because we don't seem to have a handle on them at all. Don't even mention the lazy football playing way of just hoofing it out from the back for it just to come straight back through our midfield!!!
I think you can gather that I feel frustrated and let down and I feel that is the same for the fans on the terraces as well judging by the comments and conversation around me. The whole management team need to get a grip and sort things out or the result will be demotion and a loss of fans for next season.
Rant over, I just had to get it off my chest.
 
There was never a better time to play Blackburn than last night, relatively indifferent form and missing two of their main goal threats. Nearly 3,000 there bouyed by a home win, albeit lucky, last time out, were completely and utterly let down.

It's fair to say, we just didn't turn up, again! We simply are not good enough to survive. The problems have been there to see all season, our midfield has no shape, no threat and is missed out by clogging the ball as far as we can into the opposition half.

This season has been a complete clusterfuck, from the appointment of Appleton and not backing him, keeping him too long and then potting him too late, another failed transfer window didn't address the glaring problems and MM has proved to be the dinosaur I dreaded.

The sooner this season ends, the better!
 
Without doubt the pantomime of the summer transfer window followed by inept management by Appleton has sent us down. The only question was whether McCarthy could reverse things from inevitable relegation to which the answer seems to be that he can’t.
 
John Deary me said:
Relegation is financial suicide for the club, and the town .
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That just about sums up this predicament tbh.
We struggle to get even half decent players to come to us as a Championship club.
God help us if the iinevitable happens, and we start our descent down the leagues.
This ain't me being a 'harbinger of doom' btw, it's us standing on the precipice of a chasm.

The way we're going, we're going to need snookers to get out of this mess.
 
Last night went largely as I expected and a carbon copy of the home game against this lot. There's just more to Blackburn as a team than there is us. Even with them having their own injury problems to contend with.

I don't think Blackburn will get promoted this year but at least they have a way of playing and a plan and players to do it with. Compared to them we just look nothing like anything, and you fear for what is looming on our horizon now. We look like the kind of side that we could only dream about facing in the predicament we're in.

I guess if we're playing the longer game of trying to eek out results at home and minimise impact on the goal diff then it only ending up 0-1 and not getting any worse was something.

Finish with the most obvious thing that has been on the cards for weeks now finally happening and that's losing Jerry Yates. Who for three seasons has been the one constant you can rely on in a brittle bone squad. Which just shows how much toll this season is taking on everyone.
 
Just back followed by a day's work so time to reflect on the game. First up we are poor out of possession do not get back and get goal side so constantly the wrong side,half a yard ard off the pace and not in position. 2nd the last 3 games I've basically watched Jerry do a bleep test across the width of the penalty area. 3rd on the whole the squad is not up to it, coaching, organisation and reasonable recruitment can close the gap (MA has seen that won't happen this season). The game itself we were poor all round from 1 to 11 with honourable exception for the back four who at least looked like they understood how to be a professional footballers.Having said that we could have got a point at the death but someone tried a back heel 3 yards out.Oh and bowler missed one mid way through 2nd half. The attacking foursome were all on for 30 mins and produced nothing of any real note attacking wise. Can't blame MM for league position but he is responsible for how team are set up and play and yesterday it was terrible.
However a win on Saturday and it's 3pts from two games- get on the front foot and go for the win.
My thanks to the driver for the lift and fellow seasiders for the chat on the journey.
 
I'd rather forget about the game and the racist pissed up bastard stood behind me abusing our players .
I know that money breeds money, but for the Venkys' to charge £10 to park for 2 hours at the ground ,then have a half hours queuing to get out is outrageous. I even had to park on an unfinished part of the car park . Perhaps they wanted to ensure that we also had to visit one of their petrol stations before we left.
I also noticed that their areas of the ground were virtually empty when ours was still full.
Perhaps it's time we went out of our way to make match days/nights difficult for opposition fans ?
If the board was speaking to the fans , maybe we could ask the question ?
 
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