Throwing Missiles

Jaffa_The_Hut said:
So what your saying is the club are never going to win?
Instead were going to have to accept this sort of thing happening week in week out or until the club has to play behind closed doors as mates won’t turn mates in?
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No I’m not saying that at all. The club must deal with it and if I was in charge of sorting it out as a club official I would work with the Police and the Club Stewards to formulate a simple plan to tackle it. I would involve the MSG too if they were prepared to help the club not suffer punishment which will be inevitable sooner rather than later.

What I wouldn’t be doing is saying it’s for the fans who do nothing Wrong to sort it out mate.

Just need clear hands and a clear plan ….easily pulled together and implemented.

Emotional responses are nearly always doomed to fail despite their short term allure
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Thank you I knew you couldn’t continue having a sensible adult debate.

Tells me all I need to know really.
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I’ll debate with you as long as you want but you’re a clown and don’t understand it’s not up to me to start arresting people when I pay to go and watch the match.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Why would I be pissed?

I’am trying to prize out these morons not protect them like some clearly are.
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Because you've completely misinterpreted what I have said in your reply and you are launching into people who's only crime is to have stood in the North Stand and supported the team...

Your out of order
 
Northstandsinger said:
People are missing the point. If people are watching the game how can they see someone usually BEHIND them throw something.
It’s up to the police the stewards and the club to sort them out NOT the law abiding fans fault. !
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It's not a matter of finding fault with innocent fans like yourself. However, if you could identify any of the guilty it would be helpful if you could help the club to get them thrown out.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I’am not saying you alone but there’s 4,000 in that stand and their not all on the first row so plenty do see what’s going on.

And yes it is up to you or anyone else if you see it it’s your club at the end of the day so
help Protect it from these morons.
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It does seem though that some people feel more loyalty towards these hooligans than they do to the club.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
It maybe tells you that you are acting like a prick Jaffa...

You're attacking the wrong people👎
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I’ve not attacked anyone but I’am trying to attack the guilty people that everyone seems to be protecting.
But being called a tool is so adult like isn’t it?
 
Bloodtangerine said:
the fact is that not many people (none in fact) are gonna go down to a steward and say they saw who threw a plastic bottle or whatever and then take said Steward or Policeman up the stairs and to the person who is in there with all his pals. It’s not going to happen.

Nor is anyone going to go up, get the young rascal by the ear and March him down the steps 1970’s Headmaster style….it’s is not going to happen

Blaming fans who have done nothing wrong for the behaviour of others is just nonsense tbh
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So whats YOUR enlightening suggestion then Mr. Do Nothing because ,'It's not going to happen' ?
 
1966_and_all_that said:
It's not a matter of finding fault with innocent fans like yourself. However, if you could identify any of the guilty it would be helpful if you could help the club to get them thrown out.
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I’d say 99.9 percent of people don’t see it because they are watching the match and of those 0.1 percent that do see it may be to frightened to go up to a group of lads and grass them in.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Why would I be pissed?

I’am trying to prize out these morons not protect them like some clearly are.
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No one is trying to protect them mate.

I think you‘ve this one wrong. Your anger at missile throwers is understandable but you said if someone sees something and doesn’t do something about it then they are JUST AS BAD…….that plainly makes no sense at all.
 
mull said:
So whats YOUR enlightening suggestion then Mr. Do Nothing because ,'It's not going to happen' ?
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Why don’t you not watch any of the match ye and stand at the front of the north looking upwards for 90 minutes trying to catch the people doing it ?
 
Bloodtangerine said:
No I’m not saying that at all. The club must deal with it and if I was in charge of sorting it out as a club official I would work with the Police and the Club Stewards to formulate a simple plan to tackle it. I would involve the MSG too if they were prepared to help the club not suffer punishment which will be inevitable sooner rather than later.

What I wouldn’t be doing is saying it’s for the fans who do nothing Wrong to sort it out mate.

Just need clear hands and a clear plan ….easily pulled together and implemented.

Emotional responses are nearly always doomed to fail despite their short term allure
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That's a fair analysis. It would help if fans who do identify these people could help the Club but no, it should not be an assumption of responsibility.
 
traffordtang said:
Sadly too many will blame the club saying they’re over reacting like they said with the 3 year bans handed out.
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Ban them for life do whatever they want but do it to the people responsible not the people who just go to the game. If someone got murdered on your street should everyone be arrested and charged ?
 
Bloodtangerine said:
No one is trying to protect them mate.

I think you‘ve this one wrong. Your anger at missile throwers is understandable but you said if someone sees something and doesn’t do something about it then they are JUST AS BAD…….that plainly makes no sense at all.
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Yes and I still stand by those words.
If you see it report it plain and simple otherwise this will go on and on or until we end up playing behind closed doors then everyone has lost out is that what these morons want?
 
1966_and_all_that said:
That's a fair analysis. It would help if fans who do identify these people could help the Club but no, it should not be an assumption of responsibility.
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If they wanted to give info then they could do so afterwards by saying the area that the “thrower(s) sat in so police could watch next game or look at cctv that covers that area etc….no risk to the “informant” then
 
Northstandsinger said:
Why don’t you not watch any of the match ye and stand at the front of the north looking upwards for 90 minutes trying to catch the people doing it ?
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Any chance of that in English ? Hardly a positive solution to the missile throwing . I suggest that if the big police camera IS being used to spot this type of occurrence then get the culprits identified and banned for 3 years or whatever is deemed necessary .
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Thank you once again.

Clearly you lads in the north all piss in the same pot.

I’am finished I’d get more sense talking to my Dog.
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It’s my opinion that you’re a muppet. Trying to blame the law abiding fans who go to watch the game for the actions of others is pathetic just like you are yourself.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Yes and I still stand by those words.
If you see it report it plain and simple otherwise this will go on and on or until we end up playing behind closed doors then everyone has lost out is that what these morons want?
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Why don’t we give everyone in the North a hi-viz coat to pin point the mission throwers and let the stewards and the police watch the match.

Idiots throwing missiles is not the responsibility of other fans, it’s the people doing it and the stewards and police to stop it.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Thank you once again.

Clearly you lads in the north all piss in the same pot.

I’am finished I’d get more sense talking to my Dog.
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First time I’ve been in North this season Jaffa. Been in West for most games and no one in there looks the type to be “John Wayning” it against anyone tbh 😁
 
mull said:
Any chance of that in English ? Hardly a positive solution to the missile throwing . I suggest that if the big police camera IS being used to spot this type of occurrence then get the culprits identified and banned for 3 years or whatever is deemed necessary .
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It means. If you want fans to not watch the game and try catch people throwing things why don’t you have a go yourself ?
Pay to go watch the game, don’t watch any of it, instead watch the stand catch people then point them out to the police.
 
mull said:
Any chance of that in English ? Hardly a positive solution to the missile throwing . I suggest that if the big police camera IS being used to spot this type of occurrence then get the culprits identified and banned for 3 years or whatever is deemed necessary .
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It makes perfect sense….why you trying to belittle someone for their grammar/spelling?……is that another North Stand issue?……lack of English Language qualifications at grade A?
 
Martonmosser said:
Think the police moved to film the Stoke fans trying to get on the pitch after they scored so possibly won’t have filmed anyone throwing stuff from the North unfortunately
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Typical Blackpool coppers. Can't even point a camera in the right direction let alone disperse a crowd! 🏝️
 
If you dont see it how can you possibly do anything about it? The police stood with a camera facing the stand for the whole second half and they didn’t do anything. It was so poor that it happened, im all for creating an intimidating atmosphere and making it hard for the opposition and giving them grief but all that nonsense throwing objects was cringy. If the police and stewards cant see it how can anybody watching the game see it. And to whoever tarnished “the muckers” with this behaviour how can that be if nobody knows who has threw anything.
 
If the club want them caught they could easily plant some fake fans or install proper cameras. It doesnt seem they are because its happened plenty of times and nothing has been done.
 
todayistheday said:
If the club want them caught they could easily plant some fake fans or install proper cameras. It doesnt seem they are because its happened plenty of times and nothing has been done.
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If they put a copper right at the top of each Stairwell in the north stand then it would stop tomorrow.
 
Northstandsinger said:
People are missing the point. If people are watching the game how can they see someone usually BEHIND them throw something.
It’s up to the police the stewards and the club to sort them out NOT the law abiding fans fault. !
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For clarification. If you actually did see someone hurling stuff. Would you dob them in?
 
Giro said:
For clarification. If you actually did see someone hurling stuff. Would you dob them in?
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It all depends it they tried to throw something at a player to harm them I’d give them the slap they deserve. If they throw a smoke bomb at the corner flag when we score a goal no I wouldn’t.
 
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