Which of the promotion/Premier League squad do you consider LEGENDS

TangerinePeel

TangerinePeel

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Whilst watching DJ Campbell's interview that he did with the club recently, he spoke of Brett Ormerod being a Blackpool legend and I thought he may have sold himself short. It got me thinking about which players from that era are bonafide Blackpool legends. For me:

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What make a legend for me is time served and contribution, the significance of one can outweigh the other. Charlie Adam is a perfect example of that, only 91 appearances but his performances and how he contributed to our greatest achievement in the modern era makes him undeniably a Blackpool legend. All the others I included were part of that, as well as making huge amounts of appearances (Brett Ormerod speaks for himself).

I think the heroes section is where I may cause some debate, for me these players didn't make enough appearances to be considered legends - but being a hero is no small feat.

Would you change any of that? Or include anyone I haven't?
 
TangerinePeel said:
Whilst watching DJ Campbell's interview that he did with the club recently, he spoke of Brett Ormerod being a Blackpool legend and I thought he may have sold himself short. It got me thinking about which players from that era are bonafide Blackpool legends. For me:

LEGENDS
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HEROES
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PLAYERS WE LIKE A LOT
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What make a legend for me is time served and contribution, the significance of one can outweigh the other. Charlie Adam is a perfect example of that, only 91 appearances but his performances and how he contributed to our greatest achievement in the modern era makes him undeniably a Blackpool legend. All the others I included were part of that, as well as making huge amounts of appearances (Brett Ormerod speaks for himself).

I think the heroes section is where I may cause some debate, for me these players didn't make enough appearances to be considered legends - but being a hero is no small feat.

Would you change any of that? Or include anyone I haven't?
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The team that got promoted, the one that played the next season, almost all of them are full on legends for me. The ones that aren’t are still iconic.

Bear in mind I was 15 and 16, just beginning to fully fall in love with football at long last, and the Universe served up that spoonful of fate.
Anybody who looked better than James Beattie reaches at least icon status. Every single one of them, their playing style, their temperament, their best and worst moments, are etched in my mind permanently. It was a magical, magical time.
 
Alf said:
The team that got promoted, the one that played the next season, almost all of them are full on legends for me. The ones that aren’t are still iconic.

Bear in mind I was 15 and 16, just beginning to fully fall in love with football at long last, and the Universe served up that spoonful of fate.
Anybody who looked better than James Beattie reaches at least icon status. Every single one of them, their playing style, their temperament, their best and worst moments, are etched in my mind permanently. It was a magical, magical time.
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It certainly felt sacrilegious not putting some of those names in legend status.

I was young during that era as well, and I have to agree with you it complete and utterly cemented my love of football/Blackpool FC forever. It made the following years of turmoil that much harder, but we came out the other end!
 
Shiggy said:
I think I’d bump Vaughan up to the legends category personally. Left all the Hollywood stuff to Charlie, but he was as important as anyone in our promotion and more than stood up to the test of the Prem. I’ll always remember him as one of our finest players.
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playing wise, I'd agree but those listed in the legend group, always seem to come across as if it meant so much to them when playing for us. For Vaughan we were just another club.
 
20togo said:
playing wise, I'd agree but those listed in the legend group, always seem to come across as if it meant so much to them when playing for us. For Vaughan we were just another club.
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Whilst I agree with what you're saying, Vaughn deserves to be in the legend group. Spent several seasons with us and was probably our best player most seasons, always giving 100%. Compared to some of the others, Vaughn was more of the quiet type and maybe because of that doesn't come across quite as proud as some?
 
TangerinePeel said:
Whilst watching DJ Campbell's interview that he did with the club recently, he spoke of Brett Ormerod being a Blackpool legend and I thought he may have sold himself short. It got me thinking about which players from that era are bonafide Blackpool legends. For me:

LEGENDS
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HEROES
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PLAYERS WE LIKE A LOT
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What make a legend for me is time served and contribution, the significance of one can outweigh the other. Charlie Adam is a perfect example of that, only 91 appearances but his performances and how he contributed to our greatest achievement in the modern era makes him undeniably a Blackpool legend. All the others I included were part of that, as well as making huge amounts of appearances (Brett Ormerod speaks for himself).

I think the heroes section is where I may cause some debate, for me these players didn't make enough appearances to be considered legends - but being a hero is no small feat.

Would you change any of that? Or include anyone I haven't?
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Consider them all legends
 
Vaughan was the main one which took some mulling over and everyone arguing for him makes some fair points. I just feel the appearances let him down to claim legend status
 
Legend is an easy label these days.

I restrict legendary status in my time watching to maybe four or five players in over 50 years watching.

Armfield, Suddick and Green are legends.

Of the Premier team I'd include Brett, although that's partially about his previous service to us, and Charlie who made it all happen.

I've loads of time for the rest, but legends?
 
Wizaard said:
I went to the end of season event when he'd announced he was leaving. He was literally in tears. Just another club my arse.
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You getting touchy Wizz, wonder why that is?
If you look at LW's post at 12:55 in reply to mine you'll see that I gave him a thumbs up in acknowledgement of his comment about it.
 
Wizaard said:
Legend is an easy label these days.

I restrict legendary status in my time watching to maybe four or five players in over 50 years watching.

Armfield, Suddick and Green are legends.

Of the Premier team I'd include Brett, although that's partially about his previous service to us, and Charlie who made it all happen.

I've loads of time for the rest, but legends?
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Was just going to post almost exactly the same.
 
Wizaard said:
Legend is an easy label these days.

I restrict legendary status in my time watching to maybe four or five players in over 50 years watching.

Armfield, Suddick and Green are legends.

Of the Premier team I'd include Brett, although that's partially about his previous service to us, and Charlie who made it all happen.

I've loads of time for the rest, but legends?
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I agree they are legends but the reason for that is people of our age remember them.
Think it's a pretty short sighted and an unbalanced view to think that our younger supporters can't look upon the players listed above, especially in the first group, as legends. After all most of the later players achieved just as much with BFC as those older ones did. In a way, maybe even possibly more.
 
20togo said:
I agree they are legends but the reason for that is people of our age remember them.
Think it's a pretty short sighted and an unbalanced view to think that our younger supporters can't look upon the players listed above, especially in the first group, as legends. After all most of the later players achieved just as much with BFC as those older ones did. In a way, maybe even possibly more.
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Surely its for me to accord legendary status to my choice of legends. If others want to choose others then that's their right, but as you would no doubt say, I don't have to agree with it.
 
Agree with Wiz. I dont mean to take anything away from those boys but id perhaps have them as icons and of those players only Keith Southern and Brett Ormerod I would consider legends.Gary Taylor Fletcher is so close but I just feel like Brett and Gnashers stand out that bit more only being honest.
 
Wizaard said:
Surely its for me to accord legendary status to my choice of legends. If others want to choose others then that's their right, but as you would no doubt say, I don't have to agree with it.i
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I agree but you must admit there's a touch of age-ism to your post. And you did make the criticism that you think people attach the legend status too easily did you not?
 
20togo said:
I agree but you must admit there's a touch of age-ism to your post. And you did make the criticism that you think people attach the legend status too easily did you not?
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I'm old. Do you seriously think Eliot Grandin and Marlon Harewood are legends? "Everyone in the Premier League and Championship sides are legends ".

No they're not. That's exactly why the label is attached too easily.
 
Wizaard said:
I'm old. Do you seriously think Eliot Grandin and Marlon Harewood are legends? "Everyone in the Premier League and Championship sides are legends ".

No they're not. That's exactly why the label is attached too easily.
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But they weren't listed in the o/p were they? The o/p was clearly selective in who he chose and I think he came up with a pretty decent list too.
 
20togo said:
But they weren't listed in the o/p were they? The o/p was clearly selective in who he chose and I think he came up with a pretty decent list too.
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I wasn't talking about the OP. Read the thread and come back to me on that.
 
The Vaughan debate reminds me of a charity do that I attended where Holloway did a Q&A...
Q: Would you agree that Charlie is the best midfielder in the division?
A: No
Q: Who is then?
A: David Vaughan.
Q: Why?
A: Give David Vaughan the ball and you know you’ll get it back.
The problem with Charlie Adam is that he goes forward on a Kawasaki and comes back on a moped!!
 
I did have a think about whether I was including too many, I guess it does depend on how 'harsh' your definition of legend is. I do agree it is a term often thrown about too loosely.

I think the players mentioned there have to be in with a shout of legend status due to having 200+ appearances in the modern game, achieving what they did with us and the years they spent with us (Southern was here for a decade). The two I pondered whether to include were GTF/Crainey but there rest I think without doubt should be considered legends.

Evatt/Southern came up with us from League One to the Premier League, both routinely stand out performers in their roles.
Adam is Charlie bloody Adam and pulled the strings that got us promoted.
Ormerod is Brett bloody Ormerod and we all know the things he's achieved with the club.
 
TangerinePeel said:
I did have a think about whether I was including too many, I guess it does depend on how 'harsh' your definition of legend is. I do agree it is a term often thrown about too loosely.

I think the players mentioned there have to be in with a shout of legend status due to having 200+ appearances in the modern game, achieving what they did with us and the years they spent with us (Southern was here for a decade). The two I pondered whether to include were GTF/Crainey but there rest I think without doubt should be considered legends.

Evatt/Southern came up with us from League One to the Premier League, both routinely stand out performers in their roles.
Adam is Charlie bloody Adam and pulled the strings that got us promoted.
Ormerod is Brett bloody Ormerod and we all know the things he's achieved with the club.
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Interesting comments. Appearances has to play a part as does impact they had on the team. And for me Crainey makes the best eleven I've seen in a Blackpool shirt. As would Adam.
 
Wizaard said:
My quote from the thread. Probably best part of 40 legends there.
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where? I've said it before, I think us oldies in our haste to recall days of our youth too easily forget or dismiss too lightly how great for us some of the players listed were. .
 
Tangerinewiz said:
The Vaughan debate reminds me of a charity do that I attended where Holloway did a Q&A...
Q: Would you agree that Charlie is the best midfielder in the division?
A: No
Q: Who is then?
A: David Vaughan.
Q: Why?
A: Give David Vaughan the ball and you know you’ll get it back.
The problem with Charlie Adam is that he goes forward on a Kawasaki and comes back on a moped!!
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yep, very good and as a manager you can understand that. But as a fan it was Charlie that led and inspired us.
 
Tangerinewiz said:
The Vaughan debate reminds me of a charity do that I attended where Holloway did a Q&A...
Q: Would you agree that Charlie is the best midfielder in the division?
A: No
Q: Who is then?
A: David Vaughan.
Q: Why?
A: Give David Vaughan the ball and you know you’ll get it back.
The problem with Charlie Adam is that he goes forward on a Kawasaki and comes back on a moped!!
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Crazy talk from Holloway that.

I loved Vaughan, and he is the unsung hero of that squad and it was him and Southern sat behind Adam which made an unbelievable midfield trio. Them two allowed Adam the freedom to do what he could do and there is no taking away from his contribution, it was a MASSIVE contribution.

I think in the context of that squad though, you could take Vaughan out and replace him with a likeminded player - they wouldn't be AS good as Vaughan was, and it would lesser the quality of the squad/midfield certainly. But you try do the same with Charlie Adam and that team doesn't get promoted.
 
20togo said:
Interesting comments. Appearances has to play a part as does impact they had on the team. And for me Crainey makes the best eleven I've seen in a Blackpool shirt. As would Adam.
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I agree with you, I put him and GTF in as there is no denying their contribution to what was achieved. I was just musing over if I had to be harsher who I may exclude but my opinion is that they should have legend status!
 
Adam of course being the only Blackpool player who made the divisional team of the season.
 
20togo said:
where? I've said it before, I think us oldies in our haste to recall days of our youth too easily forget or dismiss too lightly how great for us some of the players listed were. .
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Someone said every player from 2010 to 2012 was a legend.
 
I do get Wizs point but it's a valid question is that do you have to be a great player to be a legend? Not necessarily. For me, I would never say Brett was a great player but for what he achieved with us he deserves legend status. Perhaps we could give a title of legend status to the team/squad much in the way we would to the 53 team.
 
If we're going to be pedantic about it and judging by the thread we are, then a 'legend' surely refers to someone whose deeds become the stuff of folklore.

Gary Briggs isn't in the class of any of the players above, but is a 'legend' in the sense that the mythos of Briggsy, his bristling moustache and his uncompromising GBH inflicted on opponents grows stronger each year in the minds of those who witnessed it. He probably wasn't *that* brutal that often really but legend has Briggsy carrying a cosh and headbutting every second striker that went near him.

Being a legend isn't simply a question of football merit, it's a question of character and memorability.

They're all definitely heroes. Charlie and Brett are the ones who feel like all time legends to me but as pointed out already, that's up to others to decide.

It's all semantics innit.

As someone once sang...

 
20togo said:
I do get Wizs point but it's a valid question is that do you have to be a great player to be a legend? Not necessarily. For me, I would never say Brett was a great player but for what he achieved with us he deserves legend status. Perhaps we could give a title of legend status to the team/squad much in the way we would to the 53 team.
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I don't have an issue with Brett. What are you on about? Been drinking ?
 
20togo said:
Interesting comments. Appearances has to play a part as does impact they had on the team. And for me Crainey makes the best eleven I've seen in a Blackpool shirt. As would Adam.
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id have Alan Wright ahead of Crainey in the best 11 I have seen
 
Hazi said:
id have Alan Wright ahead of Crainey in the best 11 I have seen
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no problem, my choice is Crainey. Wright only ever played in the lower leagues for us. Probably helped influence my choice as Crainey was up against better players.
 
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