Wouldn’t have Critchley back ever !!!

Progressfan

Progressfan

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Wouldn’t have Critchley back ever !……….. his personal ambition was the root cause of the situation we find ourselves in .
Not forgetting he did exactly what Appleton did when he was first here ……… walk out on the club , which is what the fans had a downer on him for , the difference being he had the Oystons to put up with a nothing contract whereas Critchley had a four year deal with backing of the board and the supporters, but left us in the mire without a word to the supporters as to his reasons for several months after the departure. Failed badly at Villa and QPR so not great credentials for future success.
They always say never bring a manager back a second time as we’ve seen many times before …….. Appleton a prime example . Fresh young blood required ……… and no has beens !
 
Did a bit more in his time though here then Appleton which is also a big difference you seem to miss out.

Yes his departure was shit and a statement of some sort would have been nice but people forget he isn’t a fan, it’s a job to him and on paper it probably looked a better opportunity for him and one would suspect more money which I’m sure the majority of people in any job would take.

I know QPR didn’t go for well for him but Ainsworth isn’t doing much better is he.

Critchley wouldn’t be my first choice but we could do a lot worse in League One.
 
He was never going to be here for life and so I don’t see a problem myself.
That said have always said ‘never go back’ which is why I’d be unsure about a second time.
 
Progressfan said:
Wouldn’t have Critchley back ever !……….. his personal ambition was the root cause of the situation we find ourselves in .
Not forgetting he did exactly what Appleton did when he was first here ……… walk out on the club , which is what the fans had a downer on him for , the difference being he had the Oystons to put up with a nothing contract whereas Critchley had a four year deal with backing of the board and the supporters, but left us in the mire without a word to the supporters as to his reasons for several months after the departure. Failed badly at Villa and QPR so not great credentials for future success.
They always say never bring a manager back a second time as we’ve seen many times before …….. Appleton a prime example . Fresh young blood required ……… and no has beens !
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I think you’re going to be a bit pissed off then.
 
Critch with an experienced No.2 and a meaningful effort to rebuild relations with the fans would do me.

No coincidence that results picked up when Calderwood arrived and dropped off (slowly) when McCall left, nor that it didn’t go well at QPR with the same gang.

What’s essential is that all the eggs cannot be in the same basket.
 
The Board said they underestimated the fans opinion following Applegones appointment, if Quitchley us appointed they can't roll out that excuse again.
Decent manager for us or not, his appointment would divide the fan base.
 
Why would he come back? he left for a reason. Nothing has changed we still are little club with no finances, dipping in the cheap options for players who invariably spend much of the season on the physio's bench. Hence why we get the Appletons and the McCarthy's.
 
It’s no different from players leaving to double or triple their wages

Bowler did yet he was welcomed back

One is a Judas one isn’t

The only difference I can see is that one penned a lovely letter to the fans one didn’t

Neither betrayed the club

Had either gone to a local rival i accept that would be different but neither did

Don’t let emotion get in the way of common sense

I’m not suggesting Critch walks back into the club btw .

The club must speak to others as well and make a decision based on objective analysis .

Whoever comes out on top in the process should get the job .

Critch ‘s record with BFC puts him high up I would say

He might not even be interested anyway
 
Pointless thread he hasn’t got the balls to take the job he’s a weak little man and a bad football manager we need much better than him to turn things around
 
Chunkylad said:
The Judas bit is interesting?

Brett Ormerod left for money and his career. He even then went to play for the scum.

He was welcomed back without any fan calling him a snake or a Judas
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After playing for Preston as well .

It’s all to do with the manner in which you leave

Nice few words explaining your actions and thanking people you’re ok

Leaving a club to go and double or triple your wages is not an act of treachery

Leaving for pne or a local rival in the same division or lower is
 
Not bothered about what he did and how he left. If he was unknown to us, given his record at Villa ( who are fling since he and Gerrard got the boot), but more so at QPR would you / anyone employ him? It's a big, fat NO from me.
 
Enzo said:
Pointless thread he hasn’t got the balls to take the job he’s a weak little man and a bad football manager we need much better than him to turn things around
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Yep a poor weak manager lacking in integrity and character………… the board can’t afford to make yet another mistake or sadly we could find ourselves plummeting down the leagues again .
 
It won’t make any difference to me and my choice of support next season or any which follow. It’s fellow supporters who define the club character and ultimately it’s them and the club badge, it’s history and location to whom we ‘belong’. Not managers or players or owners.

Critchley earned praise from those who he coached and outcomes to back it up. If that brings success, then great. But he should never be put on a pedestal again.

My problem is that we all know it’ll be divisive and that is not good. And probably that’s the real difficulty in appointing him. It’s an unknown which could be hugely damaging and very difficult to mitigate against. It would be a ‘brave’ decision to put a contract in front of him.
 
I doubt whether he’s even in the picture

The club can do without soppy fans turning on them and him if we lose a couple with the inevitable don’t know what they are doing etcetc

Best to employ someone who might not be as good and a bigger risk . At least they won’t be accused of going back

It’s ridiculous . Some of our fans need to grow a pair
 
Mr Tangerine Man said:
Why would he come back? he left for a reason. Nothing has changed we still are little club with no finances, dipping in the cheap options for players who invariably spend much of the season on the physio's bench. Hence why we get the Appletons and the McCarthy's.
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He is out of work and will have been out of work for more than 100 days since he left Blackpool less than a year ago. He needs to rebuild his reputation after two sackings in 8 months and will want to be in a job before the new season starts. He left Blackpool to work alongside Steve Gerrard at a Premier League Club doing coaching and developing high quality players which is the part of the job he loved and tripled his Blackpool wages. If Gerrard had not given him the call he would probably still be at Blackpool today unless we had sacked him.
 
Some of the comments on here are nonsensical. At the end of the day there is no emotion here - the club need to select the best available manager who fits the "Pool Model". The big worry for me is that the club will be influenced by some of the rubbish being spouted on here, and will [AGAIN] make the wrong choice. If I was in Sadler's position, I would also be reviewing the CEO position, and who knows he might already be doing that. In any other organisation, when things go wrong, it's the CEO who is often accountable, and if BM is lucky enough to survive this season's cock-ups, it needs to be made clear that he is in the last chance saloon and next time he will be out.
 
AngelBFC said:
It’s no different from players leaving to double or triple their wages

Bowler did yet he was welcomed back

One is a Judas one isn’t

The only difference I can see is that one penned a lovely letter to the fans one didn’t

Neither betrayed the club

Had either gone to a local rival i accept that would be different but neither did

Don’t let emotion get in the way of common sense

I’m not suggesting Critch walks back into the club btw .

The club must speak to others as well and make a decision based on objective analysis .

Whoever comes out on top in the process should get the job .

Critch ‘s record with BFC puts him high up I would say

He might not even be interested anyway
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managers are more often than not always treated differently to players when they leave. Especially if they are moving upwards.
 
PR3BFC said:
Did a bit more in his time though here then Appleton which is also a big difference you seem to miss out.

Yes his departure was shit and a statement of some sort would have been nice but people forget he isn’t a fan, it’s a job to him and on paper it probably looked a better opportunity for him and one would suspect more money which I’m sure the majority of people in any job would take.

I know QPR didn’t go for well for him but Ainsworth isn’t doing much better is he.

Critchley wouldn’t be my first choice but we could do a lot worse in League One.
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Brett signed a new contract so that the club received a hefty fee ,albeit it has not been found yet .
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we also got £1.5m for Critchley
 
This is what was said by SS after he left

“It came as a great surprise to the board and me when a couple of weeks ago Neil said that an opportunity had presented itself that he was keen to take,” Sadler said.
“The chance to work again with Steven Gerrard and to pit himself against some of the best coaches in the world in the Premier League was one that he felt that he could not pass up.
“It’s that simple, there are no other reasons, that’s why he left.”
Sadler added: I’ll miss Critch. The emotion that he showed and the connection that he had with the fans, the players and the club was heartfelt and real.

“He and I have spoken recently and have both agreed that his exit could’ve been handled more gracefully, but we all know that he leaves us in much better shape than when he joined.
“I will always welcome Critch back to Bloomfield Road with open arms and will always be grateful to him for what he achieved at our club.”
 
Progressfan said:
Wouldn’t have Critchley back ever !……….. his personal ambition was the root cause of the situation we find ourselves in .
Not forgetting he did exactly what Appleton did when he was first here ……… walk out on the club , which is what the fans had a downer on him for , the difference being he had the Oystons to put up with a nothing contract whereas Critchley had a four year deal with backing of the board and the supporters, but left us in the mire without a word to the supporters as to his reasons for several months after the departure. Failed badly at Villa and QPR so not great credentials for future success.
They always say never bring a manager back a second time as we’ve seen many times before …….. Appleton a prime example . Fresh young blood required ……… and no has beens !
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Good fit for Blackpool everyone does mistakes
 
SeasideTizz said:
This is what was said by SS after he left

“It came as a great surprise to the board and me when a couple of weeks ago Neil said that an opportunity had presented itself that he was keen to take,” Sadler said.
“The chance to work again with Steven Gerrard and to pit himself against some of the best coaches in the world in the Premier League was one that he felt that he could not pass up.
“It’s that simple, there are no other reasons, that’s why he left.”
Sadler added: I’ll miss Critch. The emotion that he showed and the connection that he had with the fans, the players and the club was heartfelt and real.

“He and I have spoken recently and have both agreed that his exit could’ve been handled more gracefully, but we all know that he leaves us in much better shape than when he joined.
“I will always welcome Critch back to Bloomfield Road with open arms and will always be grateful to him for what he achieved at our club.”
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Unfortunately we weren’t left in a much better shape than when he joined hence our current position.
 
What's the proverb? If you release a bird and it comes back then you'll have the bird forever. I don't think critch would ever have his eyes distracted again. Surely a good thing?
 
Progressfan said:
Wouldn’t have Critchley back ever !……….. his personal ambition was the root cause of the situation we find ourselves in .
Not forgetting he did exactly what Appleton did when he was first here ……… walk out on the club , which is what the fans had a downer on him for , the difference being he had the Oystons to put up with a nothing contract whereas Critchley had a four year deal with backing of the board and the supporters, but left us in the mire without a word to the supporters as to his reasons for several months after the departure. Failed badly at Villa and QPR so not great credentials for future success.
They always say never bring a manager back a second time as we’ve seen many times before …….. Appleton a prime example . Fresh young blood required ……… and no has beens !
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I'm with you mate. No matter how logical it might be to take him back, and no matter how contrite he might be, it's a definite no. I recall he said something like he just couldn't pass up the opportunity to coach in the Premier League. Well, excuse me. Aren't you supposed to put all your effort into getting there with the team you're managing?
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I'm with you mate. No matter how logical it might be to take him back, and no matter how contrite he might be, it's a definite no. I recall he said something like he just couldn't pass up the opportunity to coach in the Premier League. Well, excuse me. Aren't you supposed to put all your effort into getting there with the team you're managing?
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Yep as his first managerial position the club gave a commitment to him with a four year contract which obviously means nothing to a man of little integrity where more money is concerned what happened to all his love in with the club and the crowd where was his commitment all very much a false front from a weak manager.
 
Tanger said:
What's the proverb? If you release a bird and it comes back then you'll have the bird forever. I don't think critch would ever have his eyes distracted again. Surely a good thing?
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Wasn’t the case with Nathan Jones. He made an apology, took a pay cut said he won’t do it again then sacked them off for Southampton.
 
Not read the whole thread, I have a foot in both camps. I was disappointed at the manner of him leaving but can understand why he left.

One comparison is Eddie Howe with the Bournemouth Burnley move. Managers make career decisions. Some work, some don't. Going back can work.

You can even bring Ollie into that with his move from Plymouth to Leicester. He openly admitted that ultimately mafe him a better manager when he came to us.

Let's see how Dobbie does, but it maybe too soon for him. Maybe a Critch Dobbie combo.
 
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Halifax71 said:
Not read the whole thread, I have a foot in both camps. I was disappointed at the manner of him leaving but can understand why he left.

One comparison is Eddie Howe with the Bournemouth Burnley move. Managers make career decisions. Some work, some don't. Going back can work.

You can even bring Ollie into that with his move from Plymouth to Leicester. He openly admitted that ultimately mafe him a better manager when he came to us.

Let's see how Dobbie does, but it maybe too soon for him. Maybe a Critch Dobbie combo.
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And Hollowords openly stated to thise of us present at the deepdale revisited event the day after he joined that he had hurt his dad by walking out of Plymouth, so much that he would never walk out on a contract again..
Holliwords by name, Hollowords by nature
 
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