Cummings

“No 10 claimed that Mr Cummings was self-isolating with symptoms of the deadly disease at home.
On 31 March, the PM’s official spokesman told journalists: "I think he’s in touch with No10 but he is at home, he is self-isolating, he has some symptoms."
After he returned to work, Mr Cummings' wife wrote about the family's experience of self-isolating during the lockdown, but gave few clues as to their location.
She wrote: "Dom couldn’t get out of bed. Day in, day out for ten days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms that made the muscles lump and twitch in his legs. He could breathe, but only in a limited, shallow way.
Several days later on April 5, a neighbour of Mr Cummings' parents claims they spotted him outside the property while passing for their daily exercise.
They said they could hear Abba's Dancing Queen blasting out loudly and peered over the hedge where they saw him, wearing a scarf and thick coat, with a small boy running around.“

So he was at home when he was in Durham. Couldn’t get out of bed for 10 days but was seen in the garden with his son just 5 days later whilst he was supposed to be self isolating. Doesn’t seem to have much concern for the welfare of his parents or his son let alone for the rest of the population.
 
I haven’t watched the coronavirus updates for about two weeks. I wish I hadn’t bothered today. Journalists wasting their questions as usual
 
Your key argument about leaving the EU was because it was run by unelected bureaucrats. An English unelected bureaucrat who runs roughshod over lockdown rules is absolutely fine.
 
Grant's Shafted has just said that DumbDick asserts that neither he nor any member of his family were spoken to by Durham Police.

Who do we all believe? I think the answers quite clear. But hang on, they may have spoken to the Butler or the Scullery Maid.

Apparently, Ginsters are going to sign him up for their new advertising campaign. He tells porkies, so he should be able to promote them as well !!
 
So, just what does DumbDick have on Johnson?

Has he been siphoning money into offshore accounts, does he have another 12 illegitimate children he hasn't declared, or and what would create a national outrage ?-

Has he been molesting Larry the Cat ???
 
They weren’t going to get the answer they wanted from the Transport Secretary. I wanted more information about the investments he was talking about In the transport infrastructure and are there any changes regarding lockdown.
Now we’ve had to listen to that Scottish idiot. If you read my earlier comments I think Cummings should resign
 
Think there's essentially two issues here.
Yeah, sure it's easy to say he wasn't putting anyone at risk by coming into contact and passing the virus on. and that may well be the case. And it's an excuse being made.
But the second and much more important issue is that he clearly broke the guidelines issued by government. And which the vast majority of the public has adhered to. Simply no excuses. He should resign as it only will further undermine the govt until he does so. If he doesn't it's pretty inevitable that he will be sacked.
 
What an absolute sack of shite that press conference was.
In other words we have always been able to go where we want based on our own interpretation of the guidelines. I think not.
Maybe my daughter should drive for 300 miles and book into a holiday home near great Aunt Fanny just because she’s had a sniffle and ‘might’ get really ill and I ‘might’ be too busy as a key worker to take her groceries around.
All supposition and pre emptive bloody nonsense and a gross flouting of the rules in the name of self interpretation and discretion regarding non existent safeguarding concerns in this case.
Felt a little sorry for Harris and even Schapps. They obviously aren’t in the loop but are trying to fight off the baying wolves with a modicum of honesty yet duplicity.
Get rid of that Cummings tosser ASAP.
 
But if Dom resigns or is sacked for this, he will not get his knighthood sometime down the road, in Bozo’s resignation honours list. That will put him in a bad mood. And Bozo/Gove must be a little worried that he has all the guff on them going back to before the 2016 EU referendum. With no income nor the Cabinet gag on him Dom would be bound to sell his stories to the Daily Mail. That’s what Bozo and Oiky are afraid of.
 
Boris needs to nip it in the bud and sack him or the questions won’t go away and will detract from any positive news that might be coming out
 
But if Dom resigns or is sacked for this, he will not get his knighthood sometime down the road, in Bozo’s resignation honours list. That will put him in a bad mood. And Bozo/Gove must be a little worried that he has all the guff on them going back to before the 2016 EU referendum. With no income nor the Cabinet gag on him Dom would be bound to sell his stories to the Daily Mail. That’s what Bozo and Oiky are afraid of.
I normally smile at stories like this, but can currently see not alternative explanation. He has single handedly blown the Government's self isolation rules to smithereens. Why would they allow this unless he held something over them. I actually thought Grant Shapps did very well acting this role, Jenny Harries, whilst being slightly supportive, also put the knife in regarding self isolation, her advice was black and white.

I think this will come to a head tomorrow when Durham Police confirm they did speak to someone, and one of the Sunday Papers puts what came out today alongside his wife's Spectator article.
 
It would seem that Boris relies heavily on Cummings to do his thinking for him and will do everything he can to hang on to him.

The other thought is that Cummings initially wanted to pursue the herd immunity policy, which was soon dismissed as disastrous and likely to bring the NHS to its knees, so this move across the country might have been his personal plan to activate herd immunity and prove he was right all along.
 
I normally smile at stories like this, but can currently see not alternative explanation. He has single handedly blown the Government's self isolation rules to smithereens. Why would they allow this unless he held something over them. I actually thought Grant Shapps did very well acting this role, Jenny Harries, whilst being slightly supportive, also put the knife in regarding self isolation, her advice was black and white.

I think this will come to a head tomorrow when Durham Police confirm they did speak to someone, and one of the Sunday Papers puts what came out today alongside his wife's Spectator article.
Totally agree Mossy. I got the impression Harries was less than supportive in reality.
 
It would seem that Boris relies heavily on Cummings to do his thinking for him and will do everything he can to hang on to him.

The other thought is that Cummings initially wanted to pursue the herd immunity policy, which was soon dismissed as disastrous and likely to bring the NHS to its knees, so this might have been his personal plan to activate herd immunity and prove he was right all along.
I think you give him too much credit in your last para 50’s.
 
Mind you, when Prince Charles contracted the Covid-19 and had already tested POSITIVE in London, he and Camilla were whisked straight up to Birkhall on the Balmoral estate in Scotland. Presumably by RAF Royal Flight jet to Aberdeen. So, no hypocrisy there, then. Or did they give the excuse that they were physically separating the heir from the monarch and his son and grandson, to ensure the line of succession? What’s good enough for old Jug-ears is permission for anyone, eh?
 
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I wonder why this has come out now.
Who does it benefit?
There are reports, no idea if they are true, that Cumming's wife has a sister living in London plus an aide living two streets away.

Many people are concerned about coming out of lockdown. Is this another nudge?
 
This is from Alex massie the Scotland Editor of the Spectator today. This is the Tory rag that Johnson once edited so you'd expect them to be supportive of the current Government line

"Most aspects of this present emergency are complex and resist easy solutions. Only a handful are elementary but one of these, and quite obviously so, is the Dominic Cummings affair. He must go and he must go now. There is no alternative, no other way out, no means by which this ship can be saved. The only question is the number of casualties Cummings will take with him.

Judged by the cabinet’s performance on social media this weekend, the answer to that question is also simple: all of them. It cannot be stressed too often that the government’s authority during this crisis is moral much more than it is legal. The lockdown measures were presented as a great national collective endeavour and they were accepted by the public on those terms too. Now it seems they were optional so long as, that is, you have the correct connections.

Advisors are, by definition, disposable. When they become the story, you cut them loose. That is the rule and it exists for a very good reason. Otherwise, attention soon shifts from the advisor to their masters. Right now, the government appears to believe Cummings is indispensable and, consequently, more important than the coherence and credibility of the government’s own messaging. That is quite a conclusion to reach and one unlikely to be shared by the general public.

This government now suffers from a credibility gap and the problem with such things is that, once opened and apparent, these gaps never close. The longer Cummings remains in post, the surer it is that the government will become, at best, a laughing stock.
It doesn’t even matter if what he did was appropriate or sensible or a reasonable means by which an awkward or complicated situation might best be managed. All that could be true and it wouldn’t change a thing. Perception is sometimes more important and here the perception is that there is one set of rules for government insiders and another, quite different, set of rules for everyone else. That is not just the perception, either, for it appears to be the reality too and will remain so, and be understood as such, for as long as Dominic Cummings remains in post. You may sympathise with his predicament – an unwell wife, a small child – all you like and it doesn’t change a thing.

Cabinet ministers, mysteriously, are setting fire to their own credibility and authority in defending Cummings. There are millions of people across the country who have made considerable sacrifices, borne significant hardship, during this lockdown. They have done so for the greater good, recognising that they must do their little bit as part of a much greater endeavour. Weddings have been postponed; funerals have been left unattended; families have been separated. Little of this experience has been easy and much of it has been hard.

It is baffling that the government appears unable to see the damage this story will do to its already rocky reputation. Cummings’s judgement is one thing – and in the grander scheme of things, neither here nor there – but the longer this story rumbles on so the surer it is that attention will switch to the man who hired him. The point of a human shield is that you must be prepared to lose them if that proves necessary and this is something even Boris Johnson must be capable of grasping. It is his judgement that is now the issue.

The suspicion remains that somewhere, deep in their hearts, the cabinet’s collective reaction to this scandal – for such it is – is predicated on a still darker appreciation of an unwelcome political reality. Namely that the Prime Minister, whatever his other talents, is not actually up to the job of running the country in a moment such as this. I suspect they know this too and this leads them to a situation in which they decline to concede anything for fear that a single concession might topple the entire rickety edifice.Perhaps I am mistaken about that but I can see no other logical explanation for the manner in which the government has reacted to this story. There is an old rule in crisis management stating that you should always do quickly what you will be forced to do eventually anyway. That means sacking Cummings now and it is astonishing that this appears beyond Downing Street.You cannot – and again, this is elementary – run this crisis on a 'do as I say, not as I do' basis. And yet that is what the country is now expected to swallow. It is madness and a blunder of career-defining, perhaps even career-ruining, proportions.A joke, then, albeit not an especially amusing one. Surely someone in Downing Street can appreciate this? This is a shipwreck and all the smart people who say this will blow over or fail to 'cut through' with the public are, I think, sorely mistaken. This is not a difficult story to understand, which is why it is so very powerful.Again, and above all, this is a moral matter not a legal one and, by virtue of that, a much bigger and more profound affair. The Prime Minister has a simple choice: cut Dominic Cummings loose or be dragged down with him. This ought to be a pretty easy decision."
https://www.spectator.co.uk/writer/alex-massie
 
This is from Alex massie the Scotland Editor of the Spectator today. This is the Tory rag that Johnson once edited so you'd expect them to be supportive of the current Government line

"Most aspects of this present emergency are complex and resist easy solutions. Only a handful are elementary but one of these, and quite obviously so, is the Dominic Cummings affair. He must go and he must go now. There is no alternative, no other way out, no means by which this ship can be saved. The only question is the number of casualties Cummings will take with him.

Judged by the cabinet’s performance on social media this weekend, the answer to that question is also simple: all of them. It cannot be stressed too often that the government’s authority during this crisis is moral much more than it is legal. The lockdown measures were presented as a great national collective endeavour and they were accepted by the public on those terms too. Now it seems they were optional so long as, that is, you have the correct connections.

Advisors are, by definition, disposable. When they become the story, you cut them loose. That is the rule and it exists for a very good reason. Otherwise, attention soon shifts from the advisor to their masters. Right now, the government appears to believe Cummings is indispensable and, consequently, more important than the coherence and credibility of the government’s own messaging. That is quite a conclusion to reach and one unlikely to be shared by the general public.

This government now suffers from a credibility gap and the problem with such things is that, once opened and apparent, these gaps never close. The longer Cummings remains in post, the surer it is that the government will become, at best, a laughing stock.
It doesn’t even matter if what he did was appropriate or sensible or a reasonable means by which an awkward or complicated situation might best be managed. All that could be true and it wouldn’t change a thing. Perception is sometimes more important and here the perception is that there is one set of rules for government insiders and another, quite different, set of rules for everyone else. That is not just the perception, either, for it appears to be the reality too and will remain so, and be understood as such, for as long as Dominic Cummings remains in post. You may sympathise with his predicament – an unwell wife, a small child – all you like and it doesn’t change a thing.

Cabinet ministers, mysteriously, are setting fire to their own credibility and authority in defending Cummings. There are millions of people across the country who have made considerable sacrifices, borne significant hardship, during this lockdown. They have done so for the greater good, recognising that they must do their little bit as part of a much greater endeavour. Weddings have been postponed; funerals have been left unattended; families have been separated. Little of this experience has been easy and much of it has been hard.

It is baffling that the government appears unable to see the damage this story will do to its already rocky reputation. Cummings’s judgement is one thing – and in the grander scheme of things, neither here nor there – but the longer this story rumbles on so the surer it is that attention will switch to the man who hired him. The point of a human shield is that you must be prepared to lose them if that proves necessary and this is something even Boris Johnson must be capable of grasping. It is his judgement that is now the issue.

The suspicion remains that somewhere, deep in their hearts, the cabinet’s collective reaction to this scandal – for such it is – is predicated on a still darker appreciation of an unwelcome political reality. Namely that the Prime Minister, whatever his other talents, is not actually up to the job of running the country in a moment such as this. I suspect they know this too and this leads them to a situation in which they decline to concede anything for fear that a single concession might topple the entire rickety edifice.Perhaps I am mistaken about that but I can see no other logical explanation for the manner in which the government has reacted to this story. There is an old rule in crisis management stating that you should always do quickly what you will be forced to do eventually anyway. That means sacking Cummings now and it is astonishing that this appears beyond Downing Street.You cannot – and again, this is elementary – run this crisis on a 'do as I say, not as I do' basis. And yet that is what the country is now expected to swallow. It is madness and a blunder of career-defining, perhaps even career-ruining, proportions.A joke, then, albeit not an especially amusing one. Surely someone in Downing Street can appreciate this? This is a shipwreck and all the smart people who say this will blow over or fail to 'cut through' with the public are, I think, sorely mistaken. This is not a difficult story to understand, which is why it is so very powerful.Again, and above all, this is a moral matter not a legal one and, by virtue of that, a much bigger and more profound affair. The Prime Minister has a simple choice: cut Dominic Cummings loose or be dragged down with him. This ought to be a pretty easy decision."
https://www.spectator.co.uk/writer/alex-massie
Thanks for posting that from The Spectator.
 
Too cowardly to quote my posts?

Thought you'd sneak a little dig in under the Radar did you?

Bless the naive red rosette wearing fake lefty, this old Mr Brexit non story has really wound you up hasn't it?

Are you sure it's not fake outrage? 🤔

My only disappointment is that the Mirror did not run a story on Gove to get you all spinning even faster😂

(Clarification for Wizard - the above statement isn't an endorsement of Cummings)

(Clarification for the Celtic fan - this is a Blackpool board - the abuse was only directed at your Nobbrrr mate)
Don,
calm down old chap. As I posted on Wizaard's 'Resignation' thread, Tory supporters should always come on here to vociferously defend their political views, but not this. This is a very high profile, senior advisor making the PM look stupid. He is seen to be looking down at everyone by not obeying the rules laid down for everyone by the Government he is paid to advise and support.
At least see the difference here. He is not someone who you should be prepared to die in a ditch for.
 
This is from Alex massie the Scotland Editor of the Spectator today. This is the Tory rag that Johnson once edited so you'd expect them to be supportive of the current Government line

"Most aspects of this present emergency are complex and resist easy solutions. Only a handful are elementary but one of these, and quite obviously so, is the Dominic Cummings affair. He must go and he must go now. There is no alternative, no other way out, no means by which this ship can be saved. The only question is the number of casualties Cummings will take with him.

Judged by the cabinet’s performance on social media this weekend, the answer to that question is also simple: all of them. It cannot be stressed too often that the government’s authority during this crisis is moral much more than it is legal. The lockdown measures were presented as a great national collective endeavour and they were accepted by the public on those terms too. Now it seems they were optional so long as, that is, you have the correct connections.

Advisors are, by definition, disposable. When they become the story, you cut them loose. That is the rule and it exists for a very good reason. Otherwise, attention soon shifts from the advisor to their masters. Right now, the government appears to believe Cummings is indispensable and, consequently, more important than the coherence and credibility of the government’s own messaging. That is quite a conclusion to reach and one unlikely to be shared by the general public.

This government now suffers from a credibility gap and the problem with such things is that, once opened and apparent, these gaps never close. The longer Cummings remains in post, the surer it is that the government will become, at best, a laughing stock.
It doesn’t even matter if what he did was appropriate or sensible or a reasonable means by which an awkward or complicated situation might best be managed. All that could be true and it wouldn’t change a thing. Perception is sometimes more important and here the perception is that there is one set of rules for government insiders and another, quite different, set of rules for everyone else. That is not just the perception, either, for it appears to be the reality too and will remain so, and be understood as such, for as long as Dominic Cummings remains in post. You may sympathise with his predicament – an unwell wife, a small child – all you like and it doesn’t change a thing.

Cabinet ministers, mysteriously, are setting fire to their own credibility and authority in defending Cummings. There are millions of people across the country who have made considerable sacrifices, borne significant hardship, during this lockdown. They have done so for the greater good, recognising that they must do their little bit as part of a much greater endeavour. Weddings have been postponed; funerals have been left unattended; families have been separated. Little of this experience has been easy and much of it has been hard.

It is baffling that the government appears unable to see the damage this story will do to its already rocky reputation. Cummings’s judgement is one thing – and in the grander scheme of things, neither here nor there – but the longer this story rumbles on so the surer it is that attention will switch to the man who hired him. The point of a human shield is that you must be prepared to lose them if that proves necessary and this is something even Boris Johnson must be capable of grasping. It is his judgement that is now the issue.

The suspicion remains that somewhere, deep in their hearts, the cabinet’s collective reaction to this scandal – for such it is – is predicated on a still darker appreciation of an unwelcome political reality. Namely that the Prime Minister, whatever his other talents, is not actually up to the job of running the country in a moment such as this. I suspect they know this too and this leads them to a situation in which they decline to concede anything for fear that a single concession might topple the entire rickety edifice.Perhaps I am mistaken about that but I can see no other logical explanation for the manner in which the government has reacted to this story. There is an old rule in crisis management stating that you should always do quickly what you will be forced to do eventually anyway. That means sacking Cummings now and it is astonishing that this appears beyond Downing Street.You cannot – and again, this is elementary – run this crisis on a 'do as I say, not as I do' basis. And yet that is what the country is now expected to swallow. It is madness and a blunder of career-defining, perhaps even career-ruining, proportions.A joke, then, albeit not an especially amusing one. Surely someone in Downing Street can appreciate this? This is a shipwreck and all the smart people who say this will blow over or fail to 'cut through' with the public are, I think, sorely mistaken. This is not a difficult story to understand, which is why it is so very powerful.Again, and above all, this is a moral matter not a legal one and, by virtue of that, a much bigger and more profound affair. The Prime Minister has a simple choice: cut Dominic Cummings loose or be dragged down with him. This ought to be a pretty easy decision."
https://www.spectator.co.uk/writer/alex-massie
That is an excellent article summing things up for Boris and his government to a T. I hope Boris sees the light and bites on the bullet otherwise he will be heading down a very slippery slope that could yet take him over a moral precipice.
 
Don,
calm down old chap. As I posted on Wizaard's 'Resignation' thread, Tory supporters should always come on here to vociferously defend their political views, but not this. This is a very high profile, senior advisor making the PM look stupid. He is seen to be looking down at everyone by not obeying the rules laid down for everyone by the Government he is paid to advise and support.
At least see the difference here. He is not someone who you should be prepared to die in a ditch for.
Which is precisely why I put the caviat in the post you quoted, to say that I didn't endorce Cummings! 😁
 
One of the reasons we were given for not using our cars during lockdown was that we would conceivably be putting emergency services at risk If we had an accident. There was at least one person in that car showing symptoms of the virus whilst undertaking a 250 mile drive. Thats the key workers the elderly the vulnerable and the public all potentially put at risk. And we’re told to use common sense....
 
So, just what does DumbDick have on Johnson?

Has he been siphoning money into offshore accounts, does he have another 12 illegitimate children he hasn't declared, or and what would create a national outrage ?-

Has he been molesting Larry the Cat ???
“No Boris, I said we need a three line whip, not a Feline Whip!”
 
That is an excellent article summing things up for Boris and his government to a T. I hope Boris sees the light and bites on the bullet otherwise he will be heading down a very slippery slope that could yet take him over a moral precipice.
I fear that Johnson plummeted from that precipice a long time ago!
 
If you drive 250/260 miles with a sick wife and a 4 year old child, it will undoubtedly necessitate a stop off for a toilet break. Let’s hope there is CCTV footage or other video evidence showing that he broke other social distancing rules.
He has, without doubt, undermined the public’s response to this pandemic and should be dismissed with immediate effect. If not, Sir Keir will nail him and his boss in Parliament next week.
 
Which is precisely why I put the caviat in the post you quoted, to say that I didn't endorce Cummings! 😁

Don you caveat all your posts!!!

It’s so that, like here when you’ve been caught with your pants down and been given a good spanking, you can claim “noooooo. I didn’t mean that. Look at my caveat”.

Busted 😂
 
This is from Alex massie the Scotland Editor of the Spectator today. This is the Tory rag that Johnson once edited so you'd expect them to be supportive of the current Government line

"Most aspects of this present emergency are complex and resist easy solutions. Only a handful are elementary but one of these, and quite obviously so, is the Dominic Cummings affair. He must go and he must go now. There is no alternative, no other way out, no means by which this ship can be saved. The only question is the number of casualties Cummings will take with him.

Judged by the cabinet’s performance on social media this weekend, the answer to that question is also simple: all of them. It cannot be stressed too often that the government’s authority during this crisis is moral much more than it is legal. The lockdown measures were presented as a great national collective endeavour and they were accepted by the public on those terms too. Now it seems they were optional so long as, that is, you have the correct connections.

Advisors are, by definition, disposable. When they become the story, you cut them loose. That is the rule and it exists for a very good reason. Otherwise, attention soon shifts from the advisor to their masters. Right now, the government appears to believe Cummings is indispensable and, consequently, more important than the coherence and credibility of the government’s own messaging. That is quite a conclusion to reach and one unlikely to be shared by the general public.

This government now suffers from a credibility gap and the problem with such things is that, once opened and apparent, these gaps never close. The longer Cummings remains in post, the surer it is that the government will become, at best, a laughing stock.
It doesn’t even matter if what he did was appropriate or sensible or a reasonable means by which an awkward or complicated situation might best be managed. All that could be true and it wouldn’t change a thing. Perception is sometimes more important and here the perception is that there is one set of rules for government insiders and another, quite different, set of rules for everyone else. That is not just the perception, either, for it appears to be the reality too and will remain so, and be understood as such, for as long as Dominic Cummings remains in post. You may sympathise with his predicament – an unwell wife, a small child – all you like and it doesn’t change a thing.

Cabinet ministers, mysteriously, are setting fire to their own credibility and authority in defending Cummings. There are millions of people across the country who have made considerable sacrifices, borne significant hardship, during this lockdown. They have done so for the greater good, recognising that they must do their little bit as part of a much greater endeavour. Weddings have been postponed; funerals have been left unattended; families have been separated. Little of this experience has been easy and much of it has been hard.

It is baffling that the government appears unable to see the damage this story will do to its already rocky reputation. Cummings’s judgement is one thing – and in the grander scheme of things, neither here nor there – but the longer this story rumbles on so the surer it is that attention will switch to the man who hired him. The point of a human shield is that you must be prepared to lose them if that proves necessary and this is something even Boris Johnson must be capable of grasping. It is his judgement that is now the issue.

The suspicion remains that somewhere, deep in their hearts, the cabinet’s collective reaction to this scandal – for such it is – is predicated on a still darker appreciation of an unwelcome political reality. Namely that the Prime Minister, whatever his other talents, is not actually up to the job of running the country in a moment such as this. I suspect they know this too and this leads them to a situation in which they decline to concede anything for fear that a single concession might topple the entire rickety edifice.Perhaps I am mistaken about that but I can see no other logical explanation for the manner in which the government has reacted to this story. There is an old rule in crisis management stating that you should always do quickly what you will be forced to do eventually anyway. That means sacking Cummings now and it is astonishing that this appears beyond Downing Street.You cannot – and again, this is elementary – run this crisis on a 'do as I say, not as I do' basis. And yet that is what the country is now expected to swallow. It is madness and a blunder of career-defining, perhaps even career-ruining, proportions.A joke, then, albeit not an especially amusing one. Surely someone in Downing Street can appreciate this? This is a shipwreck and all the smart people who say this will blow over or fail to 'cut through' with the public are, I think, sorely mistaken. This is not a difficult story to understand, which is why it is so very powerful.Again, and above all, this is a moral matter not a legal one and, by virtue of that, a much bigger and more profound affair. The Prime Minister has a simple choice: cut Dominic Cummings loose or be dragged down with him. This ought to be a pretty easy decision."
https://www.spectator.co.uk/writer/alex-massie
Yep.

That pretty much sums it up.
 
Well if the number of posts and depth of feeling is anything to go by then he will be gone by Tuesday surely?
It seems to be pretty much one way traffic to me?
 
the Scottish medical officer wont have been potted shes friends with Krankie.Same with Ferguson he is well connected through Imperial College.They can just carry on advising from behind the scenes.
 
That's the problem with being in a possition of authority, even if un-ellected. The authority goes down the tubes when you tell veryone to save the NHS and stay at home then set out to tailor make the rules to fit your personal agenda. I think that he is stuffed.
 
It would seem that the Govt front bench are bending over backwards to support Cummings.
What a complete bunch of hypocritical, nasty, anti-constitutional pieces of vermin we have at the top of Government. They are a disgrace to the good name and good, law abiding people of this country. God's teeth, who can honestly see credibility and honour in this lot now!
If I were a Labour MP I would be raising a point of order the very next time one of the Tory MPs has recourse to refer to one of the Treasury bench as 'my Right Honourable friend.' I would say, "Mr Speaker, there is nothing honourable about the member for X" and would stand my ground as I was expelled from the House.
 
It would seem that the Govt front bench are bending over backwards to support Cummings.
What a complete bunch of hypocritical, nasty, anti-constitutional pieces of vermin we have at the top of Government. They are a disgrace to the good name and good, law abiding people of this country.

Took the words right out my mouth!!

one of the Tory MPs has recourse to refer to one of the Treasury bench as 'my Right Honourable friend.'

My tourettes would take over and the 'real truth' of how I thought and think of them would come flooding out with relish and unbridled joy🤣 for a good 20 minutes at least!!!
 
It would seem that the Govt front bench are bending over backwards to support Cummings.
What a complete bunch of hypocritical, nasty, anti-constitutional pieces of vermin we have at the top of Government. They are a disgrace to the good name and good, law abiding people of this country. God's teeth, who can honestly see credibility and honour in this lot now!
If I were a Labour MP I would be raising a point of order the very next time one of the Tory MPs has recourse to refer to one of the Treasury bench as 'my Right Honourable friend.' I would say, "Mr Speaker, there is nothing honourable about the member for X" and would stand my ground as I was expelled from the House.
This is where Starmer really needs to step up. The ins and outs of the government’s response to covid are grey areas and difficult to critique with certainty.
Duplicity, lies and deceit are less grey.
Starmer needs to prove his metal now.
 
This is getting very interesting



Can't wait to hear how he explains this one. I expect an outright denial.
What a total prick ! No way out.
I thought the press did a pretty decent job of asking the right and relevant questions at tonight’s press conference, for a change. Credit where it’s due. Without reasonable and merited questioning this could have died an unjustified death 👍
 
He's toast 👍

Clever by the Mirror to run part one of the story, see his excuses, and then bury him with part 2. Boris needs to be very careful, this could bury him, too.

First rule of crisis management, deal with it soonest, the longer you take, the bigger the fallout
 
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