Those council officials were only there in the first place because of the trouble that The MSG and their barely teenage followers cause.
BST meeting with Julian Winter ; October 2023
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You're obviously a complete tit which is wonderful. I'll just say this, nobody will be speaking on behalf of anybody connected to The MSG, and should the time come when the BSA style cosying up that BST are attempting goes too far, there will be a lot of restless people out there. Now jog on you thick fuck
Yes of course they were, that was the point. And if only you'd spoken to them you would know what we know now. But unfortunately you're a bell end so you'll never know ... Bye pal
"Nobody will be speaking on behalf of anybody connected to the MSG"You're obviously a complete tit which is wonderful. I'll just say this, nobody will be speaking on behalf of anybody connected to The MSG, and should the time come when the BSA style cosying up that BST are attempting goes too far, there will be a lot of restless people out there. Now jog on you thick fuck
So who does the person who writes on the MSG X/Twitter page write on behalf of if not the MSG you complete tit?
LA1 Seasider
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Just to clear up your position then… and it appears you’re speaking up for the MSG…You're obviously a complete tit which is wonderful. I'll just say this, nobody will be speaking on behalf of anybody connected to The MSG, and should the time come when the BSA style cosying up that BST are attempting goes too far, there will be a lot of restless people out there. Now jog on you thick fuck
You (the MSG) don’t want to be involved in talking politics at the club.
You don’t think BST should be talking to the club.
You don’t think the current BST committee are representative of Blackpool Fans.
How exactly are the club supposed to engage ? Given there’s a group of willing volunteers in an organised and democratic group which meet the obligations placed on the club to engage with such a group…
I’m not a member of any group. If I’ve got questions I seek the information out and from time to time I put it to the SLO who 99% of the time gets me an answer one way or another. - That’s obviously not practical on a large scale.
What’s the solution the MSG see ? The club HAS to engage with the fans and fans groups. If there’s a group that meet the criteria (which BST seem to do) then why should that group be penalised because other groups don’t ? Surely the MSG, Muckers etc need to get their shit together if they want a seat at the table. It’s not BST or even BFC making the rules it would seem.
BFC_BFC_BFC
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I think it boils down to the approach in all honesty.
For example, the singling out of BST committee members and some of the language used comes across as intimidatory
and that is going to be a red line for the club, whichever way you look at it.
The problem you have is you think you know what's going on. There's far more to The MSG than you will ever understand. You haven't got a clue kid.
The club should engage with ALL fans. This can be done using modern technology. None of the groups represent the majority of the fan base. I don't see what is difficult. Every ticket holder is a stakeholder of BFC and should be treated the same. BST are attempting to hold the monopoly and it's not going to end well.
LA1 Seasider
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Jesus wept. If you can’t answer a question don’t just come up with a cryptic comment and a wink ffs. No wonder no one takes the MSG seriously.The problem you have is you think you know what's going on. There's far more to The MSG than you will ever understand. You haven't got a clue kid.
I was asked who by GJJW and so there is the response. All those names are in the public domain with BST links. There is no abuse just facts. The club would love to deal only with BST because they will never call them out on bullshit. BSA all over again
Move on kid, there's nothing to see here
LA1 Seasider
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BST aren’t attempting anything. The CLUB are reaching out to BST as the CLUB have to reach out to fan groups (constituted groups) as per FA rules. This obsession with BST is odd. The only barrier to the MSG, Muckers, Alan and his spaniel Rosie or whoever are barriers they themselves control
So I point out that your comments make no sense whatsoever and you try to make out that you're some kind of FY1 Illuminati.The problem you have is you think you know what's going on. There's far more to The MSG than you will ever understand. You haven't got a clue kid.
Showing you know nothing yet again
.... This board is a BST defence mechanism, I get that, but it won't change a thing.
GJJW
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But your reply wasn't right though yes? None of the current BST committee were mushrooms yes?
No kid, you're just pointing out what a dipstick you are, and doing a mighty fine job of it too
LA1 Seasider
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I’m literally asking you questions you goon. If you’re not able to give answers or aren’t holding the magic conch shell or whatever then fair enough - maybe you’re not permitted to answerShowing you know nothing yet again
Mike Latham is
Robbie Whittaker is
Don't give the clown answer that Whittaker is a secretary because either because that's just rubbish.
GJJW
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It's true that Robbie was never voted into the committee. He's the secretary. That's fact. He doesn't have a committee vote. I'm sorry that doesn't suit your agenda
It would appear that it's your word v Mike's also, and I can't comment on that as I don't know him.
You are somebody that wants to run everything by the book because the authorities (the same ones that did fuck all to help us against the Oystons) tell you that's how it has to be. Well, no it doesn't, there's always room for challenging the process. BST aren't challenging it, there going with it to the detriment of other supporters groups because it suits them and gives the likes of Whittaker and Latham a hardonI’m literally asking you questions you goon. If you’re not able to give answers or aren’t holding the magic conch shell or whatever then fair enough - maybe you’re not permitted to answer
And you're happy having somebody unelected even though that's what you claim of The MSG? And not only that, a proper mushroom who slated Blackpool fans and lied his arse off
GJJW
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I haven't said anything about the MSG!
Also, as long as Robbie is only helping out from an admin point if view then yes, I have no real issue with him not being elected. Rather him writing up minutes than me!
The obsession that the MSG have with BST is not odd at all. It's all about rejection. Several of their members cosied up first with the interim board and then with some recently departed board members. The club clearly got pissed off with all their antics and is now choosing to ignore them which leaves them feeling rejected, particularly as the club has decided to engage on a more meaningful level with BST.
Or to put it another way, the MSG have been dumped and now want to take it out on their exes new partner.
And you think he's only doing that?
.... The guy is a disgrace for what he did and said back then. How he was allowed to worm his way into that role shows how weak the others are for allowing it. Then again, who gave him the role?Yes, nail on the head
.... Move on son, we'll let you know the next steps in good time
GJJW
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I don't know what role he plays bar the official one of secretary.And you think he's only doing that?
As I've got older, I've learned to forgive and forget. Well, maybe not forget.
So what's your next step then? Another march to the traiining ground? More flares and sectarian chanting in the ground? Or do you finally have grounds to launch another boycott, which let's be honest is all you lot really want to do anyway?Yes, nail on the head
BFC_BFC_BFC
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I’m talking about the name calling and stuff that’s happening across other forms of Social Media.
It comes across like you want to force your will on everyone. And that anyone who holds a different opinion is subject to personal attacks.
If you want to “hold the Club to account” then nobody is stopping you from doing that.
However you are trying to stop other fans, fans who have legitimately joined BST from adopting their chosen approach.
Why do you think that’s acceptable?
LA1 Seasider
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And I think you’re someone that thinks Blackpool FC and its supporters exist in some sort of bubble. The club is a multi million pound business, which employs hundereds, impacts tens of thousands and generates millions to the local and national economy. As such it’s bound by rules and regulations in the same way any organisation of a similar size is. It’s also held accountable by organisations such as the FA, EFL and even FIFA to meet certain commitments- again in the same way B&Q, Footlocker and the big wind farms in the Irish Sea are.
Blackpool FC are a small fish in a big pond. Simon Sadler and the board aren’t here to tear up the rule book, behead the chairman of the EFL and usher in some new utopian footballing republic. They’re here to run a club as well as they can in the interests of the local and wider Blackpool community. If they can avoid losing too much money they’d take that too.
The club are going to play the game. Whether you and Fidel Castrongbow hope any differently.
And you know what. You’re actually entitled to be disappointed with that. But you’re not entitled to ruin it for those that don’t mind playing the game, joining in the meetings etc. Let BST be. Whinge all you want - but you know the rules and if you don’t want to stick to them then you’ll likely not be allowed to play. Like the petulant little toddlers MSG like to act like.
Who's trying to stop anybody joining BST? We are trying to stop BST pretending that they talk for all Blackpool fans. Social media gives a far more accurate account of the Blackpool fanbase than this messageboard.
seasideone
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I’m sorry - I was not going to reply again, but I will not have you lie about me.
…you are talking BS as I never attended a game bar one (Judgement day) during the boycott.
Stop making rubbish up
Jeez I sincerely hope not.
Please tell me why, the mouthpiece who runs the MSG Twitter page does not have a season ticket?
Shouldn't he commit to the club just a little bit? Or would he rather keep taking his club freebies that he gets hands on?
Or is he too important to contribute like the rest of us?
Phil_bfc deux
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Why on earth would you call for someone to be banned?
That's not very liberal of you
They do, 2 in fact
At least you've admitted to attending one. And there were others
It sure does. You don't think the outside world thinks like a lot of you geriatrics do you?
BFC_BFC_BFC
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I don’t mean stopping people joining BST, I’m talking about the fact that you are trying to prevent BST from engaging in a relationship with the Club.Trying to intimidate and pressurise BST committee members on Social Media. Etc..
Why do you think that’s OK ?
BST don’t pretend to talk for all Blackpool Fans, but you are trying to impose your will on all Blackpool Fans by not allowing others the freedom to choose their preferred way without your interference.
I think this site is as representative as any form of social media and certainly more representative than your own group of followers. I think what you mean is that you prefer to hear the voices of people who agree with you than those you don’t….
Anyway I’ve tried to give you an honest opinion…. I’ve no axe to grind either way.
seasideone
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Loads of us were at Judgement day
..and no there were not others - stop lying and talking bs.
LA1 Seasider
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Let me guess… you’re on here but you’re not like the rest of ‘us’It sure does. You don't think the outside world thinks like a lot of you geriatrics do you?
Mistake no.1 I’m afraid.
As different as our views are. You’re one of us. A sad man (or woman) throwing out meaningless opinions on to the internet and disagreeing with strangers.
Alternative hobbies are available though. Shouting at the sea is similar with similar outcomes. There’s a politics forum if you really want to dredge the depths
What the fuck does it matter what side anyone was on during the boycott years? It's over. Move on. Have a few pints, go to the match, have a few more pints and talk shit about the match but all the while be grateful that we got our club back rather than still wanting to pick fights with fellow fans.
Towerpower99
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I’m picturing all these groups walking steadily faster down a corridor to meet SS then all sticking elbows out and then breaking into a trot..then full pelt shouting Simon pick meee…
Phil_bfc deux
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You defended the Oystons for years over fellow fans who were protesting and involved in direct action campaigns
Please don't deny that as I actually remember you coming on this site and saying you backed the wrong horse
seasideone
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I never went to a game during the boycott apart from judgement day which you were at as well.
The real turning point for me was suing fans as I think it was for many.
1966_and_all_that
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Precisely. The clue is in the contradiction inherent in the suggestion. In other words I was being ironic.
You think he's shit for not boycotting to your timetable. I think you're a joke because you're another one of these that want to hold the club to account yet you haven't done your bit this year of buying a season ticket!
Phil_bfc deux
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I didn't say you did I'm saying you spent years defending the Oystons
Anyway when did you get voted onto the committee I can't remember the vote?
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Phil_bfc deux
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I didn't know you had to have a season ticket to do your bit
All a season ticket does is reserve you the same seat for something you may or may not use
2 home games @£120 tickets plus food and drink approx £50
2 kids kits @£130
In those 2 games I've spent more than the cost of one early bird season ticket
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The same BST who have used the SLO position of one of their members to encourage the club only to hold secret meetings with "constituted" groups ie. THEM ....
Anybody claiming to be intimidated by somebody pulling apart their little disguised closed shop is rather sad to be honest, and you're worse than them for being offended on their behalf. Get a fuckin grip