BFC_BFC_BFC
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So did loads of people though Phil…
Why does that matter?
We all sang ** songs about Oyston shagging other fans wives ffs.
How far back do we go with all this bollocks…?
BST meeting with Julian Winter ; October 2023
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Why does that matter?
We all sang ** songs about Oyston shagging other fans wives ffs.
How far back do we go with all this bollocks…?
Good on you but its still odd that you spend a hell of a lot more time on here talking about the club than you actually do attending it.
I think you may have missed my point. But never mind that probably happens to you a lot.It sure does. You don't think the outside world thinks like a lot of you geriatrics do you?
seasideone
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At the time of Prem I thought they had done well to get VB to fund the step up.
The history books show different and how they behaved towards him and many others was terrible.
…but the suing of fans was a step to far for me and most - and that’s the main reason why I boycotted.
I used to go with my dad before the boycott and we lost him during those years - he was desperate to go back to an Oyston free club - even though he knew time was against him.
That family robbed precious time off me spending at the footbal with my dad - and that above all else I will never forgive them for.
Phil_bfc deux
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Yeah and they all got it wrong, now the majority of these twats try and pretend it didn't happen and come on this site spouting absolute horse shite
Sadly, we have a section of the fanbase that got way more out of the boycott than they will ever get out of watching the team.
LA1 Seasider
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But. That’s. Not. True.
On a side note - Stone Island could make a fortune selling tinfoil bucket hats.
Phil_bfc deux
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Not really
Since the boycott years I've had 4 season tickets each season including the Covid season so not sure where you are getting your information from
Phil_bfc deux
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Don't talk bollocks
BFC_BFC_BFC
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I’m not offended by anything or on anyone’s behalf. Not in the slightest…
You asked me to explain why it’s becoming increasingly impossible for the club to engage with the MSG on the same footing as BST and so I’m trying to answer your question.
As you said yourself above, I’m simply saying it how it is.
I’m not your enemy here at all… In fact I’ve gone out of my way to be supportive wherever I can, but you either want the TRUTH or you don’t
fcblackpool
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Should the group(s) boycott any meetings with the Club until the Club agrees to stream the meetings live?
After all these meetings are supposed to be a 2 way street.
After all these meetings are supposed to be a 2 way street.
I find this sort of stuff very boring but if you are a member of a supporters group that isn't BST and you want to be in the know and make your voice heard I suppose you could join BST aswell. Make your points to their leadership and ultimately the club.
That's enough from me, I'll quit this thread before I have to get involved a discussion about committees and taking minutes!
That's enough from me, I'll quit this thread before I have to get involved a discussion about committees and taking minutes!
Phil_bfc deux
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I'm obviously neutral on this but I can see the issue that some fans dont likeI’m not offended by anything or on anyone’s behalf. Not in the slightest…
You asked me to explain why it’s becoming increasingly impossible for the club to engage with the MSG on the same footing as BST and so I’m trying to answer your question.
As you said yourself above, I’m simply saying it how it is.
I’m not your enemy here at all… In fact I’ve gone out of my way to be supportive wherever I can, but you either want the TRUTH or you don’t
It appears to me that BST have manoeuvred themselves into a position with the club that they get sole dialogue with the club
It's just like BSA days
And we were told this wouldn't be the case
Good point Phil, because of work I'll attend just 7 or 8 games in the Moretti lounge, my minimum spend will be £252. Add on the extra I'll spend on refreshments and my Tangerine TV subscription and I'll be spending much more in support of the club than many early bird season ticket holders.
fcblackpool
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LA1 Seasider
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Have they (BST) manoeuvred or have the other groups failed to manoeuvre in order to meet the club ?
I’m not sure BST should be criticised for doing what’s required of them and basically making it easy for the club to meet their commitments to the FA.
If other groups had done the same and followed BST’s lead there would be literally no issue - and they would too be at the same table - or am I missing something?
*and for clarity when I say follow BST’s lead I mean be a constituted, democratic and transparent group that meets the criteria the FA seem to put out for fan groups that clubs have to meet.
How many other clubs stream this sort of bollocks live?
Fuck me, we have some proper needy fans.
Have a pint. Watch match. Have another pint and talk shit about march. Go home and repeat up to 50 odd times a year.
What gets discussed in these meetings that really matters so much?
Why do so many people give a fuck about these bullshit meetings?
Phil_bfc deux
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1966_and_all_that
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And to be fair Phil you have come across as very neutral on this thread.
Phil_bfc deux
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It matters because we had ** years of having a cuntish family owning our great club
It's only natural that we have fans who are more engaged with club politics after what we have been through
I'm glad we do care enough to have these discussions
1966_and_all_that
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Moreover, why does anyone care enough to come on here questioning why people give a f*** about these BS meetings?
fcblackpool
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Firstly drop this shit about what other Clubs do! That the attitude that sees the Club follow formula pricing.
Why stream? Transparency. If X group is having a meeting then the Club should allow all fans to view given the X group is a minority of the fanbase.
But that family is long gone.
And the current owner is pretty much as good as we're going to get.
So everyone should stop fighting like its 2016 and just enjoy the ride (whilst being ready to mobilise again IF needed).
Phil_bfc deux
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And to be fair I don't really give two fucks what you say on this matter
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Phil_bfc deux
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It was 2013/ 2014 when most of us started 'fighting'
If you only started fighting in 2016 you were late to the party
Why do you expect our club to act so differently than others? Football clubs are run in a fair similar manner.
And what sort of business streams meetings? It's a ridiculous tinpot idea.
BFC_BFC_BFC
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So what ?
One way or another we all got it wrong…
We all basques in the Premier League Glory… All sang it was “The Best Trip We’d Ever Been On”
It’s over and we have had a new start.
Wizaard
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In your world you wanted Critchley out and probably still do. In the real world 9,000 are chanting Neil Critchley's Tangerine Army every week.
Shame some are still fighting the enemy that no longer exists. As I said earlier, some of our fans got more out of the boycott than they will evercget out of following the team
1966_and_all_that
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Obviously touched a nerve. Why else would you stoop to putting my name on here. A bit low my friend. If you can't take the brickbats stay off the board.
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fcblackpool
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And a fair few are in the shit!
So a Club which prides itself as being in the heart of the community should treat meetings as 'business'? You can't believe that?
No, I'm sure you don't so I'll apologise in advance.
Wizaard
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How many times has the club put out clear messages? Dozens of times, including this week.
If they haven't taken it on board by now then they must suffer the consequences.
Idiots who are getting us all a bad name and costing literally hundreds of thousands of pounds in fines that would be better spent elsewhere.
Give how barking mad our fanbase is, the club would have a Jackie Weaver moment if we started streaming these meetings and would become a global laughing stock.
'LythamKev you have no authority..."
Phil_bfc deux
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I still don't rate him as much as he rates himself
Phil_bfc deux
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Didn't you call me by my name first?
1966_and_all_that
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The name Phil is in your username. I have no idea if that is your name. My name is not part of my username. I have used it in PM messages as a mark of genuineness towards those I am addressing. That's all.
Phil_bfc deux
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But the SLO collates the questions and puts them forward based on nothing more than his opinion on if they are worthwhile to ask
I don't trust him as much as I could throw him
He told me last week he was completely independent, only for me to find out he was a lifelong member of BST and an ex BST committee man
Independent my arse ....
Why do you care about all this?
You don't really seem the committee type so why not just ignore those that want to have meetings and talk about meetings?
Phil_bfc deux
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Yeah so that's your name I've no problem calling you by at as you called me by mine
To be honest this place would be much better if everyone used their real names
1966_and_all_that
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No, the problem's all mine.
Phil_bfc deux
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Because I actually think its important that we have an open transparent football club where all fans who want to be involved can be
It really isn't too much to ask
But it's all bollocks because one man owns the whole club and any number of fans can have as many meetings as they can organise but at the end of the day what he says goes and unless he really fucks up there's no point in the rest of us worrying about it.
Wizaard
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No he doesn't. He removes duplicates, as he explicitly said.
And everyone knew he used to be on the BST committee apart from you, it appears.
BFC_BFC_BFC
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It’s pretty obvious (or at least it ought to be) that the club couldn’t be seen to condone some of the stuff going on on Social Media. You know that Phil, you’re not daft!
I don’t think BST have manoeuvred themselves into a position where they get sole dialogue, but I do think they look to be engaged in a closer working relationship than others.
In many ways, the MSG have probably enjoyed a closer relationship than most with the Club up until recently and I didn’t see anyone complaining then.
For whatever reason (and I’d imagine that the threats to tip up at the Training Ground was the final straw) I think Simon has called time on that. That’s his choice I suppose.
I’ve no doubt the club will engage on some footing, but I don’t see much chance of them ever being as close as they were… and the prospect of that edges further away with every Social Media post to be honest.
I no don’t think BST are like BSA to be honest… And I think generally speaking they’re a force for good.
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Phil_bfc deux
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Not every question that gets submitted gets asked at the meetings
Wizaard
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Time constraints?
Phil_bfc deux
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Who decides then if it isn't the bloke who collated the questions?
TwelveAngryMen
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Three of the four applicants had been or were current BST committee members at the time of their interviews
Three of those four applicants now make up the SLO team - the only one who doesn't is Higgy who is current BST Chair
So for Michael Bolingbroke to have chosen anyone other than an applicant with a BST history would have been fairly unlikely - the ' non-BST affiliated applicant it should be noted hadn't been actively involved in the protest movement in any way and therefore trying to be objective his CV was lighter than the other applicants
That doesn't mean he couldn't have done the job but MB's decision not to prefer him was to me logical
But Phil knows all this from the last thread on the same topic
Wizaard
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The club from the list of questions submitted would be the logical answer.