England v Denmark Official Matchnight Thread 07.07.21

Was it a penalty... wasnt it?

Who cares when we've had luck like this in the past.

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I feel sorry for young Schmeichel but have to agree with Neville and Wright, he wasn't too good with the penalty.

That's twice in one night I find myself agreeing with Ian Wright.
 
When you look back at their goal it should have been disallowed. The rule is you can't put your own wall within a yard of the defending wall. Just before the kick was taken, they moved over to obstruct Pickford's vision. Should have been retaken.
 
Gabriel Clarke has been there that long, I was interviewed by him in Turin in 1980 after England fans were teargassed by the Italian police. He asked inane questions then as well.
 
hertfordseasider said:
They did close it down brilliantly. MOM Sterling, again, Man of the tournament for me. but I hate super negative tactics

History and a massive night on Sunday. it's going to be a cracker. Watched it home tonight, 4 of us, but off to Brewboard brewery to watch it on Sunday night going to be buzzing.
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Is it more massive than the England cricket, Olympics, Rugby Union, and Ryder Cup golf yet? 😉
 
Re Kane's penalty, he and Schmeichel were at Leicester together in 2013. Keepers will know the tells from training together.
 
Wizaard said:
Gabriel Clarke has been there that long, I was interviewed by him in Turin in 1980 after England fans were teargassed by the Italian police. He asked inane questions then as well.
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I'm not accusing you of doing fake news like that t1t last night but are you sure it was him ?
 
Wizaard said:
Re Kane's penalty, he and Schmeichel were at Leicester together in 2013. Keepers will know the tells from training together.
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But he usualy does that and blasts it into the top corner.

Luckily Schmeichel said.... that's not like you Harry have another go.
 
We were lucky to get the penalty. Personally I don't really care after all the crap we've lost to in my 46 years. Maradona handball, penalty shootout defeats, the Lampard non goal that was half a metre over the line v Germany, Beckham being sent off because of a cheat, Campbell's header that was a goal and never a foul, Gazza getting booked and crying. Nah I'm sorry Denmark but I'm taking it.

Yes most were World cups because we were gash in Euro comps but I'm taking the penalty and going to enjoy watching us in our first major final in my lifetime. Thankyou!
 
Macseasider said:
We were lucky to get the penalty. Personally I don't really care after all the crap we've lost to in my 46 years. Maradona handball, penalty shootout defeats, the Lampard non goal that was half a metre over the line v Germany, Beckham being sent off because of a cheat, Campbell's header that was a goal and never a foul, Gazza getting booked and crying. Nah I'm sorry Denmark but I'm taking it.

Yes most were World cups because we were gash in Euro comps but I'm taking the penalty and going to enjoy watching us in our first major final in my lifetime. Thankyou!
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The ref gave it to stop you moaning MAC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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20togo said:
Is it more massive than the England cricket, Olympics, Rugby Union, and Ryder Cup golf yet? 😉
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Bigger than the Golf and Rugby, on a par with the Olympics, still think the cricket wins!! 😉 That little Manc Gnome made a comment before the game when they showed the team in 96 singing the national anthem. He said Southgate Loved playing for his club but adored playing for his country, Neville, who wasn't singing at all said he adored playing for his club and loved playing for his country. That's how I feel about Blackpool & England, I love and adore BFC but just love England like a friend. I think the Neville, Gerrard era knocked the stuffing out of me and it has taken Gareth Southgate and an England team who at last want to play for the shirt, love every minute of it, get on as a team and friends. It shows and you have to give Southgate great credit for that. Is he negative? Yes? But it's working, and our attackers are top drawer.
 
Sooty59 said:
I thought the same. But attack is the best form of defence.
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Nearly got the 3rd near the end but for me Denmark were virtually gone in extra time and the game was only going 1 way, so I think we would win with most combinations.
 
JJpool said:
Nearly got the 3rd near the end but for me Denmark were virtually gone in extra time and the game was only going 1 way, so I think we would win with most combinations.
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We were playing 10 men for 15 minutes which doesn't seem to have got much of a mention.
 
You know, being an older cynical type who was 7 when England won the World Cup and probably spending half the game bored and playing in the alley next to Grandma and Grandad’s house on Gorton Street whilst everyone was inside, lucky enough to be able to watch on a black and white telly!

It’s easy to sneer at all the news pictures of youngsters going ape, chucking ale in the air and generally going bananas! I’m used to England promising so much and delivering very little over the years, but the youngsters don’t have that monkey on their back, this is all brand new and a brand new experience.

It’s a new world, it belongs to the young, it’s time for England to give them some great memories, so for their sake more than my frizzled soured own, come on England, lets get the job done!
 
Bottle said:
You know, being an older cynical type who was 7 when England won the World Cup and probably spending half the game bored and playing in the alley next to Grandma and Grandad’s house on Gorton Street whilst everyone was inside, lucky enough to be able to watch on a black and white telly!

It’s easy to sneer at all the news pictures of youngsters going ape, chucking ale in the air and generally going bananas! I’m used to England promising so much and delivering very little over the years, but the youngsters don’t have that monkey on their back, this is all brand new and a brand new experience.

It’s a new world, it belongs to the young, it’s time for England to give them some great memories, so for their sake more than my frizzled soured own, come on England, lets get the job done!
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My nana and grandads house was on Gorton street !
What number????
 
Well we finally did it, we didn't bottle the semi final. This team and manager are made of sterner stuff, because I thought for a semi final against a highly determined side full of belief, we were fantastic. We played with intelligence, patience and managed to get behind a defence that sat back quite a lot during the game. From the moment Sterling missed that first chance, we were great.

I don't know why anyone would think Denmark would be an easy game - any side that reaches that stage has to be a good side, and you're never going to ease past anyone at that stage. But we showed brilliant character to come back from the setback of going a goal down, and we didn't buckle under the pressure and expectation of 60,000 fans.

Three further points. Firstly, I'm really surprised at some of the criticism for some of Southgate's decisions. I thought he got it spot on, and he took off Grealish to get the job done because he knew we didn't need to go for a third. Fans love to see the team go for the kill, but I think you need to be pragmatic in huge games like that, and often it will pay dividends like tonight. In taking Grealish off we were able to close the match down with relative ease, and at one point towards the end our ball retention for a good few minutes was superb.
England have won 11 tournament knockout games since 1966, and Gareth Southgate has led us to 5 of those. Not bad! I thought he was being too negative in the group stages, but we have really grown in to this tournament and we're actually getting better. I don't think we've hit top gear yet either, and we'll probably need to to win on Sunday.

Secondly - Raheem Sterling. Absolutely brilliant tonight. It'll be interesting to see how the Italians try to defend against him, because when in the mood he's pretty much unplayable.

Thirdly - It was never a pen. But we thoroughly deserved to win, and I can't say i'm even slightly bothered we made it via a lucky decision when we have barely had any luck for 40 years in major tournaments. Do you think Germany cared Lampard's goal wasn't given? Or Argentina cared the hand of god counted? All teams that make the latter stages of tournaments tend to get a bit of fortune along the way.

So another 90 minutes of major stress awaits, and I can't wait! Come on England!!!
 
Lala said:
My nana and grandads house was on Gorton street !
What number????
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Dunno Lala but a ginnell ran down the side and there were some backstreet workshops nearby, one of the made “3D” cards of an eye that “winked” and I recall seeing hundreds of them scattered down the alley! Near Butler Street I reckon - long long time ago kid!
 
Bottle said:
Dunno Lala but a ginnell ran down the side and there were some backstreet workshops nearby, one of the made “3D” cards of an eye that “winked” and I recall seeing hundreds of them scattered down the alley! Near Butler Street I reckon - long long time ago kid!
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Mine were at number 40, actually faced Butler street.
A ginnel about 2 houses away.
Reckon our grandparents we’re probably neighbours, mine were there from 1943 ish to 1992 ish.

Spent many a Saturday there being fed boiled eggs and soldiers and and playing gin rummy with my grandad in the 70’s.
Happy days 🥰
 
BFC_53 said:
Well we finally did it, we didn't bottle the semi final. This team and manager are made of sterner stuff, because I thought for a semi final against a highly determined side full of belief, we were fantastic. We played with intelligence, patience and managed to get behind a defence that sat back quite a lot during the game. From the moment Sterling missed that first chance, we were great.

I don't know why anyone would think Denmark would be an easy game - any side that reaches that stage has to be a good side, and you're never going to ease past anyone at that stage. But we showed brilliant character to come back from the setback of going a goal down, and we didn't buckle under the pressure and expectation of 60,000 fans.

Three further points. Firstly, I'm really surprised at some of the criticism for some of Southgate's decisions. I thought he got it spot on, and he took off Grealish to get the job done because he knew we didn't need to go for a third. Fans love to see the team go for the kill, but I think you need to be pragmatic in huge games like that, and often it will pay dividends like tonight. In taking Grealish off we were able to close the match down with relative ease, and at one point towards the end our ball retention for a good few minutes was superb.
England have won 11 tournament knockout games since 1966, and Gareth Southgate has led us to 5 of those. Not bad! I thought he was being too negative in the group stages, but we have really grown in to this tournament and we're actually getting better. I don't think we've hit top gear yet either, and we'll probably need to to win on Sunday.

Secondly - Raheem Sterling. Absolutely brilliant tonight. It'll be interesting to see how the Italians try to defend against him, because when in the mood he's pretty much unplayable.

Thirdly - It was never a pen. But we thoroughly deserved to win, and I can't say i'm even slightly bothered we made it via a lucky decision when we have barely had any luck for 40 years in major tournaments. Do you think Germany cared Lampard's goal wasn't given? Or Argentina cared the hand of god counted? All teams that make the latter stages of tournaments tend to get a bit of fortune along the way.

So another 90 minutes of major stress awaits, and I can't wait! Come on England!!!
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Great summary, but for the pen everyone was looking at the initial tackle but the second player came barging in and made a relatively easy decision for the ref. Kane got his body too far under the ball on the pen, great save, but Kane’s momentum carried him to the right spot to slot it in. If he had hit it right then I reckon the save would still have been made and no follow up would have happened - on such small things the world turns eh!
 
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