Gnanduillet

It is true he did, he scores goals and can win defensive headers but his all round play is often average at best. He is slow off the mark and often has a bad touch.

Gets us goals though so as of now we need him.
 
Couldn't go today, how was the Madine Gnado partnership?

As it really didn't work at Oxford.
 
Harsh on Gnads and to some extent Madine who didn’t get much of the ball but when he did he looked quite tidy. AG “only” scored his ( 11th and 12th - edit: 13th 14th that is, sorry Gnads stale stats! ) goals of the season in the League, what more do you want from your big frontman?

I think both are long mean and lean and they both look a bit leggy on the ball, but their physique makes the look ungainly where in truth they both have a decent touch.

How two players with similar attributes playing together up front might not work in the end, but if we can keep getting balls into the box then either could capitalise (or neither) it’s a gamble that could pay off and three goals in two games between them might indicate that it will.
 
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I think the phrase
"Couldn't trap a bag of cement" was written about Groot. he lays the ball off his chest, & generally heads well, but with the ball at his feet, he either lost it or passed it to them... but he scored two goals & he was in the right place at the right time.. deserves his place in the 11
 
I find gnanduillet lazy most games. He’s ok WHEN he’s in the box with his head but every time he has the ball at his feet he loses it to the opposition. So frustrating to watch
 
He's scored SEVENTEEN goals now, which given the pretty unanimous opinion that we've only actually played well about 3 times is decent going. He wasn't far off having four goals today.
 
michellebutterflyhotel said:
I find gnanduillet lazy most games. He’s ok WHEN he’s in the box with his head but every time he has the ball at his feet he loses it to the opposition. So frustrating to watch
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You need to watch the games more carefully.Lazy?He runs the length of the pitch to get back and help in defense,which he does very well.Consistant scorer for us too.
 
Our top scorer by a mile, lots of clubs circling for his signature & we have fans who would drop him. Without his goals we would be staring relegation in the face.
 
I think, as Chissie said, Gnando is a great asset defensively. He wins more headers in his own box than he does in the opposition box.
 
I don't understand all the criticism of Gnando, he always puts in a full shift both defensively and upfront, he has amassed 17 goals so far this season, and is obviously a complete nuisance to opponents as they try to mark him out of the game.

Question, why are fans always clamouring for a 20 a season goal scorer and then call the one we have presently, fit to burn?

I agree, as I have said on another thread, that he is a bit of an enigma particularly when he seems unable to control the ball at his feet, but so long as he keeps popping them in, the goals that is, he will do for me. 👍
 
Our fans are the real enigma, all this chanting and happy clappiness built on a solid bedrock of misery, blame and negativity. Far more negative attributes than Gnanduillet. It's getting ridiculous. If he goes on to score thirty goals this season we will still have fans saying his touch is terrible and we won't miss him.

Gentle reminder, the key aim in football is to score goals. How come Gnanduillet gets all this criticism, and Fonz gets virtually none? Which of the two is the more effective striker? Clue: check the goals column.
 
His control of the ball is so gash it’s bound to irritate the fans as it usually rolls out of play when he is in an amazing position and because of his major goal scoring attributes with his head and chest it encouraged a pattern of play that lead to many defeats irrespective of his goals scored. I can see why he gets all the stick as a result.

with a more balanced play approach like yesterday he can still get goals but we will win more games as a result. Win win!
 
clappers said:
His control of the ball is so gash it’s bound to irritate the fans as it usually rolls out of play when he is in an amazing position and because of his major goal scoring attributes with his head and chest it encouraged a pattern of play that lead to many defeats irrespective of his goals scored. I can see why he gets all the stick as a result.

with a more balanced play approach like yesterday he can still get goals but we will win more games as a result. Win win!
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I love the way the 17 goal striker gets blamed for all the defeats! It's kind of funny.
 
His hold up and link play was quite good yesterday. And it always LOOKS better when he has midfield players who are capable of getting close to him and joining in the play. That has been the big difference for me ; we have a couple of youngsters who get into advanced positions on a regular basis.
 
You can’t deny he has qualities in both boxes, and yes he is our leading scorer by miles, a footballer he certainly ain’t.
would I drop him from the starting eleven? Would I F***.
 
voyeur said:
I love the way the 17 goal striker gets blamed for all the defeats! It's kind of funny.
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Not blaming the player voy...more the managers decision making which is clear to me to have been over reliance on Gnando skills with his head to the detriment of all other options and which appears to have been rectified with the new players and pattern of play on view yesterday (even though it was another header!). He will probably get more goals with more attack options elsewhere in the team.

I’m quite happy with Gnando in the side and he won’t be here next season as he will get his move elsewhere.
 
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I think with Gary Madine ( he’s a goal machine, got him on a free) we have a “Proper” centre forward who can hold the ball up and lay it off - something which Gnando doesn’t do too well. However, imagine being the opposition centre halves and asking who you are up against - Armand Gnanduillet and Gary Madine - “oh shit”
 
I'm sure a few clubs have watched him but quite telling that apart from Charlton, no-one else has put a firm bid in. You could watch him a few times and he will be awful. Guess that's his problem, a lack of consistency.
 
Yes he scores goals, but we have to play to his strengths which does not make for good football, we play one when which is very predictable , and with Grayson in charge no other attacking options, sorry get rid
 
If Gnando could trap the ball like Messi & pass it like Beckham, I think it would be a struggle to keep him on the books after this season.
 
If Gnando just did the basics he would be a Championship player but he just lacks that composure on the ball which would take him to the next level.
 
Ive said many times, he isn't my cup of tea at all. What winds me up about him is his effort or the perception he tries to put out that he is actually putting it in. He will chase or press a ball or man to the point that he knows he will never actually get there always going just above a jog but never a sprint trying to kid on that he is putting it in. It does my head in, he also has a habit (or a skill) of always moving away from where it would be on him to try to tackle someone or close someone down. That's on top of his really poor touch and hold up play and general footballing ability. What i will give him is his ability in letting the ball hit his head and bounce in the goal. Having said all that its hard to criticise a striker who is scoring goals although I think ive had a good go at it ha ha.
Madine is his replacement for next season and is an obvious upgrade on him
 
I don't think it's obvious. It might turn out to be the case, but only if his goals and assists say so. Goalscorers are the most expensive players to buy and to pay. People here are still undervaluing what Gnando is doing in terms of scoring goals. Why cant Fonz score goals? Or anybody else for that matter? You cant say all Gnando does is score goals, he's useless at everything else, and expect to be taken seriously, in my opinion.
 
Gnands is probably having what will be the best season his career and we should milk it. He could easily get us 25 plus this season. Yes he is limited with the ball at his feet and tends to turn slower than a sloth on pot. However I think he puts the effort in, certainly more than a fair number of strikers I could list from over the years. And he knows how to be a physical threat that unsettles defences.

Gnands is ours, he is on scoring form and i think he deserves support. Personally I don’t care if they go in off his shin, back of his head or the left cheek of his backside. He has one main job and he’s doing it. More important than worrying about a striker who is scoring is that the coaching staff get Madine firing too, or sort out a consistent plan for midfield to control games and keep Gnands supplied.
 
They don't go in off his shin, back of his head or the left cheek of his backside though! He heads them in and he smashes the shots in. He is a great header of a ball, and a great striker of a ball. In case people haven't noticed. Which apparently quite a few haven't. If our other strikers could do the same, they'd be as good as him!
 
I agree Voy, I definitely have no problem with his ability to finish cos he’s bloody good at it. Just think how many more he could get though if he did use his ar$e and shins too! Like you I’m not sure what people are looking for but Gnands is going to be our leading scorer this season and it won’t be through luck.
 
Have often wondered if he is just a maverick who actually couldn't care less who he plays for, who he plays with and what people think of him as long as he does it for himself. Always thought he must be a nightmare to play alongside.
 
Larryknows said:
Ive said many times, he isn't my cup of tea at all. What winds me up about him is his effort or the perception he tries to put out that he is actually putting it in. He will chase or press a ball or man to the point that he knows he will never actually get there always going just above a jog but never a sprint trying to kid on that he is putting it in. It does my head in, he also has a habit (or a skill) of always moving away from where it would be on him to try to tackle someone or close someone down. That's on top of his really poor touch and hold up play and general footballing ability. What i will give him is his ability in letting the ball hit his head and bounce in the goal. Having said all that its hard to criticise a striker who is scoring goals although I think ive had a good go at it ha ha.
Madine is his replacement for next season and is an obvious upgrade on him
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I'm sorry, but this is complete rubbish. I've lost count of the number of times he has run a channel this season, and made up a yard or more on a defender to get to the ball first. His first touch and lay-off play are both erratic, but he has not been helped until recently by having no-one within ten yards of him to lay the ball off to.

As for going around at a jog, have you seen him move when the ball is going over to Feeney and the latter has space? On Saturday I watched him lay the ball off to Spearing forty yards from goal, and then sprint into the box for Feeney to aim at - but the cross was overhit. It was very much like the move for the winner at Doncaster, actually.

I can cope with people criticising him, but you seem to have decided you don't like him and then made up some "facts" to suit. Southend fans I talked to on Saturday night dread playing him and thought we had done well to hang onto him in the transfer window. Perhaps his skills are a bit more obvious when you are on the receiving end.
 
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