Jake Daniels - every credit

Proud of Jake, the club and all the positivity from others.
Only good can come from this, he can play his football with his mind open, loved the comment saying others can shout what they want, but I am getting paid to play football.
 
Freckleton Jess said:
Let’s be honest here, rivalaries aside, I think the nobbers would have no desire to fan any flames.
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I posted at the time, the homophobic and misogynistic chant has no place in football and reported my concerns to PNE and the EFL; that's before having the first idea that one of our players is gay.

I'm just a bit sick of bigotry masquerading as banter.

It's why I'm so pleased that we've dropped the Mosque chant.

We need to reflect on the "here for the gay bars" chant and drop it. They need to drop theirs.

We shouldn't need one of or own coming out to catalyse it; but if ever we should set a higher standard; it's now.

As for the Nobbers, they never cease to underwhelm me, so I'll not hold my breath.
 
hertfordseasider said:
What a great season, 30 goals, first team debut, the future is tangerine. We have a real talent on our hands, I hope he keeps progressing and turns into a multi million pound footballer who stays with the mighty and helps us to the promised land.

What a mature interview and you are part of the tangerine family Jake lad, you have nothing to fear, you have the world at your feet, well done young man, I'm proud of you.

Oh, and Philtrois and Adams Kebab, WTF is the matter with the pair of you?
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There’s nothing wrong with them. Neither has said anything negative about the boy’s sexuality. Suggest you concentrate on your positive words about the young man and stop trying to nitpick other people’s comments
 
Willie Mcgrotty said:
I've worked with many gays over the years & never given it a second thought. Unfortunately with sport, especially the tribalism that encompasses football, Jake could still get plenty of chanting grief. Until he's transferred to their club, scores his first goal & becomes a hero.
Don't we all love the shallow hypocrisy of being a football fan. I'm one, no one was more tainted that Tony Ellis until he scored his first BFC goal.
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Chant back as a totally inclusive club louder and prouder.
Uptmp 🌈
 
TSSeasider said:
I posted at the time, the homophobic and misogynistic chant has no place in football and reported my concerns to PNE and the EFL; that's before having the first idea that one of our players is gay.

I'm just a bit sick of bigotry masquerading as banter.

It's why I'm so pleased that we've dropped the Mosque chant.

We need to reflect on the "here for the gay bars" chant and drop it. They need to drop theirs.

We shouldn't need one of or own coming out to catalyse it; but if ever we should set a higher standard; it's now.

As for the Nobbers, they never cease to underwhelm me, so I'll not hold my breath.
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TSS, seeing as 100% of fans (as represented by the posters on here) back this young man then I’ve no idea who sings “here for the Gay Bars” but I’ve heard it chanted many times. As you say you (not you personally) can’t call others to a standard you don’t uphold yourself. But I can guarantee it now won’t get chanted anymore.
 
Bloodtangerine said:
TSS, seeing as 100% of fans (as represented by the posters on here) back this young man then I’ve no idea who sings “here for the Gay Bars” but I’ve heard it chanted many times. As you say you (not you personally) can’t call others to a standard you don’t uphold yourself. But I can guarantee it now won’t get chanted anymore.
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New chant...

"You're only here for the donkeys, here for the donkeys"
 
Bloodtangerine said:
TSS, seeing as 100% of fans (as represented by the posters on here) back this young man then I’ve no idea who sings “here for the Gay Bars” but I’ve heard it chanted many times. As you say you (not you personally) can’t call others to a standard you don’t uphold yourself. But I can guarantee it now won’t get chanted anymore.
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I agree completely.

Hopefully from now on it may just have fewer 'of us' singing it and therefore just peters out and eventually those who start the chant think it's not worth the effort as nobody joins in.

At that point, we would be ina much stronger position to challenge it.

There's a way to go though as plenty will fundamentally disagree with it being a homophobic chant.
 
Genuinely so proud of Jake and even prouder that he's one of our own, can only hope his on field impact will be as big as his off field impact.

It says a lot about not only Jake himself, but the club as well in that a positive environment has been built up enough for him to do this. Also the fact that it seems like they've been planning this for weeks and not a soul leaked the information, allowing Jake to control the narrative.

Progress 🍊
 
Don't think it's as a big deal as some people make out but since he is the first hope he has a pr company with a statagie to wring the cash from the situation or is that too crass?
 
If he is as brave on the pitch as he is with this statement he will do for me.
Congratulations Jake. You are clearly a sensible well grounded youg man . Good luck to you in football and in life.
 
Not really bothered if he’s gay or not but can’t of been easy for him to come out like this at any age never mind 17. Shows very strong character which hopefully will help him in his career.
 
Welcome back AVFTT, couldn't get on at all yesterday.

More importantly is the announcement by Jake. It must be very difficult for a young man to do what he has done so early in his career, and I fully support him.

Jake there will be knockers, but take no notice of them, just show us all that it matters not what colour your skin is, what religion you are or whether you are straight or gay. Just keep knocking that ball in the net. I'm convinced you will have the total backing of all at Bloomfield Road.

Good luck.
 
TSSeasider said:
I agree completely.

Hopefully from now on it may just have fewer 'of us' singing it and therefore just peters out and eventually those who start the chant think it's not worth the effort as nobody joins in.

At that point, we would be ina much stronger position to challenge it.

There's a way to go though as plenty will fundamentally disagree with it being a homophobic chant.
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I’m not an overly sensitive type and I do think about a lot if things “it’s only a joke” BUT I accept that some jokes could have more likelihood to genuinely hurt a group of people’s feelings regardless of intention.

That chant is unarguably homophobic because it is criticising and belittling the opposition fans that rather than come to suooort their team they have come to engage in homosexual activities which by nature if the chant is a very bad thing both to be laughed at and ridiculed for. Have I sung it?…..yes of course many times without giving a second thought to who it may offend……my point is that a hell of a lot of people on here will have too.

So it’s ok having a thread with 500 people agreeing it’s brave the lad coming out (which it is although nowadays he shouldn’t have to be brave go do so) BUT the fact Is it’s powerful because it causes many people like me to just pause and think of what we sometimes say/chant without any “badness” intended but that really nowadays isn’t the right thing to say/chant.

Some on this thread btw come across in that Holier than thou way that I must admit makes me feel a little nauseous and they should catch themselves on…..and tbh it’s very predictable who will always do so
 
Is it time to get on with it now ? Massive respect to Jake for having the strength to come out. However lets move on.
 
JJpool said:
Definitely bots here....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1526244161543983104
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Dont think they're bots, it's an infantile bit of football twitter banter (copy pasta it's called in reference to copying and pasting something), you see it under loads of stuff.

Someone probably put that in seriousness at one time and then people just copy and paste it now as a laugh. You look at any major clubs replies on twitter and it is full of 14 year olds with footballers as their profile pictures posting
juvenile memes and copy pastas.

Not the right time or place really for it but the people doing it will literally be children/young teens. I doubt they actually mean anything by it, just an attempt to get likes as it's a running joke on "football twitter".
 
Bloodtangerine said:
There’s nothing wrong with them. Neither has said anything negative about the boy’s sexuality. Suggest you concentrate on your positive words about the young man and stop trying to nitpick other people’s comments
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You are probably right, Phil is good at looking at things in different ways, but they can irk sometimes, but agree with him or not he does make for interesting debate, so apologies Phil, I have edited the post. As for AK, I just thought his initial comments were a bit unusual and didn't sit with me well, but I have edited it now.

As for your latest post I agree about the chanting, and it wasn't that long ago (actually thinking back it was longer than I thought) that on the old AVFTT there were a lot of comments about Sam Oyston's sexuality and a certain Michael Chopra, based on nothing, so times change and thankfully thankfully attitudes change and we are a more tolerant and inclusive society. But there will be some who posted back in the day that will have a different mindset now because we are more tolerant. So looking at the Marv tweets when he was 15 is really unfair on the lad and just the filthy media trying to dig up dirt and cause headlines.
 
hertfordseasider said:
You are probably right, Phil is good at looking at things in different ways, but they can irk sometimes, but agree with him or not he does make for interesting debate, so apologies Phil, I have edited the post. As for AK, I just thought his initial comments were a bit unusual and didn't sit with me well, but I have edited it now.

As for your latest post I agree about the chanting, and it wasn't that long ago (actually thinking back it was longer than I thought) that on the old AVFTT there were a lot of comments about Sam Oyston's sexuality and a certain Michael Chopra, based on nothing, so times change and thankfully thankfully attitudes change and we are a more tolerant and inclusive society. But there will be some who posted back in the day that will have a different mindset now because we are more tolerant. So looking at the Marv tweets when he was 15 is really unfair on the lad and just the filthy media trying to dig up dirt and cause headlines.
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Phil is the most predictable man in Great Britain, whatever the popular view is, he'll take the extreme opposite. He's been like it for years, some things he's been right about and some things he hasn't.
 
Philbfctrois said:
It really doesn't matter if he's gay or not

What i do feel surprising is that he would want to create a media circus around himself when he's just starting off in the game

Good luck to him though
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Maybe the media circus is just an unavoidable consequence of his desire to be open and live his life the way he wants to. I suspect it's been managed in a way that it garners as much positive response as possible immediately, which should help him going forwards. Whatever crap gets thrown at him he has a huge well of support to draw upon. The media circus will die down soon enough, you'd hope.
 
Scaramanga said:
Is it time to get on with it now ? Massive respect to Jake for having the strength to come out. However lets move on.
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Scaramanga said:
How long do you think everyone should talk about Jake ?
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A good news story gaining world-wide interest that shows the club and player in a good light. Not sure why we’d want to move on, it’s not as if there’s any football to talk about at the moment.
It certainly makes better reading than endless threads about ticket prices.
 
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L’étranger said:
At least it’s nipped the

A good news story gaining world-wide interest that shows the club and player in a good light. Not sure why we’d want to move on, it’s not as if there’s any football to talk about at the moment.
It certainly makes better reading than endless threads about ticket prices.
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Agree re ticket prices, I've commented on what a brave decision and full respect to the lad, but the longer the fawning goes on the more chance you have of bringing out the trolls and causing unnecessary grief. Everyone is pleased but there's absolutely no need to do this to death. We move on and hopefully more will have the courage to come out.
 
911_Kirky said:
Fair play to the lad 👍 proud to be a Seasider!
My youngest lad has shown some of the comments on Twitter (I don’t do Twitter) most of the hate coming from the Middle East and the occasional nobber!
Some people and cultures are still way behind in the Stone Age!
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Quite. On that theme there's a pertinent comment from a fan on the Spurs Board highlighted above:

there are even clubs in the PL owned and run by people who condemn homosexuals to death.
 
Gary said:
It’s not bots. It’s “Football Twitter” weirdos who copy and paste the same shite under any popular tweet. Just a bunch of virgins.
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Didnt see your post mate, I've just put the same. Makes any major clubs tweets unreadable as the response are flooded with ridiculous shite
 
Freckleton Jess said:
Let’s be honest here, rivalaries aside, I think the nobbers would have no desire to fan any flames.
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Can't say I share your faith. Wouldn't take long for the abuse to come out if he scored against them or we were winding them up

They abused an unconscious Grimshaw who had done nothing to them except be knocked out by one of their loan players, I'd put nowt past 'em.
 
Bloodtangerine said:
I’m not an overly sensitive type and I do think about a lot if things “it’s only a joke” BUT I accept that some jokes could have more likelihood to genuinely hurt a group of people’s feelings regardless of intention.

That chant is unarguably homophobic because it is criticising and belittling the opposition fans that rather than come to suooort their team they have come to engage in homosexual activities which by nature if the chant is a very bad thing both to be laughed at and ridiculed for. Have I sung it?…..yes of course many times without giving a second thought to who it may offend……my point is that a hell of a lot of people on here will have too.

So it’s ok having a thread with 500 people agreeing it’s brave the lad coming out (which it is although nowadays he shouldn’t have to be brave go do so) BUT the fact Is it’s powerful because it causes many people like me to just pause and think of what we sometimes say/chant without any “badness” intended but that really nowadays isn’t the right thing to say/chant.

Some on this thread btw come across in that Holier than thou way that I must admit makes me feel a little nauseous and they should catch themselves on…..and tbh it’s very predictable who will always do so
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I'm not sure we should beat ourselves up too much for past chants when the football authorities are still letting abhorrent regimes buy the likes of City and Newcastle, there's bigger issues.
 
Scaramanga said:
Is it time to get on with it now ? Massive respect to Jake for having the strength to come out. However lets move on.
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"Get on with it"?
I'm sure that Jake just wants to get on with his football career, and will do so with increased confidence after yesterday, but this will continue to be an issue as long as there are outdated attitudes in football.
Patrice Evra revealed that during his time at Wet Spam, a number of players said they would not accept a gay player in the team.
That was just 4 years ago.

But times change quickly.
I had a look at PKE Online last night. The overwhelming reaction was one of support for Jake (while hoping, as a Lasher, he loses every match).
There had been a couple of homophobic posts, but they were roundly condemned, and the posters banned.
It's a sign that much progress has been made when the vast majority of our bitterest rivals can - with reservations - praise him.

One final aspect.
This story has been known within the club for some time, but there have been no leaks, no wannabe Rebekah Vardys looking to make a sneaky few bob.
That's a sign of the genuine support from everyone at the club, especially the players.
And while it was entertaining back in the day to hear the stream of gossip that used to come out of the club, it's a better functioning place now that things are kept in-house much more.
 
TangerinePeel said:
Dont think they're bots, it's an infantile bit of football twitter banter (copy pasta it's called in reference to copying and pasting something), you see it under loads of stuff.

Someone probably put that in seriousness at one time and then people just copy and paste it now as a laugh. You look at any major clubs replies on twitter and it is full of 14 year olds with footballers as their profile pictures posting
juvenile memes and copy pastas.

Not the right time or place really for it but the people doing it will literally be children/young teens. I doubt they actually mean anything by it, just an attempt to get likes as it's a running joke on "football twitter".
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Either way its a load of horse shit, they clearly aren’t Blackpool accounts so saying I'm a Blackpool fan and not going again because of this is just weird.

Trying to make the fanbase look bad and make their weird point.
 
Brett&Murphs. said:
Not really bothered if he’s gay or not but can’t of been easy for him to come out like this at any age never mind 17. Shows very strong character which hopefully will help him in his career.
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That's right. Took personality and guts from the lad, both essential qualities in a striker. Good time for him to come out as well. By the start of next season most of the media froth should have died down and he can concentrate fully on his football.
 
foggy said:
As long as they want to
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Scaremonger. Straight out of the Johnson playbook. "Lets move on" is his favourite phrase when people keep talking about Partygate.

The more we talk about Jake and the way he's dealt with coming out, the better in my opinion.

I've got a grandson around his age, and I'd be proud if he did something similar. Jake deserves all the support he's getting, and all the support he's going to get in the future.
 
Ollygon said:
Scaremonger. Straight out of the Johnson playbook. "Lets move on" is his favourite phrase when people keep talking about Partygate.

The more we talk about Jake and the way he's dealt with coming out, the better in my opinion.

I've got a grandson around his age, and I'd be proud if he did something similar. Jake deserves all the support he's getting, and all the support he's going to get in the future.
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My Nephew is Gay, we don't talk about every day, its just the way it is. Accepted as his position in life. I'm pretty confident if we blathered on about it day after day he would get annoyed. Its just not a problem in this day and age. Move along. Not sure why you had to bring Boris into this, Muppet.
 
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