Lake District here we come

It’s part of lifting restrictions though I guess. Which will be lifted completely in the weeks to come.
Absolutely, but we will not see social distancing removed this year, IMHO. Had a lot of mates in Mountain Rescue in the Lakes a few years ago, and they will not have the luxury of not helping those out who get in trouble, without social distancing. Or maybe we just leave folk to die on the hills? Bit like the RNLI on the Prom, if loads of folk are back out in boats, they would also be put at risk. I just think it is unnecessary at this stage in recovery.

For me, priority is getting as many as possible back to work safely, allowing very limited careful family contact as soon as possible and allowing more people outside near to where they live. For me, if you can run your cafe, shop or hotel safely, you should be allowed to now, well before people can start driving hundreds of miles for a walk or run. Each action adds a little to R, we need to use those bits that are most useful to us as a society.
 
Do we really need a set of detailed instructions though really?

Surely we are capable of being treated like adults, understanding the issue and using a bit of common sense.

It's probably not the best idea in the world to start trecking off far and wide at this stage, but if folk decide to go and walk in the lakes, it really isn'y going to be the end of the world.
Sorry, have to disagree, I don't think we can treat everyone as if they will be sensible, and as I keep banging on, it's about the impact on others.
 
When I was 'wainright bagging' I would often set off early, walk a couple of fells and be home by lunchtime. Didnt use a shop or garage or interact with any others.. It can be done safely..

Im not going to be doing it again just yet, but its nice to know the option will soon be available again..
 
Do we really need a set of detailed instructions though really?

Surely we are capable of being treated like adults, understanding the issue and using a bit of common sense.

Indeed, but in moving from a position of 'you may get fined if you leave your house for any reason other than to get food or a minimal amount of exercise in your immediate surroundings' it is natural for people to want clarity about what they are now allowed to do without fear of punishment.
 
I've just told the missus that we are off to the park tomorrow. Footy in the morning, she's in nets and cricket in the afternoon and I'm batting
 
Sorry, have to disagree, I don't think we can treat everyone as if they will be sensible, and as I keep banging on, it's about the impact on others.
I have to disagree majority of folk are decent law abiding folk who will follow any rules and then their is the less than 10% who won't.
You see hundreds out about on TV and it's sheer shock horror not taking into the factor their could be hundreds of thousands who live in the area who are sticking to the rules.
 
Indeed, but in moving from a position of 'you may get fined if you leave your house for any reason other than to get food or a minimal amount of exercise in your immediate surroundings' it is natural for people to want clarity about what they are now allowed to do without fear of punishment.

What more clarity do you need?

You are free to exercise with your household members without restriction as long as you maintain a sensible distance from other people.

It really isn't very difficult....
 
My family live in Scotland so there's another layer of confusion to that.
No confusion. If stopped in Scotland you will be asked to go home. Same in Wales. Also South Lakes is a Covid 19 hotspot, so social distancing is recommended if you don't want to take it home with you.
 
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Sorry, have to disagree, I don't think we can treat everyone as if they will be sensible, and as I keep banging on, it's about the impact on others.
Sorry, but you are being ridiculous...We live in a free Country and it is absolutely vital that we empower people to make their own choices to the greatest possible extent. If nothing else, this lockdown has opened my eyes to bloody Socialism, I'll tell you that for nothing. Wolves in sheeps clothing has never been more apt.... One sniff of the opportunity for State Controlled everything and the Hi Viz Jackets and Clip Boards are out in full force..
 
No confusion. If stopped in Scotland you will be asked to go home. Same in Wales. Also South Lakes is a Covid 19 hotspot, do social distancing is recommended if you don't want to take it home with you.

Oh, I get that. It's just odd that it's safe to go to Carlisle, but not to Annan. Grand to have a BBQ and a swim on one side of Gretna but not to even be in a closed car on the other.

I'm going nowhere for the foreseeable, don't need to so I won't. Not moaning, it is what it is.
 
31,000 deaths say otherwise. We have to rely on common sense...which is why I’m weary
31,000 deaths doesn't say otherwise at all.... Remember, you can rely on your own common sense and maintain sensible precautions for your own personal well being, regardless of what others choose to do. 👍
 
As someone who's banged the lockdown drum and agreed with it I've still not seen a problem with driving and being outdoors, I can stay much further away from people up a hill than I can in Asda.
 
Oh, I get that. It's just odd that it's safe to go to Carlisle, but not to Annan. Grand to have a BBQ and a swim on one side of Gretna but not to even be in a closed car on the other.

I'm going nowhere for the foreseeable, don't need to so I won't. Not moaning, it is what it is.
True, and this question has been asked of the FM. Levels are quite low in Dumfries and Galloway. Guess the border has to be respected.
 
Apparently it’s ok to swim in the lakes too , with members of your own household, according to the Guardian website update.
Yes, why shouldn't it be, tbh? Outdoor swimming in your area should never have been banned. Easy to social distance etc. Personally, although I'm not a surfer, or a golfer, I always felt it was unfair that those sports, for example, (if available in your local area), were "not allowed" - only cycling, walking and running (and horse riding from what I've seen too). Walking on the prom was surely harder to social distance than a solo practice round of golf?
 
If nothing else, this lockdown has opened my eyes to bloody Socialism, I'll tell you that for nothing. Wolves in sheeps clothing has never been more apt.... One sniff of the opportunity for State Controlled everything and the Hi Viz Jackets and Clip Boards are out in full force..
What an odd argument, have you missed that we have a Conservative Government in power setting all the rules? The CPS and Police Services setting the guidelines? But blame Socialists?

And as for accusing me of being ridiculous, just because I disagree with you??? Yeh, right. We live together in a society, though some of you think you have the freedom to do whatever you like, no matter the impact on the rest of us. It was put best by LythamFY8 when he challenged you, with the drinking a bottle of vodka and driving. It has been said a million times but is no less true, you have rights but also responsibilities.
 
I can’t drive to the gym to do proper exercise and weights but all these people who never exercised before coronavirus can go where they want for a jolly?
Your post doesn’t make any sense...at all....surely you dont need anyone to explain the reasons why?......and yes you can drive to the gym ...that ain’t a problem...the fact is gyms are shut.....I think you full well know why
 
Too many where possibles etc to lead to anything but clarity.

People being people will use it to justify their own behaviour even if it flies in the face of the intention.
People were already doing there own thing Wiz, there will be a second spike Darwinism in action
 
As someone who's banged the lockdown drum and agreed with it I've still not seen a problem with driving and being outdoors, I can stay much further away from people up a hill than I can in Asda.
Lytham, don’t try to apply the smallest bit of common sense and logic to the situation...it only confuses some folk on here mate
 
What an odd argument, have you missed that we have a Conservative Government in power setting all the rules? The CPS and Police Services setting the guidelines? But blame Socialists?

And as for accusing me of being ridiculous, just because I disagree with you??? Yeh, right. We live together in a society, though some of you think you have the freedom to do whatever you like, no matter the impact on the rest of us. It was put best by LythamFY8 when he challenged you, with the drinking a bottle of vodka and driving. It has been said a million times but is no less true, you have rights but also responsibilities.

I blame Socialists for continuously begging the Government to implement some kind of Martial Law yes. I don't think that people have the right to do "Whatever they like", but I do think that there are some fairly fundamental freedoms to which we are all entitled to and those should not be sacrificed lightly.

And you are being ridiclulous as all the available scientific evidence points to outdoor exercise being highly unlikely to pose any signifcant risk.
 
The question of fairness never came into it. The lockdown has done its job and it needed to be unequivocal. If it wasn't, it wouldn't have done its job and made policing it a nightmare. I wonder what the police feel about the 'go where you want to, whenever you want to' conclusion.

Whilst I personally can understand what I am now able to do and not do, I still think the blithe dismissal of questions about what people are able to do or not is a little, I dunno, insensitive.

Not everyone is equipped with the same knowledge. One of my friends (a lovely, intelligent, educated person) literally didn't know what a virus was at the outset of this.

I don't agree with Boris on most things, but I find the lad quite charming and I admire his eloquence and sense of occaison. I think one thing he can never be accused of (like me, in some ways) is brevity and razor sharp clarity.

We've switched from 'don't worry' to 'it's ok, we're going to meet it head on and bosh it' to 'everyone home!' to 'shit, lock the doors' to 'if you're seen out, the stassi will get you' to 'ok, crack on with it lads and lasses'

On the one hand, staying home is the right thing to do, on the other it's a desertion of our duty to the economy and the need to support each other.

It's ok to be confused about what the right and wrong thing to do is. You don't have to be certain and confusion shouldn't be met with mockery.
I'm a bit puzzled why people need to drive somewhere for exercise? Why not just walk somewhere and then walk back?

That works fine for me cos though I'm near the centre of Lancaster I can be in woodland or estuary or the edge of Bowland in very little time on my bike, but it must be nightmare living in the middle of city as many do. I've literally thought 'thank fuck I don't live in London' everyday when I've been out.
 
My family live in Scotland so there's another layer of confusion to that.
Yes, hav
I’m sure 90% of people will be sensible. It’s the 10% who’ll cause thousands more to die. I really hope I’m wrong
Anecdotally, I think the 10% of "covidiots" are not generally people who want to go outside to do some "real", proper exercise by themselves or with members of their household, Athers... more likely the sort of people who've been holding "secret" parties, bbqs, liaising with others not in their household etc. As someone who under normal circumstances travels to the Lakes/Dales/Peaks for fellrunning/hiking/mtn biking etc roughly every 2 weeks or so (and am happy to go alone if that's the option), I maintain I'm far more likely to catch the disease during my once weekly trip to Lidl. I've followed the rules "religiously" and will continue to do so - and sincerely hope that any clarification tomorrow doesn't change what appears to be the new exercise freedom - but if it does, I'll comply. But the scientific evidence suggests (as others have said) that travelling to exercise outdoors is NOT a big risk factor.
 
And you are being ridiclulous as all the available scientific evidence points to outdoor exercise being highly unlikely to pose any signifcant risk.
Are you deliberately missing the point, again? It isn't the exercise, it is the getting there, the accidents, the support needed, all unnecessary if you exercise from home.

AS for blaming the opposition for the Government's rules, when the Government have done so little to engage with anyone but themselves and SAGE, I think you are projecting your prejudices a little far.
 
I'm a bit puzzled why people need to drive somewhere for exercise? Why not just walk somewhere and then walk back?
Because for many people, exercise (in a variety of forms) is (and has been for many, many years) a very important part of their life (just as watching BFC or going to the pub is too 🙂 )… fair enough if it isn't for you but I'm not sure why it's puzzling? Am afraid for me, going for a short local walk around Cleveleys, although pleasant enough, just doesn't "cut the mustard".
 
Are you deliberately missing the point, again? It isn't the exercise, it is the getting there, the accidents, the support needed, all unnecessary if you exercise from home.

AS for blaming the opposition for the Government's rules, when the Government have done so little to engage with anyone but themselves and SAGE, I think you are projecting your prejudices a little far.


No. I'm not 'deliberately missing the point' You are looking for reasons to try and justify continuing unecessary infirngements on peoples freedom. It is possible that a small number of people may get injured partaking in exercise, just as they may to a greater or lesser degree by doing something else.... That's an acceptable level of risk in order to enable people to engage in a perfectly reasonable level of activity which is beneficial to them physically and mentally.

I'm not blaming the opposition for "Government Rules"...I'm blaming Socialists for constantly promoting much stricter rules.
 
61 years old still or was going to the gym lifting weights. Knees are knackered, played rugby for Fylde and England Schoolboys and football for 15 years. As mentioned earlier watched a few episodes of After Life with Ricky Gervais and decided not to pull any punches
OL, you're clearly not a bad type but ffs.....your line earlier re you being allowed to attend the gym etc was pure tosh and you know it
 
I was under the impression that some gyms are reopening under strict limitations. Certainly a mate of mine was pretty chuffed about it.
 
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