Madine

Good enough to lead the line this season?

  • Yes

    Votes: 123 61.2%

  • No

    Votes: 78 38.8%
  • Total voters
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KingZobo

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I feel Reading came into the game more 2nd half because they had all the time in the world on the ball as Madine doesn't press at all.

Is the goal machine good enough to do the business this year?
 
I thought he did a lot of intelligent hold up play, bringing team mates into play, plus defensively, he won everything as their corners came in.

Steve Thompson said on Lancs that he was great at both ends of the pitch.

I suggest he knows more about the game than us.
 
Wizaard said:
I thought he did a lot of intelligent hold up play, bringing team mates into play, plus defensively, he won everything as their corners came in.

Steve Thompson said on Lancs that he was great at both ends of the pitch.

I suggest he knows more about the game than us.
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Offered no goal threat and can't run, would be better suited at Fleetwood even if the tactical genius Steve Thompson disagrees.
 
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It's no surprise that they've been actively trying to find a new big lad up top. Appleton hasn't made a secret of that.

His link up play when he drops in to try and keep the ball moving is good but you've got to ring him an uber if you're expecting him to get on the end of it. He'll know that too, he seems quite open in acknowledging what he can and can't do now after his injuries and what has gone before.

Looks to have put a lot of work into his fitness and conditioning over the summer to try and make the most of his latest contract. He's doing his best, it's all on the club to improve on that.
 
I know he's great with the young players and seems a decent guy but its the not running, it gives teams time to build and start pushing us back. Today's 2nd half prime example. He'd be my No.1 choice off the bench for the last 20.
 
He is what he is. And I don't think that's changed all that much in years to be fair.he was brought in in league one and probably thought his championship days were long gone but here we are.
I think Appleton knows what we need, wether we can get it is another thing.
Ellis Simms would have been just what we needed and Madine could have then contributed as and when Appleton thought necessary.
 
KingZobo said:
I'm hoping Beesley is a more speedier Madine too, time will tell.
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Well from what I saw he isn't as good at holding it up, thats something Gaz does well.

But he can still hold it up and flick on etc.

But he's far quicker and more mobile and the pressing from the front with him Jerry and another is far superior.

He looked to have be good finisher too, but too early to say, although Madine can score a few.

What you cant beat is Madines experience, know how of at times where to be, shithousery play etc.

He doesn't have the pace so has to be a bit smarter.

Happy to have him, a good asset and a great character.
 
JJpool said:
Well from what I saw he isn't as good at holding it up, thats something Gaz does well.

But he can still hold it up and flick on etc.

But he's far quicker and more mobile and the pressing from the front with him Jerry and another is far superior.

He looked to have be good finisher too, but too early to say, although Madine can score a few.

What you cant beat is Madines experience, know how of at times where to be, shithousery play etc.

He doesn't have the pace so has to be a bit smarter.

Happy to have him, a good asset and a great character.
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Do you think the flick on stuff is more important than pressing? I personally disagree.

You're right about the shithousery and great character though. I have friends within the youth team and he's great with them.
 
I think he's important in the same way Keogh is, mature heads, wind up the opposition, don't take any shit and stop us being pushovers, he's also a handful.

Probably should have done better with his header today but he was tiring, apart from that he was fine.
 
KingZobo said:
what are you talking about...
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There are a lot of people who are disagreeing with you and your view, which is perfectly acceptable, and you are spending your time trying to convince others that he isn't any good. and by doing that being totally negative about one of our star players. I mean I don't rate Anderson, but I wouldn't go on about what I think is wrong with his, it serves no purpose. Critch and now Appleton think he has what it takes and Thommo was waxing lyrical about his contribution today. I would rather he was playing for us than against us.

I guess it's an interesting debate but it feels like signalling out a player to be negative about him on a day we won, and had several players who could have been MOM.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
I think he's important in the same way Keogh is, mature heads, wind up the opposition, don't take any shit and stop us being pushovers, he's also a handful.

Probably should have done better with his header today but he was tiring, apart from that he was fine.
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His header was powderpuff girls.
 
hertfordseasider said:
There are a lot of people who are disagreeing with you and your view, which is perfectly acceptable, and you are spending your time trying to convince others that he isn't any good. and by doing that being totally negative about one of our star players. I mean I don't rate Anderson, but I wouldn't go on about what I think is wrong with his, it serves no purpose. Critch and now Appleton think he has what it takes and Thommo was waxing lyrical about his contribution today. I would rather he was playing for us than against us.

I guess it's an interesting debate but it feels like signalling out a player to be negative about him on a day we won, and had several players who could have been MOM.
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If Appleton thought that he wouldn't have gone in for Bishop & Simms. I simply asked a question to get fellow seasiders opinions on it. I've said a lot of good things about Madine.
 
KingZobo said:
Do you think the flick on stuff is more important than pressing? I personally disagree.

You're right about the shithousery and great character though. I have friends within the youth team and he's great with them.
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I was referring to Beesley in that line, he can still hold it up and flick it on, but not as well.

For me I like pace and pressing and of Beesley is the complete package it'll be him picked, but he has to prove it.

Madine is still a useful asset even if not 1st choice, even off the bench.

Sometimes you do need a go long option.
 
Wizzerboy said:
Did you watch the game?
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there's counter arguments to why madine is good. His shithousery, good at set pieces, good leader, great with the young players, good hold up play but you simply cannot make an argument for that he's a great presser, self admittedly he knows he isn't.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
I think he's important in the same way Keogh is, mature heads, wind up the opposition, don't take any shit and stop us being pushovers, he's also a handful.

Probably should have done better with his header today but he was tiring, apart from that he was fine.
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I agree with you, I think he's good to have about the place.
 
KingZobo said:
If Appleton thought that he wouldn't have gone in for Bishop & Simms. I simply asked a question to get fellow seasiders opinions on it. I've said a lot of good things about Madine.
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You have and it is interesting, in fact I would say two thirds for and a third against is a pretty good indication of supporters thoughts.

If we had Bishop or Simms, I still think Madine would play and I would still like to see a player like them join because we need another player to push him.
 
Madine isn't good enough for the championship neither is Yates or Lavery, don't like to say it but that is the truth.
Ideal scenario we bring in two forwards better than what we have.
In defence of Madine, and I never thought I would say this, but as things stand he has to start. But he probably won't score or assist.
Football can be weird like that!
 
hertfordseasider said:
You have and it is interesting, in fact I would say two thirds for and a third against is a pretty good indication of supporters thoughts.

If we had Bishop or Simms, I still think Madine would play and I would still like to see a player like them join because we need another player to push him.
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We only play with one striker though? I'm really surprised, we'll see, he did have that amazing blip of form last year.
 
gjr69 said:
Madine isn't good enough for the championship neither is Yates or Lavery, don't like to say it but that is the truth.
Ideal scenario we bring in two forwards better than what we have.
In defence of Madine, and I never thought I would say this, but as things stand he has to start. But he probably won't score or assist.
Football can be weird like that!
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I can't agree with any of that, although I am unconvinced by Lavery, but he is a Championship striker I just think he might be better in a different team with a formation that suits him more.
 
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