Suella

The only way out of this joke of a system would be an election every year for 20% of them combined with a ban on lobbying and outside jobs and directorships. Fkn jokers the lot of them.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
She’s a mouthpiece, only interested in her own career progression. Her approach has been to play to the far right of our country, creating division and hate. We don’t need people like her in politics.
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She will be swinging for Rishi from the rafters now. And will likely have good support from the right of the party which is now in turmoil.
 
Disappointing lack of leadership by Sunak. He needs to stop appeasing the whiners and fill the Cabinet with strong people.

David Cameron might be a capable addition. Surely he's learned a lot from his travails as PM.
 
Has Rishi just played the card that Suella wanted? I would say yes.
Would it have been better for Rishi to insist that she made some contrite and humiliating statement and when she wouldn't to say that she had in effect resigned from the government by not accepting the supremacy of the PM over the HS?
And then to completely cut her legs off by complimenting the police and saying that he was glad that the march took place and that everything passed off fairly peacefully, as that is a democratic right, whilst blaming Suella (rightly) for the hate mob that were causing problems at the cenotaph.
 
He's bringing Cameron in as foreign Secretary? The man that gambled a nation on Brexit. Well that won't be divisive then? Deary me.
 
Macseasider said:
She will be swinging for Rishi from the rafters now. And will likely have good support from the right of the party which is now in turmoil.
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In recent years every chapter for the Conservatives has been the same, only the names change. Personal ambition over local & national progression. It’ll be no different under Labour.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Nope not having that no one on here including me have ever said or indeed hinted what you said.

You’ve screwed up big style and you know it saying that so let’s now see the evidence who said they are happy seeing Gaza civilians blown up?

Come on post the comments up
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It’s a figure of speech and I’m happy to clarify, obviously I wasn’t suggesting that people are dancing around their living rooms at the thought of Palestinian civilians dying.

In this instance it was directed at people who have condoned the repeated bombing of Gaza by Israeli forces, despite the obvious risks of civilian casualties.

I’ve seen calls for Gaza to be flattened, I’ve seen people justifying Israeli actions by saying that Palestinians favour armed struggle, I’ve seen you justify Israeli actions by using the argument that Hamas started it. It’s a policy of collective punishment on the Palestinian people and it’s a policy that I detest.

All of the above show a disregard for the lives of Palestinian civilians, which led to me using a figure of speech which wasn’t intended to be taken literally.

Hope that clears it up 👍
 
Sven said:
It’s a figure of speech and I’m happy to clarify, obviously I wasn’t suggesting that people are dancing around their living rooms at the thought of Palestinian civilians dying.

In this instance it was directed at people who have condoned the repeated bombing of Gaza by Israeli forces, despite the obvious risks of civilian casualties.

I’ve seen calls for Gaza to be flattened, I’ve seen people justifying Israeli actions by saying that Palestinians favour armed struggle, I’ve seen you justify Israeli actions by using the argument that Hamas started it. It’s a policy of collective punishment on the Palestinian people and it’s a policy that I detest.

All of the above show a disregard for the lives of Palestinian civilians, which led to me using a figure of speech which wasn’t intended to be taken literally.

Hope that clears it up 👍
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Yes it does clear it up thanks.

I know we have 2 sides in this war (against Hamas that is) but I just didn’t think we had anyone so callous as to say those sort of things towards the civilians so thanks again for clearing it up. 👍
 
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Been saying it for years, probably controversial, but in a lot of posters lifetime this great Country of ours will be subject to an all-out civil war.

The ruminations of one have already started
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
Been saying it for years, probably controversial, but in a lot of posters lifetime this great Country of ours will be subject to an all-out civil war.

The ruminations of one have already started
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Braverman is not going quietly.
She has said that she 'will say more in due course'. Has she got the numbers to spark a leadership challenge? Maybe she thinks she has given her dangerous interventions last week and the inevitable outcome.
Civil war again in the party of government, surely it's time for a GE.
Shouldn't the few remaining one nation Tories put Sunak out of his misery and give us the GE that the country so badly needs by backing a vote of no confidence. Country first.
 
Sven said:
It’s a figure of speech and I’m happy to clarify, obviously I wasn’t suggesting that people are dancing around their living rooms at the thought of Palestinian civilians dying.

In this instance it was directed at people who have condoned the repeated bombing of Gaza by Israeli forces, despite the obvious risks of civilian casualties.

I’ve seen calls for Gaza to be flattened, I’ve seen people justifying Israeli actions by saying that Palestinians favour armed struggle, I’ve seen you justify Israeli actions by using the argument that Hamas started it. It’s a policy of collective punishment on the Palestinian people and it’s a policy that I detest.

All of the above show a disregard for the lives of Palestinian civilians, which led to me using a figure of speech which wasn’t intended to be taken literally.

Hope that clears it up 👍
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it's a fact that in a vote last March, Palestinians voted in favour of an armed struggle. And you say all of the above shows a disregard for the lives of Palestinian civilians. Care to show me any post of yours where you've condemned the actions of Hamas on 7/10 and their disregard for the lives of Israeli civilians? Fact is you haven't so spare me your hypocrisy and your moral judgement of others.
 
Halifax71 said:
Cowardly act by Rishi.

Suella just ensured she'll be leading the party soon, hopefully as PM.
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Yes it was he should have done it a week back — so he is
How he could Standpauke and let her spout on is beyondme

The UK is really becoming a far right wing dark place dictatorship — my example below

The ultimate insult to the electorate and people of the UK would be D Cameron another unelected Tom, Dick or Harry into the Government — that‘s another demonstration in its own right — absolutely broken democracy

Disney world politics
 
20togo said:
To some extent, i think you hang yourself with this comment. So if the right wing wouldn't have turned up without the comments of what SB said then it's natural to think they most certainly wouldn't have turned up if the march had been cancelled or deferred til this coming weekend. IE then there wouldn't have been any problems on a weekend which should be sacrosanct in our calendar. And that's the point some have been making.
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I understand your point but respectfully have to disagree. The point I am making was that a senior figure(can´t remember who) who works( or rcently worked) as deputy director of operations at the Met, was quoted on R% Live yesterday morning as saying precisely that; i.e the Ceasefire march had been vetted and given the go-ahead and there was no intended or planned involvement of far-right thugs. It was only after Braverman opned her spiteful mouth that the police became aware of said thugs´ demonstration. And, 20s, don´t forget those thugs tried to get to the cenotaph and caused mayhem . So much for respecting a national sacrosanct day.
 
Brazil said:
I understand your point but respectfully have to disagree. The point I am making was that a senior figure(can´t remember who) who works( or rcently worked) as deputy director of operations at the Met, was quoted on R% Live yesterday morning as saying precisely that; i.e the Ceasefire march had been vetted and given the go-ahead and there was no intended or planned involvement of far-right thugs. It was only after Braverman opned her spiteful mouth that the police became aware of said thugs´ demonstration. And, 20s, don´t forget those thugs tried to get to the cenotaph and caused mayhem . So much for respecting a national sacrosanct day.
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I respectively disagree.

The far right have for some weeks now been planning a counter protest long before Braverman opened her Gob.

I watched a Tommy Robinson video on I think YouTube but not 100% sure where he was rallying the troops to go to London for a counter march like I said long before Braverman spoke those words so that Person you refer (Ex policeman) is incorrect in what he says.

Don’t believe everything you read/watch.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I respectively disagree.

The far right have for some weeks now been planning a counter protest long before Braverman opened her Gob.

I watched a Tommy Robinson video on I think YouTube but not 100% sure where he was rallying the troops to go to London for a counter march like I said long before Braverman spoke those words.
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Troops 😄

Same Robinson who fucked off in a taxi?

Another strong man.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I respectively disagree.

The far right have for some weeks now been planning a counter protest long before Braverman opened her Gob.

I watched a Tommy Robinson video on I think YouTube but not 100% sure where he was rallying the troops to go to London for a counter march like I said long before Braverman spoke those words.
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Yes, heard that on sky news today, the far right protest was already planned, but it’s easy for the media to blame her. Not that I think she was very clever, unless of course she wanted to be sacked.
 
Matesrates said:
Yes, heard that on sky news today, the far right protest was already planned, but it’s easy for the media to blame her. Not that I think she was very clever, unless of course she wanted to be sacked.
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At last some else knows who knows the truth. 👍

Braverman was just the scapegoat in all this.

Makes you wonder how long these changes today have been planned?

I’m sure Barron Cameron didn’t get a phone call at 07:30 this morning while eating his eggs Benedict.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Nope what brought the extremists out was Mark Rowley allowing the pro Palestinian March to go ahead on a remembrance weekend.
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Nope, what will the extremists out, was Hamas invading Israel. If that's happened, none of the subsequent deaths, protests, counter- protests or ensuing anti-semitic violence across the world would have happened
 
Brazil said:
I understand your point but respectfully have to disagree. The point I am making was that a senior figure(can´t remember who) who works( or rcently worked) as deputy director of operations at the Met, was quoted on R% Live yesterday morning as saying precisely that; i.e the Ceasefire march had been vetted and given the go-ahead and there was no intended or planned involvement of far-right thugs. It was only after Braverman opned her spiteful mouth that the police became aware of said thugs´ demonstration. And, 20s, don´t forget those thugs tried to get to the cenotaph and caused mayhem . So much for respecting a national sacrosanct day.
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but surely their intention in their minds was to get to Cenotaph to protect it, not vandalise it. That's not to say they were intent on causing trouble because they clearly were. I'll also make this point so my views are pretty clear. ALL those right extremists were there to cause trouble. The overwhelming vast majority of the marchers were peaceful protesters. But that march shouldn't have gone ahead for the reasons I've mentioned.
 
20togo said:
Irrespective of what SB said, i stand by my view that march should not have took place yesterday. It brought the extreme right out and the violence that followed from them who perhaps would not have been there if the march had been cancelled and deferred for a week. There was also a significant number of arrests also from the "pro" march where a "mob" broke away. You only have to look on the Sky News website to see pictures of deeply offensive banners as well as peoples support of Hamas. So nothing to do with peace whatsoever. It was inevitable there would be trouble on a day/ weekend which should be sacrosanct in the calendar for citizens of this country to remember those live lost. For those of who you were advocating the march should take place then like it or not the weekend has been tarnished by events of yesterday. And it could and should have been so different.
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It's supposed to be a sacrosanct day.

Didn't stop you banging on though did it?
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Let’s go back to the morning of 07/10/23 and the massacres carried out that’s what started all this FACT.
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Think that's pretty much what I said, without Hamas's invasion and war crimes against Israel, there would have been no subsequent retaliation by Israel, no Arab loss of life and therefore no protests or counter-protests

But I forgot, according to the hideouly anti-Semitic left, the Jews aren't allowed to defend themselves.

It's frankly sickening that the left will defend any minority in the world with one exception
 
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April13th1970 said:
Think that's pretty much what I said, without Hamas's invasion and war crimes against Israel, there would have been no subsequent retaliation by Israel, no Arab loss of life and therefore no protests or counter-protests

But I forgot, according to the heavenly anti-Semitic left, the Jews aren't allowed to defend themselves.

It's frankly sickening that the left will defend any minority in the world with one exception
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Yes agree.

And the marches wouldn’t be happening Braverman would still be Home Secretary and Cameron would still be in retirement had 07/10/23 not happened.
And more importantly over 10,000 people would still be alive today. 😞
 
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