Summer Transfer Rumours trois - Will Appy (re)sign anyone?

LA1 Seasider said:
And the money spent on the club to get promoted, upgrade pretty much every aspect of the clubs infrastructure from the computer software used by the back office staff to the very steel holding the roof up has grown on trees has it ?

Even *if* Sadler sold the club for £12.5 million right now he’d have almost certainly lost money. Also what lunatic in their right mind would buy a club the size of Blackpool FC (for £12.5 million) when just to stay still there’s a minimum investment of £7-10 million needed to avoid the East stand being closed and the stadium capacity dropping to circa 12,000 in 3/4 years time and the expense that comes with funding a Chanpionship club on a year by year basis until it can self sustain.

In order to maximise the potential of Bloomfield Road as a commercial premises at least £20 million is needed. That should build in the infrastructure needed to satisfy ticket demands and to build revenue streams that operate more than 23 days per year.

In order for BFC as a football club to have any long term chance of succeeding at Chanpionship level or higher a permanent fit for purpose training ground and academy is necessary. That’s a further £10-£15 million quid.

Until the fruit of the above is realised (5+ years) the club will likely lose £2 million+ a year whilst standing still. So that’s a further £10 million.

So on top of his initial purchase cost of £7.5 million (the £5 million + invested so far) and the likely £45 - £50 million needed to see out the decade… that’s gonna be £60 million or more pumped in.

I don’t know what you want Phil but you need to get realistic.
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I very much doubt we lost money last season

The club got about 7 million extra for being promoted

Granted some of that would have to absorb the covid losses but really has he spent that much?
 
voyeur said:
You insult people routinely. Said im even more stupid than you thought, a few days ago. So dont play the victim card. Again.
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I wouldn’t even bother, it’s literally pointless.

He is consistently wrong about virtually everything (except CJ), yet somehow tries to turn it around to him being right all along (such as Critchley).

You’d have more success talking to a brick wall.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I very much doubt we lost money last season

The club got about 7 million extra for being promoted

Granted some of that would have to absorb the covid losses but really has he spent that much?
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Almost certainly lost money last season. Pretty much every Championship club (even the small ones) spend over 80p in the £1 on wages alone. Some (Reading, PNE etc) spend £1.20+ in the £1 (frankly ridiculous).

Assume we somehow managed to budget even 60p in the £1 for wages, we also spent £1.25+ Million on transfer fees. Spent significant sums continuing to upgrade / fix the problems left by the Oystons and then have to cover all the other costs any business of a similar size does. We made no large sales. Had one of the lower average gates and likely one of the smaller commercial revenues in the division.
 
Philbfctrois said:
There is a big difference between being skint or having money yet not wanting to spend it

I think we are the latter
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No we have a budget.
It might not be as big as you would want, or like, but it will have been carefully calculated and that's the way it is.
Growth will come from the model of appointing the best young manager and then allowing him to move on with a healthy profit for the club (and your batting average) . 😄
 
Owning a football club is for a certain type of millionaire / billionaire - mostly one who's prepared to spunk a lot of their money or risk a backlash from the fans. Bottomless pits spring to mind.
 
NewburyOne said:
Beg to differ, he's been shockingly bad for almost 3 seasons. Pretty much everyone at Shef Utd and WBA have questioned his attitude. It's a big gamble if you ask me as he'll be taking up a large part of their reduced wage budget.
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7 goals last season & 17 assists most for West Brom last season .
WBA fans are concerned bruce is letting him leave he is only 27
You have made that up .
WBA fans thought he was used properly.
 
Vince McLean said:
Lyons, Bishop and another quality midfielder along with Fiorini and Williams - plus the decent lads we have looks very positive to me. Just need to ship a few out now.
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We’ve only got one of those as yet and I’m not fussed about Williams tbh, his is the only position where we’ve cover - and most better than him.

As I speak, I see he’s signed. Oh well. Hope he does better than seemingly he has elsewhere.
 
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Matesrates said:
Get stuffed Mansford, he’s not going
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You’re right he isn’t
TommyHutch said:
We’ve only got one of those as yet and I’m not fussed about Williams tbh, his is the only position where we’ve cover - and most better than him.

As I speak, I see he’s signed. Oh well. Hope he does better than seemingly he has elsewhere.
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He’s a very good player. Written off after a couple of iffy games for Swansea
 
I heard that he is more of a ball playing defender who likes to progress the ball.

So could form a good partnership next to Keogh or Marv.
 
Livingthedream47 said:
Pne mad Williams is through & through a north ender
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Yeah he is going to score an own goal every game and wreck his own career!!
All pro footballers are mercenaries most people realise that at an early age, obviously takes a bit longer for it to sink in for the people of preston.
 
gjr69 said:
Yeah he is going to score an own goal every game and wreck his own career!!
All pro footballers are mercenaries most people realise that at an early age, obviously takes a bit longer for it to sink in for the people of preston.
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It’s called banter
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Never said we were splashing the cash, there are undoubtedly teams in the Championship spending much more than us.

Only stating the amounts that we are reportedly bidding as a rebuttal to certain people on here who have been insinuating that we "have no money" or "are skint" because we clearly are not.
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We haven't spent anything yet. We have put in bids, but they have been turned down!
 
Well Andy Lyons played the full 90 for Shamrock Rovers in their defeat at Ludogorets tonight. Seems odd if a deal is basically done? Or maybe not, what do I know😋
 
Some reports today linking us with Regan Poole again. Lincoln right back.

I doubt it given our pursuit of Lyons.
 
voyeur said:
Some reports today linking us with Regan Poole again. Lincoln right back.

I doubt it given our pursuit of Lyons.
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I found it weird that Lyons played last night for Shamrock, Surely you wouldn’t scupper a big move by getting injured in that last night.

Maybe it isn’t as far down the road as we’re being told. Just a guess.
 
Thatseasider said:
I found it weird that Lyons played last night for Shamrock, Surely you wouldn’t scupper a big move by getting injured in that last night.

Maybe it isn’t as far down the road as we’re being told. Just a guess.
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Negotiating tactic perhaps, attempting to push up the price by telling us that they're so definitely not going to accept our offer that they're going to play him instead.

Time to start playing hard-ball ourselves? Maybe an offer for Poole from Lincoln, or perhaps a loan move from somewhere else.
 
Thatseasider said:
I found it weird that Lyons played last night for Shamrock, Surely you wouldn’t scupper a big move by getting injured in that last night.

Maybe it isn’t as far down the road as we’re being told. Just a guess.
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Sounds like Shamrock maybe want to keep him unless we offer an amount they can't refuse. Or they may have seen last night as a massive game and wanted to keep him for it, given the lack of time to rejig without him. Stalling tactics. I think they probably stalled in order to be able to play him last night.
 
voyeur said:
Sounds like Shamrock maybe want to keep him unless we offer an amount they can't refuse. Or they may have seen last night as a massive game and wanted to keep him for it, given the lack of time to rejig without him. Stalling tactics. I think they probably stalled in order to be able to play him last night.
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You don’t often have a player who plays a game on the brink of being transferred to another club.
That tells me we’re either miles off an agreed fee or it’s simply not going to happen hence we’re looking at the Lincoln lad again Poole.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Negotiating tactic perhaps, attempting to push up the price by telling us that they're so definitely not going to accept our offer that they're going to play him instead.

Time to start playing hard-ball ourselves? Maybe an offer for Poole from Lincoln, or perhaps a loan move from somewhere else.
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voyeur said:
Sounds like Shamrock maybe want to keep him unless we offer an amount they can't refuse. Or they may have seen last night as a massive game and wanted to keep him for it, given the lack of time to rejig without him. Stalling tactics. I think they probably stalled in order to be able to play him last night.
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Both fairly likely explanations but if you were Lyons, surely you’d tell Shamrock that you understand the CL game is big but you can’t play in it as you couldn’t risk messing a decent move up.

Think I’m going off the reports that the second bid had been accepted. Maybe that wasn’t quiet true.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
You don’t often have a player who plays a game on the brink of being transferred to another club.
That tells me we’re either miles off an agreed fee or it’s simply not going to happen hence we’re looking at the Lincoln lad again Poole.
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It was a Champions League game, will look better on his CV. Shamrock would also hope to progress so played their strongest team. After the result it seems unlikely that they will qualify so will accept our offer as they don't look like that they will have any more Champions League money.
 
Thatseasider said:
Both fairly likely explanations but if you were Lyons, surely you’d tell Shamrock that you understand the CL game is big but you can’t play in it as you couldn’t risk messing a decent move up.

Think I’m going off the reports that the second bid had been accepted. Maybe that wasn’t quiet true.
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If a bid had been accepted he surely wouldn't have played. I am thinking maybe Shamrock have stalled their response to enable him to play, or simply turned it down.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
You don’t often have a player who plays a game on the brink of being transferred to another club.
That tells me we’re either miles off an agreed fee or it’s simply not going to happen hence we’re looking at the Lincoln lad again Poole.
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I suspect we are not miles off an agreed fee. But haven't yet agreed. The Poole story is somebody googling and seeing we had a supposed interest I think and tagging it into a story about Sunderland wanting him. Creative writing.
 
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voyeur said:
Some reports today linking us with Regan Poole again. Lincoln right back.

I doubt it given our pursuit of Lyons.
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Highly, highly speculative

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Exclusive: Lincoln defender raising interest from Championship after contract intention becomes clear

Lincoln City defender Regan Poole is subject to interest from clubs in the Championship, D3D4 Football understands. The 24-year-old is entering into the final year of his contract at Sincil Bank and is hoping a move to a club in the division above can be agreed, with Sunderland and Blackpool...
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Lost Seasider said:
The player's under contract, he plays if the club says he plays.
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In the real world though footballers do it all the time.

voyeur said:
If a bid had been accepted he surely wouldn't have played. I am thinking maybe Shamrock have stalled their response to enable him to play, or simply turned it down.
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Yeh I think it'll be something like that, but Lyons agent must have told him that the bid was in and a move on the cards, at that point the player would most likely push through the move if he had any sense. I'm leaning more towards we haven't agreed a fee yet.
 
Thatseasider said:
Happens all over professional football.
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I'd take that as a sign of a player you want to avoid signing.

In any event, he was happy to risk it and for whatever reason didn't make a fuss, I'll take that as a good sign, I am somewhat surprised he doesn't have a release clause in his contract, those seem to be fairly standard in LoI.
 
Thatseasider said:
In the real world though footballers do it all the time.



Yeh I think it'll be something like that, but Lyons agent must have told him that the bid was in and a move on the cards, at that point the player would most likely push through the move if he had any sense. I'm leaning more towards we haven't agreed a fee yet.
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We cant have agreed a fee surely. The doubt is how far away an agreement is, I imagine.
 
Lost Seasider said:
I'd take that as a sign of a player you want to avoid signing.

In any event, he was happy to risk it and for whatever reason didn't make a fuss, I'll take that as a good sign, I am somewhat surprised he doesn't have a release clause in his contract, those seem to be fairly standard in LoI.
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Nonsense, it's sensible, 'Hi Andy the transfer that will most likely make you very comfortable for the rest of your life is going through, just need you to travel to Bulgaria and play the toughest game of your career so far, that ok'. ' ermmm what if I get injured boss is the deal still on', ' no probably not Andy'. 'Reckon I'll sit this one out boss'.
 
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