7500 season ticket's sold

Perhaps some of the seats in M block have been reserved for hospitality clients and are not ST sales?
 
Wizaard said:
Most teams won't struggle to sell half the East at all. It's not League One.

And I can see the logic in selling out areas where you have stewarding etc sorted first before opening a new section with different access, turnstiles, stewards, catering etc.
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I had a look the other week on some footy site and the average away attendance was 1500 in the Championship the season before the pandemic. Each half of the East holds at least 2300 so, even accounting for an uptick because it's Blackpool, that's still a stretch for most clubs. Also, the idea of giving PNE or Rovers 5500 fans down the entire length of the ground is just a dreadful idea. It won't happen though because the police won't allow it.

I'm guessing the north side will be largely empty unless there's home demand.
 
Kip said:
I had a look the other week on some footy site and the average away attendance was 1500 in the Championship the season before the pandemic. Each half of the East holds at least 2300 so, even accounting for an uptick because it's Blackpool, that's still a stretch for most clubs. Also, the idea of giving PNE or Rovers 5500 fans down the entire length of the ground is just a dreadful idea. It won't happen though because the police won't allow it.

I'm guessing the north side will be largely empty unless there's home demand.
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Looking at the teams in the Division, at least half will bring over 2,000, many more in some cases.
 
Pauls_Boutique said:
Other than PNE & Blackburn I cant imagine there will be many cat A games, so £26 or less for a walk up ticket to a championship game doesn’t see too bad to me.
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Add to that Sheff Utd, WBA, Forest and possibly Derby, QPR and Fulham.
(The we should be in the premier league teams)
 
Wizzerboy said:
Add to that Sheff Utd, WBA, Forest and possibly Derby, QPR and Fulham.
(The we should be in the premier league teams)
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The club are going to have to be careful with this Cat A.
Most of these potential cat A fixtures - PNE, Blackburn possibly WBA are going to get us on TV so I’m not sure 28/30 quid is going to attract full houses.

Sheff U at home is a Wednesday night, think it’ll be a mistake to band that in Cat A.

Derby are going to struggle this year and would be very surprised if that gets Cat A as their fan base’s appetite for £30 to watch a shit side might not be there.

I get the need to increase revenues to try and compete but the more I think about this I don’t get it, think we might out price a lot of people. I don’t think it’ll happen, but if we start to struggle somewhat most games will have to go to Cat C to get the casual fan in.

In the last 12 months they’ve got most things right, so I’ll hold off saying it’s the wrong decision.
 
Class_of_2010 said:
You lead quite a sad life if you find that hilarious
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I think your missing the point here.

We’ve had fans telling us for weeks we’ve sold well over 8,000 season tickets yet truth be told we’re no where near it.

Yes hilarious and thanks for asking but I can assure you that I live far from a sad life.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I think your missing the point here.

We’ve had fans telling us for weeks we’ve sold well over 8,000 season tickets yet truth be told we’re no where near it.

Yes hilarious and thanks for asking but I can assure you that I live far from a sad life.
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Actually the last dot count was around 7,800 and approximately 7,500, with the key word being approximately, that could be right.

How many have the Cods sold, by the way?
 
Wizaard said:
Actually the last dot count was around 7,800 and approximately 7,500, with the key word being approximately, that could be right.

How many have the Cods sold, by the way?
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I’ve absolutely no idea but why do you ask? It’s a Blackpool board isn’t it?

Anyway if you need an answer ask your mate Comical Allez he's obsessed with them so he should know.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I’ve absolutely no idea but why do you ask? It’s a Blackpool board isn’t it?

Anyway if you need an answer ask your mate Comical Allez he's obsessed with them so he should know.
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You never have an idea, but do nothing but praise everything about the place, as if its the model of how to run a club.

Best pitch in football, greatest training facilities in Europe, good squad of players, etc etc etc.
 
I have to give the guy who has made a great effort to estimate the sale of ST.
He has counted the dots and the capacity of each section with regular updates.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
I think your missing the point here.

We’ve had fans telling us for weeks we’ve sold well over 8,000 season tickets yet truth be told we’re no where near it.

Yes hilarious and thanks for asking but I can assure you that I live far from a sad life.
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Wizaard said:
Actually the last dot count was around 7,800 and approximately 7,500, with the key word being approximately, that could be right.

How many have the Cods sold, by the way?
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Yeah Tangerine tractor did the app thing and minused off any showing sold against the safety cert numbers.

He did say in his first post it doesn't take into account possibly the rows on the north etc.

I did separate counts and physically counted 7816, I correctly didn't include the north 2 front rows and 1 row of the south not showing on the planner. There was then a few more sold on top maybe 40.

Have a look yourself at the planner if you want and thats how many are showing as sold. Not a lot else we could go off.

Clealry there's something out by about 300, whether freebies not counted to kids maybe, seats reserved for staff etc or something else or a combination.

If you look on the st thread whenever the over 8k figures were mentioned and everyone was rejoicing, I always said the actual numbers aren't that and mentioned the counts I did properly taking off unavailable rows.

Was still higher for an unknown reason though.

Another Season Ticket update

I think 12,000 plus would be a great average when you throw into the mix lots of mid week games and the fact we could well find ourselves in the bottom half of the table given how newly promoted teams usually fair.
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JJpool said:
Yeah Tangetine tractor did the app thing and minused off any showing sold against the safety cert numbers.

He did say in his first post it doesn't take into account possibly the rows on the north etc.

I did separate counts and physically counted 7816, I correctly didn't include the north 2 front rows and 1 row of the south not showing on the planner. There was then a few more sold on top maybe 40.

Have a look yourself at the planner if you want and thats how many are showing as sold. Not a lot else we could go off.

Clealry there's something out by about 300, whether freebies not counted to kids maybe, seats reserved for staff etc or something else or a combination.

If you look on the st thread whenever the over 8k figures were mentioned and everyone was rejoicing, I always said the actual numbers aren't that and mentioned the counts I did properly taking off unavailable rows.

Was still higher for an unknown reason though.

Another Season Ticket update

I think 12,000 plus would be a great average when you throw into the mix lots of mid week games and the fact we could well find ourselves in the bottom half of the table given how newly promoted teams usually fair.
avftt.co.uk
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Every credit to all that are counting the dots and all that, I wish I had time but at the end of the day we’re going to have a big crowd regardless of season tickets being sold- pay on the gate due to the flu thing will make the numbers up & it’s going to be a rocking atmosphere so I couldn’t really care less if we sell 8k or 10k , numbers will rise by February as we start to get in our stride and storm the league - oh & we will with the transfer window being a good one if needed
 
Kip said:
I think the prices are quite expensive for walk-ons. That said, there aren't many seats available in L,M.N blocks anyway so the number of £38/£50 seats to sell is minimal.

I think they'll split the categories based on away support so we can maximise revenue.

Why no prices for the East though? Am assuming away fans will be in the south end as block Y & Z are not on sale but hoped we'd got past the stage where parts of the ground are shut down.
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Away fans are in East south and if they sell that out will be given the East north. If they don’t then east north will go to Blackpool
 
jta8 said:
Away fans are in East south and if they sell that out will be given the East north. If they don’t then east north will go to Blackpool
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What if they sell the 2500 but only sell a few hundred more in the north part.

No east for pool fans and limited space in the 3 sides for any newcomers or last minute buys bar the very front rows.

The club should be doing all it can to fill that north east with pool fans imo.
 
JJpool said:
What if they sell the 2500 but only sell a few hundred more in the north part.

No east for pool fans and limited space in the 3 sides for any newcomers or last minute buys bar the very front rows.

The club should be doing all it can to fill that north east with pool fans imo.
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I think they will have a good idea and take each game as it comes.
If there is demand from home support then they will allocate the East Stand ( North).
They can decide a few days before the game.

A lot better situation than Karls “ We are only turning away around 100”
 
£30 pay on the gate (single matchday purchase) is a little steep. I'm sure the well paid posters will think it's peanuts? When you consider a very large majority of Blackpool/Fylde workers clear circa £7.50 an hour (net) it is over half a days pay for a single person. If you are paying for a family of 5 it is getting close to half a weeks wages!

These same people won't have the income to buy season tickets. 🤔
 
Fylde Seasider said:
£30 pay on the gate (single matchday purchase) is a little steep. I'm sure the well paid posters will think it's peanuts? When you consider a very large majority of Blackpool/Fylde workers clear circa £7.50 an hour (net) it is over half a days pay for a single person. If you are paying for a family of 5 it is getting close to half a weeks wages!

These same people won't have the income to buy season tickets. 🤔
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Yet these poor people wear expensive trainers, Satellite TV, latest iPhone etc.
Money seems no object at the moment.

For all you moaners, how much did you save during NAPM years.
 
GrahamwantshisOates said:
Yet these poor people wear expensive trainers, Satellite TV, latest iPhone etc.
Money seems no object at the moment.

For all you moaners, how much did you save during NAPM years.
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Choices isn't it? A pair of trainers last me 3 to 4 years, that works out at £30 a year for the most expensive trainers - or about the same as 1.5 hours at a football match! Similarly for a phone or TV package, do the maths.

It is hardly moaning if somebody points out that the current single ticket price is prohibitive to some's personal finance. If as a family of 5 you attend a game as a pay on the day I'm guessing that would be circa £100 a game . . . or a pair of trainers which will last up to 4 years! 🤔
 
Fylde Seasider said:
Choices isn't it? A pair of trainers last me 3 to 4 years, that works out at £30 a year for the most expensive trainers - or about the same as 1.5 hours at a football match! Similarly for a phone or TV package, do the maths.

It is hardly moaning if somebody points out that the current single ticket price is prohibitive to some's personal finance. If as a family of 5 you attend a game as a pay on the day I'm guessing that would be circa £100 a game . . . or a pair of trainers which will last up to 4 years! 🤔
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Stupid example.
It cost me £1500 for a ticket to Wembley last Sunday. I could have booked a decent holiday or bought new range of clothing or shoes. Do I regret it, no!
Memories are priceless.

The club have a repayment scheme for persons who cannot afford to buy in one instalments.
Pool fans have to be in the real World and expect to pay more like they will find out on away travels.
You either support a Sadler run club who has ambitions and now a Championship club or watch AFC Fylde where admission is cheaper.
 
JJpool said:
What if they sell the 2500 but only sell a few hundred more in the north part.

No east for pool fans and limited space in the 3 sides for any newcomers or last minute buys bar the very front rows.

The club should be doing all it can to fill that north east with pool fans imo.
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Completely agree, just repeating what was said in Monday’s meeting
 
GrahamwantshisOates said:
Stupid example.
It cost me £1500 for a ticket to Wembley last Sunday. I could have booked a decent holiday or bought new range of clothing or shoes. Do I regret it, no!
Memories are priceless.

The club have a repayment scheme for persons who cannot afford to buy in one instalments.
Pool fans have to be in the real World and expect to pay more like they will find out on away travels.
You either support a Sadler run club who has ambitions and now a Championship club or watch AFC Fylde where admission is cheaper.
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A bit of a silly post. Why would you watch AFC Fylde when you are a Blackpool fan?

I think you've also reinforced my point. If you've got £1500 to spend on tickets you are not in the group I was referring to. 🙄

How would you expect a struggling family to pay for several season tickets using a repayment scheme when they are struggling to pay their household bills each week?

Some people are not living in the real world. They just don't understand how spending £100 for a family to watch ONE game of football is as much as they probably have spare for a month, so do us a favour Rockerfeller get off your high horse!
 
Fylde Seasider said:
A bit of a silly post. Why would you watch AFC Fylde when you are a Blackpool fan?

I think you've also reinforced my point. If you've got £1500 to spend on tickets you are not in the group I was referring to. 🙄

How would you expect a struggling family to pay for several season tickets using a repayment scheme when they are struggling to pay their household bills each week?

Some people are not living in the real world. They just don't understand how spending £100 for a family to watch ONE game of football is as much as they probably have spare for a month, so do us a favour Rockerfeller get off your high horse!
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If people are in that predicament they probably can't afford £60 to go to a match either so what do you do pander to those less well off while trying to run a Championship club it simply won't work.
Quarter of a million people live in the Fylde not everyone is skint.
 
poolseasider said:
If people are in that predicament they probably can't afford £60 to go to a match either so what do you do pander to those less well off while trying to run a Championship club it simply won't work.
Quarter of a million people live in the Fylde not everyone is skint.
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I agree.

I'm not skint by the way, I was just trying to make a point that I thought £30 was a bit steep for a one off game. Didn't Everton (our great #NAPM supporters) have a campaign 20 is plenty?
 
I think people need to look at this ultimately as what it is. A business. Yeh with football it's harder to look at in that way cos you feel its part yours and your invested in it but at the end of the day it needs to be profitable and run in a way to support itself. We all want a nice stadium, training facilities, good players and a well run club with good ties to the community. That isn't possible on a shoe string. The prices I don't think are expensive all things considered. They are about right for the division and as annoying as it may be if you can't afford to go then you can't afford to go. I've missed out on sh1t loads of games cos I've been skint or need the money somewhere else. That's just the nature of the beast unfortunately.
 
Football is not necessarily a routine mass entertainment for the average working man anymore. To illustrate my point...

In April 1953, the average man’s weekly wage for manual work was 185s 11d.
You could buy the cheapest terrace ticket for that year’s FA Cup final for 3s 6d.

In 2020, the average annual wage in the U.K. was £31,461
On a straight comparison, this means that a 2020 FA Cup final ticket might have been £11.39 on the same basis.

Even if 1950s First Division league matches were only half that price for the terrace, less than 2s (and seats at Arsenal in 1953 cost 8s 6d each, terraces were POTG) then it’s clear that, in comparative terms, football for the average man costs at least 4 times as much (£20 min) as it did in the 1950s, and in London Prem grounds probably more than 10 times as much.

Of course a lot of that cost factor is driven by better facilities, safer grounds with all seating, players’ wages etc. But the effective 4x to 10x difference in price, compared with wages, makes it a much more serious decision for the average single-wage family today.
 
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I've often wondered how inflated PNE's attendances are because of their massive away allocation. Anyone know their average over the last few years?
 
If you think our sale figures weren’t great you should be glad were not Blackburn. Apparently they’ve only sold 3000 for the coming season so far 😳
 
Rektseasider said:
Most of these potential cat A fixtures - PNE, Blackburn possibly WBA are going to get us on TV so I’m not sure 28/30 quid is going to attract full houses.
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Wouldn't bet on that mate - seems that Sky can't travel further north than Preston!
 
Archibald Knox said:
Football is not necessarily a routine mass entertainment for the average working man anymore. To illustrate my point...

In April 1953, the average man’s weekly wage for manual work was 185s 11d.
You could buy the cheapest terrace ticket for that year’s FA Cup final for 3s 6d.

In 2020, the average annual wage in the U.K. was £31,461
On a straight comparison, this means that a 2020 FA Cup final ticket might have been £11.39 on the same basis.

Even if 1950s First Division league matches were only half that price for the terrace, less than 2s (and seats at Arsenal in 1953 cost 8s 6d each, terraces were POTG) then it’s clear that, in comparative terms, football for the average man costs at least 4 times as much (£20 min) as it did in the 1950s, and in London Prem grounds probably more than 10 times as much.

Of course a lot of that cost factor is driven by better facilities, safer grounds with all seating, players’ wages etc. But the effective 4x to 10x difference in price, compared with wages, makes it a much more serious decision for the average single-wage family today.
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Think the key point there was that fans would put up with shocking conditions in the ground that wouldn't happen these days. I've been on many a terrace where it was physically impossible to move around comfortably, and the facilities consisted of a brick wall with a gutter at the base of it, relying on rain to 'flush'. It's only 20 years since the West paddock bogs were like that.
 
Wizaard said:
Think the key point there was that fans would put up with shocking conditions in the ground that wouldn't happen these days. I've been on many a terrace where it was physically impossible to move around comfortably, and the facilities consisted of a brick wall with a gutter at the base of it, relying on rain to 'flush'. It's only 20 years since the West paddock bogs were like that.
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It must be remembered that there was significant grant money available to clubs to build new stadiums during the major redevelopment phase and really, I think we're kidding ourselves that the biggest driver is anything other than player wages.

I agree that new stadia are expensive, but that expense is in part due to the amount of corporate facilities included in them, which in turn generates revenues unthinkable at a 1950s football club.
 
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