Blackpool v Cardiff City Official Matchday Thread 14.08.21

Costero Poderoso said:
i kind of like his aggressiveness - its part of his game
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So did I, but I think he needs to be careful. Had to laugh when he got revenge on that headbanded centre back of theirs for giving Anderson a shove , causing him to put a hole in the advertising hoardings 😂
 
fcblackpool said:
I said before last saturday that I wouldn't be too elated if we won, too content if we drew, nor too down if we lost. The only down would have been a tonking.

Today could have been that tonking, but it wasn't. We will need afew more games to put any context on this result, but in truth it was Men v Toddlers.

Bring on The Cov- a win and we'd all have taken 4 from 3.
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Yep agree with that. Pressure if the first home match to deal with aswell with a new team.
CGP1 said:
Can't add much. Costero used the exact word I was going to. Cardiff aren't a good team, they're an efficient one. Very very efficient, and really well set up and drilled to deal with what we offered for much of the game.

Games like this always ask an interesting question, how much as a supporter are you prepared to concede in terms of entertainment versus results. Cardiff will 99.9% certain finish above us this year, and as others have said will be near the top.

Personally I couldn't face watching a team of oversized, well drilled linebackers every week, and I'm glad McCarthy isn't our manager. But if winning at any cost of entertainment is what one wants, then he's the man for the job, and good luck to all of them. While you're winning games, there's no (justifiable) comeback, once you're losing you'll be gone quick.

Not sour grapes, we should have lost today by more than we did. Just glad it's out the way and we can go again against other teams. Looking forward to Cov already.
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the thing about it is, teams like Cardiff go up and come down, just a like slick footballing teams like Holloway’s that aren’t strong enough to get automatic but can win playoffs. The end results are the same mostly unless you pull off a Burnley.
 
If Cardiff did Shithousery lessons, I'm in... Cos they were masters, I watched their no 4 & 5 off the ball & they were showing their. Mastery of the art all afternoon
 
Well beaten today. Interesting to see how Critch reacts
for Tuesday. Amazed we went into the half time break still level. These kind of results will happen this season so not overly disappointed. Its how Critch and the squad learn adapt and improve that matter. It was great to be back in the ground, still the same people either side of me. Fantastic atmosphere as well.
Onwards and upwards.
 
CGP1 said:
Can't add much. Costero used the exact word I was going to. Cardiff aren't a good team, they're an efficient one. Very very efficient, and really well set up and drilled to deal with what we offered for much of the game.

Games like this always ask an interesting question, how much as a supporter are you prepared to concede in terms of entertainment versus results. Cardiff will 99.9% certain finish above us this year, and as others have said will be near the top.

Personally I couldn't face watching a team of oversized, well drilled linebackers every week, and I'm glad McCarthy isn't our manager. But if winning at any cost of entertainment is what one wants, then he's the man for the job, and good luck to all of them. While you're winning games, there's no (justifiable) comeback, once you're losing you'll be gone quick.

Not sour grapes, we should have lost today by more than we did. Just glad it's out the way and we can go again against other teams. Looking forward to Cov already.
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I wouldn't want to watch that shit either. Hopefully we will improve and take them apart at their place. Wouldn't be that surprising!
 
clappers said:
Yep agree with that. Pressure if the first home match to deal with aswell with a new team.

the thing about it is, teams like Cardiff go up and come down, just a like slick footballing teams like Holloway’s that aren’t strong enough to get automatic but can win playoffs. The end results are the same mostly unless you pull off a Burnley.
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I was thinking that as well. As much as I think they might go up playing this kind of agricultural football, once in the premier League they try and change but neither the manager nor the players can change overnight, even when they spend big on foreign imports. So they end up with some weird hybrid game. But they are not very good at the proper football and their agricultural style is weakened by trying to intermittently play. Result manager sacked and relegation. Stoke managed to stay in the PL playing like that because they had no ambition beyond a lower mid table finish every year. Today didn't work for us but we'll get better.
 
clappers said:
the thing about it is, teams like Cardiff go up and come down, just a like slick footballing teams like Holloway’s that aren’t strong enough to get automatic but can win playoffs. The end results are the same mostly unless you pull off a Burnley.
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At half time I was thinking "how can we play against this and are we ready for the Championship?" But we did do better second half, and we aren't yet sorted in defence, midfield or attack. We need improvement without a doubt but we don't need to mimic that, we just need to learn how to deal with it and find the way to create the platform to play our own game.
 
voyeur said:
At half time I was thinking "how can we play against this and are we ready for the Championship?" But we did do better second half, and we aren't yet sorted in defence, midfield or attack. We need improvement without a doubt but we don't need to mimic that, we just need to learn how to deal with it and find the way to create the platform to play our own game.
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Here here. We've been so lucky over the years, I know there's been exceptions but generally I've been fortunate to watch teams trying to play football, with varying success.

I remember my manager from several teams ago who was a Preston fanatic, he talked about the John Beck years and he came away feeling empty having won 3-4 nowt. Cardiff of course are huge grades up from that, but the comparison stands. Fans will tolerate crap football only while it wins.

Roll on Tuesday
 
tangysider said:
Bad day at the office
Do not think Cardiff were more skillul but they were streetwise in how far to push fouls wothout getting penalised.
Hopefully lessons learned, I was most disappointed with our passing and crossing, if Garbs is our dead ball specialist, I think he needs to practice more.
I might put a bet on we beat Cardiff at their place, as they had easy 3 points to night, but remember a Ipswich at home last season being a wake up call
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Cardiff fan here.
We were not at full strength at all today missing a couple of players and the likes of Moore who scored 20 goals last season Murphy and Colwell who are getting back to fitness. Murphy who cost us £11m and never got on! fully expect all 3 to start the next games and when we play you at ours all 3 are shoe ins to be starting. Tomlin is injured along with two CB’s and another striker. We have depth and physicality, that’s what’s needed in this division. You looked too lightweight and were bullied all game. I’m sure you’ll adapt.
 
Bluebird76 said:
Cardiff fan here.
We were not at full strength at all today missing a couple of players and the likes of Moore who scored 20 goals last season Murphy and Colwell who are getting back to fitness. Murphy who cost us £11m and never got on! fully expect all 3 to start the next games and when we play you at ours all 3 are shoe ins to be starting. Tomlin is injured along with two CB’s and another striker. We have depth and physicality, that’s what’s needed in this division. You looked too lightweight and were bullied all game. I’m sure you’ll adapt.
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I think your last sentence is spot on, though I did think in the second half we had the better quality on the ball. We just lack the guile and the physical presence.
 
Bluebird76 said:
Cardiff fan here.
We were not at full strength at all today missing a couple of players and the likes of Moore who scored 20 goals last season Murphy and Colwell who are getting back to fitness. Murphy who cost us £11m and never got on! fully expect all 3 to start the next games and when we play you at ours all 3 are shoe ins to be starting. Tomlin is injured along with two CB’s and another striker. We have depth and physicality, that’s what’s needed in this division. You looked too lightweight and were bullied all game. I’m sure you’ll adapt.
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don't know about your missing players but your summary of the game is spot on. You bulled us all over the park. My fear is we haven't got the players to adapt. That said I doubt there's a team as physical as you in the division. It was a harsh wake up call for the team and fans today. The physical teams will turn us over comfortably and the good football teams will beat us easily too with their pace and movement. What we need to do is compete and beat the teams who are a mixture of both.

Some people on this thread could clearly see the problems we had. It wasn't being negative, it was just stating it as it was. OL clearly couldn't.
And Voy, we desperately missed a target man today.
 
100% need both. All our ball players except for Giles were not playing today. Tomlin, Colwell, Murphy etc. We usually go with what we did today away from home to keep it tight at the back and dominate the set piece. When you got the ball down you looked decent. You’ll be ok I think. Just buy a couple of 6ft 7 CB’s like we have. 😂
 
20togo said:
don't know about your missing players but your summary of the game is spot on. You bulled us all over the park. My fear is we haven't got the players to adapt. That said I doubt there's a team as physical as you in the division. It was a harsh wake up call for the team and fans today. The physical teams will turn us over comfortably and the good football teams will beat us easily too with their pace and movement. What we need to do is compete and beat the teams who are a mixture of both.

Some people on this thread could clearly see the problems we had. It wasn't being negative, it was just stating it as it was. OL clearly couldn't.
And Voy, we desperately missed a target man today.
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A target man maybe. But you can beat those teams without them. It was in midfield we lost it, we got over powered like we did last week, and our struggle to defend throw ins too.
 
Don't you just love it when a hiccup occurs and this forum suddenly becomes awash with qualified refs and managers. 😀
 
tangerine_neil said:
Mick McCarthy probably thought it was his birthday when he saw Lavery, Bowler, Carey, Ekpiteta on the bench. He will have watched us midweek. Played right into Cardiff’s hands.
Need to wise up for Tuesday.
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Think you're overstating the case. We just aren't quite ready to deal with what Cardiff threw at us. We could have snook a draw today, but it would have been fortunate, and starting with those players you mention wouldn't have addressed the problems we faced, I think. We got physically beaten up, those 4 wouldn't have changed that.
 
Just loved the attitude of Lavery when he came on. Squaring up to their giant defenders..showing bravery and desire.. looking for the ball and trying to make things happen. A bright spark in an otherwise damp squib of a performance. We looked like the naive new boys whereas they looked like they are.. an organised well established Championship club.
 
cresser said:
Just loved the attitude of Lavery when he came on. Squaring up to their giant defenders..showing bravery and desire.. looking for the ball and trying to make things happen. A bright spark in an otherwise damp squib of a performance. We looked like the naive new boys whereas they looked like they are.. an organised well established Championship club.
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We will improve and we will be better than them. They did good throw ins, fouled a lot and the ref did nowt. They deserved to win but let's not glorify their performance. Sort ourselves out a bit and we can go down there and beat them. No question.
 
The ref played his part today had he gave yellows early doors like he should have that would’ve been a warning and they wouldn’t have carried on fouling all the time especially their 4&5
Ref was shyte and just let them get away with almost everything
Had we got the pen for the clear handball they wouldn’t have scored their second and would probably have ended 1-1.
Cardiff weren’t as good as some are making out
Different capable ref= different game
Refs have a hell of a lot to answer for
 
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cresser said:
Just loved the attitude of Lavery when he came on. Squaring up to their giant defenders..showing bravery and desire.. looking for the ball and trying to make things happen. A bright spark in an otherwise damp squib of a performance. We looked like the naive new boys whereas they looked like they are.. an organised well established Championship club.
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spot on ... we lacked desire and quality on the ball. Lavery and Bowler just go for it - we need that. Anderson and Hamilton woeful, Husband seemed weak too. Gotta beat big players with tricky football, we bottled it.
 
The big thing about today for me, aside from being second best all over the park, is we are just too nice. It's all very well wanting to play like Barcelona, but you have to earn that right.
Size doesn't always matter, having that edge and presence does, Lavery showed that when he came on.
Ekpiteta HAS to come back in and Husband moved to left back, putting in some of those crunching tackles, stuff to get the crowd even more up for it.
Dougall needs to start kicking some arses in midfield, in the way he should have have got booked in every game he played last season.
Then, if the manager could help by picking forward players, who are quite obviously in form, we might get somewhere.
All in my opinion as a football fan on a football message board, who has never managed a football league club.
 
Our first season in the champ back in 07-08, we finished 19th with big ben as our top scorer with 9 goals.... if we can do it then with those players then we can definitely do it now with a better team and a better manager!

Derby and the nobbers will finish below us, just gotta make sure there's a 3rd team below us as well! Poventry maybe? This game on Tuesday is almost a must win as they are a team we should definitely be looking at coming out on top against.
 
Cardiff rely on their strength and their height.
Personally I think they will be there, or thereabouts, at the end of the season.
They out muscled us and won almost every header in defence.
Why didn't Lavery start the game? Why bring him on so late?
This will be a tough season.
 
SwannDangerous said:
Our first season in the champ back in 07-08, we finished 19th with big ben as our top scorer with 9 goals.... if we can do it then with those players then we can definitely do it now with a better team and a better manager!

Derby and the nobbers will finish below us, just gotta make sure there's a 3rd team below us as well! Poventry maybe? This game on Tuesday is almost a must win as they are a team we should definitely be looking at coming out on top against.
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Huddersfield and Posh.
 
SwannDangerous said:
Hull are potentials as well.

There's definitely enough teams that are weaker than us, and with less spirit.
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Yes. These teams are at a similar level but I believe we will improve more than at least 3. That may turn out to be too optimistic, we don't have the funds to buy our way up the Championship table, L1 was much more straight forward, but I think we will do enough to stay up. We are not at full strength yet with the players we have and haven't finished bringing players in either. And we will learn and adapt.
 
SwannDangerous said:
Our first season in the champ back in 07-08, we finished 19th with big ben as our top scorer with 9 goals.... if we can do it then with those players then we can definitely do it now with a better team and a better manager!

Derby and the nobbers will finish below us, just gotta make sure there's a 3rd team below us as well! Poventry maybe? This game on Tuesday is almost a must win as they are a team we should definitely be looking at coming out on top against.
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I honestly think our 2007/8 side was more skilful going forward and stronger defensively than yesterday's team.
 
Henshman said:
I honestly think our 2007/8 side was more skilful going forward and stronger defensively than yesterday's team.
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I would agree with yesterday's team yes, but his selections have been a bit strange tbh.

We've brought in quality forward thinking players and are leaving them on the bench, whilst leaving out our quality defenders and playing keogh instead.

I think our squad on the whole is better than the team that kept us up in 07-08. With the exception of RB which I think has been mentioned all too often!
 
Critch's appraisal of the game and of the Championship...

www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk

Neil Critchley: Championship no tougher than Blackpool expected

Blackpool’s return to the Championship has been every inch as difficult as Neil Critchley was anticipating.
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"But we weren’t persistent enough with what we were trying to do and what our plan was, and that allowed Cardiff to impose their style of game on us.

“They get the momentum and we’re not good enough to wrestle that back from them.

“We have to show a bit more belief in what we’re doing, especially when things aren’t going our way.

“When we did show that in the second half, we had a very good team pinned back in their own half for a good spell.

"If it goes 1-1, with the crowd behind us and the momentum, then quite quickly football can change."

“You’re not always going to be picture perfect – it’s not a beauty contest. You might be rubbish for 60 minutes but win the game in the last 30, that’s football.

“But over the course of the 90 minutes, I’ve got no complaints with Saturday’s result.”
 
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