Maxwell is our number one keeper

Seaside Aggro

Seaside Aggro

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Chin up Grimmy. Train hard and you’ll get a place back on the bench:
“When Chris Maxwell is back that will be important because he gives us a bit more experience in certain big games.
“When he has played this year, from my point of view he hasn’t made too many errors and he’s almost a calming influence.
“It’s important we have as many of those types of players in the next few games as possible.”
Gerzette
 
He’s spot on with this for me, though I do think we need to be looking for a new keeper if we stay up.
 
more words which won't endear him to our fanbase. For me, they are thoughts that should have been kept to himself. Both are ok keepers but Maxwell is out injured and Grimshaw needs the confidence going into games knowing that no matter how well he performs he's likely to be benched as soon as Maxwell is fit again. And I was some-one who supported Maxwell being brought back straight in when he first got injured last season.
 
So I take it that Maxwell is fit for tomorrow? As surely nobody is stupid enough to say that the GK who is currently in goal due to the other keeper being out injured isn't his preferred keeper.
 
TangerineTed said:
Has the Tosser really said this??

Jeez get out of our club now!
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Apart from the chin up Grimmy yep.

He's basically sticking two fingers up to our policy of getting in players making them better and then selling them for a profit to reinvest.
Grimmy should start and Max on the bench same for how we can't get two of our signings Wright and Thompson (Thursday apart) in the team.

Looking more and more like MA is the wrong person in the wrong job it happens doesn't necessarily mean he's crap.
 
FY5_Seasider said:
So I take it that Maxwell is fit for tomorrow? As surely nobody is stupid enough to say that the GK who is currently in goal due to the other keeper being out injured isn't his preferred keeper.
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yeh, you could read it that way for sure.
 
Absolutely nothing wrong with that statement. And I can't believe Grimshaw isn't getting absolute pelters for that 2nd goal . He didn't appear to even recognise the fact the player was going to go for goal . Just stood there motionless.
And are players too precious these days and can't be criticised anymore ?
 
ansdellmafia said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with that statement. And I can't believe Grimshaw isn't getting absolute pelters for that 2nd goal . He didn't appear to even recognise the fact the player was going to go for goal . Just stood there motionless.
And are players too precious these days and can't be criticised anymore ?
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Pelters for the 2nd goal? Are you mental? The defence let a player run at him straight on goal from 70 metres. Almost every single professional footballer should score that goal. Keeper absolutely blameless.
 
Even if you think these things, you don’t say them publicly.

I’m sure he’s just doing things for a laugh now, seeing how many things he can do to piss fans off before he’s sent packing.

Not only is he a terrible tactician, he’s clearly terrible at man management as well.

Literally EVERY single players game has gone backwards under his mis-management.
 
The fact that MA cites Maxwell for calmness and leadership isn't a slight on Grimmy, it shows whats wrong in front of the keeper. Get that sorted next week please.

I'd always play DG ahead of CM for 2 sound reasons, one he's the better keeper and two you'd be protecting and enhancing an asset. He's worth maybe a mill now, and worth next to nowt as a No 2.
 
Tangerine_Dream said:
Even if you think these things, you don’t say them publicly.

I’m sure he’s just doing things for a laugh now, seeing how many things he can do to piss fans off before he’s sent packing.

Not only is he a terrible tactician, he’s clearly terrible at man management as well.

Literally EVERY single players game has gone backwards under his mis-management.
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You call it man management, I call it mollycoddling . Poor sensitive souls .
 
JJpool said:
Grimmy is clearly ahead of Maxwell for anyone who knows the game.

Think Connor on the podcast mentioned it, his stats make him one of the better keepers in the league.
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I’d be interested to see these ‘stats’… I think Connor was chatting shit
 
I was a Grimmy man last season, I thought he was brilliant. He has tailed off though and there's been some dodgy moments.

They're neck and neck for me at the moment and I think they're both decent keepers at this level. I have noticed that the standard of keepers isn't that good in the Championship, even Burnley's is really dodgy with the ball at his feet.
 
ansdellmafia said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with that statement. And I can't believe Grimshaw isn't getting absolute pelters for that 2nd goal . He didn't appear to even recognise the fact the player was going to go for goal . Just stood there motionless.
And are players too precious these days and can't be criticised anymore ?
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Actual errors should be criticised but those statements are just seem to be a fundamental questioning of Grimm's basic ability.

Another two players though who have gone backwards under Appleton
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’d be interested to see these ‘stats’… I think Connor was chatting shit
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Conor chats shit on Gary Madine from time to time, but I've seen the stats that come from one of those sites where they draw graphs and turn football into pie charts. Grimmy has very good numbers. He saves more than he should.
 
td53 said:
Conor chats shit on Gary Madine from time to time, but I've seen the stats that come from one of those sites where they draw graphs and turn football into pie charts. Grimmy has very good numbers. He saves more than he should.
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I’m aware that he ranks (or did at one point) fairly well at shot stopping (as did Maxwell), but in overall terms he’s nowhere near one of the best….

In fact I’m pretty sure both Grimshaw and Maxwell are bottom of the pile on certain stats …
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m aware that he ranks (or did at one point) fairly well at shot stopping (as did Maxwell), but in overall terms he’s nowhere near one of the best….

In fact I’m pretty sure both Grimshaw and Maxwell are bottom of the pile on certain stats …
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Grimmy rates quite low on sartorial elegance. I like his style to be fair. Maxwell is much better at looking well groomed and keeping his sock pulled up nearly.
 
td53 said:
Grimmy rates quite low on sartorial elegance. I like his style to be fair. Maxwell is much better at looking well groomed and keeping his sock pulled up nearly.
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😂I think the big one at the minute has been how each of them organise and steady the defence.

It was ages ago now and Jordan Gabriel was on the Preview Show and was asked sine questions about Grimmy… one of which was about him organising and talking to his defence…

It was more what JG (being the polite lad he is) didn’t say, rather than what he did, but I got the distinct impression that that aspect of the game wasn’t DG’s forte and that perhaps the defence preferred to play with Maxy in between the sticks.

Of course, there’s not a great deal between them and it’s very much a case (I think) of horse for courses, with Maxwell vein favoured as we lack experience in the side generally.

I’m not convinced either of them are particularly stand out at this level though and unless Grimshaw improves dramatically, I’d honestly be looking elsewhere and for someone who offers more of a physical presence.
 
Maxwell is absolutely rooted to his line with any cross.
Grimmy is a much better shot stopper.
Maxwell is slightly better with his feet but I’d rather have Grimmy every game going forward
 
Not much between them in my view. I still haven't changed my mind about Grimshaw could have done better with Sheffield U second goal he showed too much of near post. We have more problems than the keeper situation.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
😂I think the big one at the minute has been how each of them organise and steady the defence.

It was ages ago now and Jordan Gabriel was on the Preview Show and was asked sine questions about Grimmy… one of which was about him organising and talking to his defence…

It was more what JG (being the polite lad he is) didn’t say, rather than what he did, but I got the distinct impression that that aspect of the game wasn’t DG’s forte and that perhaps the defence preferred to play with Maxy in between the sticks.

Of course, there’s not a great deal between them and it’s very much a case (I think) of horse for courses, with Maxwell vein favoured as we lack experience in the side generally.

I’m not convinced either of them are particularly stand out at this level though and unless Grimshaw improves dramatically, I’d honestly be looking elsewhere and for someone who offers more of a physical presence.
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I think Grimmy is very good. I don't especially see him as weak in any particular area. He's not commanding but equally, I don't think he's pathetic either. He's a low key keeper and I like that. He's a loner who tunes into the game and reads it very well in general. He makes weird saves sometimes that remind me of Neville Southall - one you can't see coming because he's predicted something. He's obviously not as good as Southall who is the best keeper, I've ever laid eyes on but there's something about Grimmy for me.

Maxwell isn't a bad keeper at all. He has some advantages over Grimmy for sure.

I'm not so into big commanding keepers for the sake of it. Steve Banks is my favourite of all time I reckon. I can see your points though and Grimmy does have plenty of room to improve - this is, however only his second season of being a first team keeper so you'd expect that.

I, like I think 20s says above too was in favour of giving Maxi a go - there's logic in the idea he's the experienced head - I just haven't really seen the evidence that we're notably better with him in the team. As you say, perhaps the defence feel better, but I'm not especially seeing it on the pitch. We seem to be fairly prone to calamity whoever is in goals.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’d be interested to see these ‘stats’… I think Connor was chatting shit
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PdxTangerine said:
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Yep other stats I've seen have him ahead too overall, although some are close.

Grimmy maybe hasn't had his best season, but we've seen him perform better when he's had a run of games and full of confidence, he has a higher ceiling.

Add in what stats don't really measure, the flapping from corners or rooted to the line, nervousness it creates. Also hes young and a saleable asset so makes sense even if they were close to play him really.

Although Maxwells experience is always useful, hopefully he can help pass some on to Grimmy.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Maxwell is such a good organiser and talker he let a corner in 👍🏼

I think he blamed the liner, the guy at the front post, anyone but himself.

Could be why Appleton rates him more, similar character.
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That was a bad moment, terrible infact, tbf whoever was at the front post didn't cover themselves in glory. But as you say. Just like it's the managers job to organise a team so too the keeper at corners.

As for similar characters maybe in a blame principle, but one screams and shouts if a decision goes against him, the other shows nothing.
 
Grimmy is the better keeper now and will only get better with age, keepers do, I understood at the time bringing Maxwells experience back in but it should of been a temporary measure, plus holding back a potential asset of millions for one at the end of his career, all wrong.
 
Grimmy is far better than Maxwell. It’s not even open to debate. If we let Maxwell go this window he’d probably go to a good league two team.
 
20togo said:
more words which won't endear him to our fanbase. For me, they are thoughts that should have been kept to himself. Both are ok keepers but Maxwell is out injured and Grimshaw needs the confidence going into games knowing that no matter how well he performs he's likely to be benched as soon as Maxwell is fit again. And I was some-one who supported Maxwell being brought back straight in when he first got injured last season.
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Yep, constantly spoiling for a fight IMO
 
I've worked for bosses like Appleton - means well with his comments but a pat on the back for one is like a giant kick up the backside for someone stood next to them!
 
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