Pilley Sentencing Sweepstake

parker14 said:
I think it was an open secret for most of them. Equally as guilty as far as I can see, they were part of it.
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Spot on. I had a week at the BES call centre on Faraday. I was going through the script each newbie had in front of them & when I said over the phone to a new business "I represent BES" I got a tap on the shoulder & informed not to mention BES but use a made up company name. Alarm bells rang plus being surrounded by coked up gobshites I thought get me out of here.
 
Willie Mcgrotty said:
Spot on. I had a week at the BES call centre on Faraday. I was going through the script each newbie had in front of them & when I said over the phone to a new business "I represent BES" I got a tap on the shoulder & informed not to mention BES but use a made up company name. Alarm bells rang plus being surrounded by coked up gobshites I thought get me out of here.
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Presumably you were able to get out That might not apply to everyone who works there
 
Southend tangerine said:
They are victims too but I don’t think it’s the people who worked for Pilley who are responsible
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My son's best friend used to work for BES around the time they got raided and he knew they where dodgy going on's as did many of his colleagues, so you can luck it from another perspective Pilley is the one who's taking the fall for all this and their lucky that being compliant they haven't had their collars felt.
 
One question will be how long Pilley is disqualified as a director. Given the nature of the offences and their seriousness it’s likely to be far longer than his prison sentence. And the penalties for breaching that ban are severe …
 
Yep . I also know a lad who worked at BES.

They all knew the score he reckons whether he’s right or not I don’t know some might not have done .

At the end of the day they ll have to get jobs elsewhere if it comes down to it.

If you look hard enough and you are fit jobs are available I think .
 
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We could buy Mbape for £200 million a year, but only if we can give him champions league football as well. Unfortunately that rules us out for three years.
 
Wizaard said:
Apparently there's a labour market shortage, meaning plenty of jobs out there, especially contact centre work, like these jobs.
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Great but are the jobs based in Fleetwood? Minimum wage becomes a lot less if travel expenses and child care costs are factored in. My point is that it is easy to take the moral high ground but equally I’m sure we all know people who are in jobs that they hate but are trapped in them.
There were people working for BFC who didn’t agree with the Oystons. Are you saying that they should have refused to work for them?
I will say again that I have sympathy for the people who will lose their jobs as a result of this.
 
Southend tangerine said:
Great but are the jobs based in Fleetwood? Minimum wage becomes a lot less if travel expenses and child care costs are factored in. My point is that it is easy to take the moral high ground but equally I’m sure we all know people who are in jobs that they hate but are trapped in them.
There were people working for BFC who didn’t agree with the Oystons. Are you saying that they should have refused to work for them?
I will say again that I have sympathy for the people who will lose their jobs as a result of this.
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I get what you're saying about the jobs market in Fleetwood and the reasons why you wouldn't want to travel far. However, working for the Oystons isn't comparable.
Like it or not, BFC was not run in an illegal manner.

If I was asked to, in effect, fleece pensioners and small businesses I'd look elsewhere.
 
Wizaard said:
I get what you're saying about the jobs market in Fleetwood and the reasons why you wouldn't want to travel far. However, working for the Oystons isn't comparable.
Like it or not, BFC was not run in an illegal manner.

If I was asked to, in effect, fleece pensioners and small businesses I'd look elsewhere.
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They could work for Fisherman's Friend or pack ice.
 
Unbelievable his defence asking the judge to go easy on pilley. I think that all 4 will be jailed tomorrow maybe one will get a suspended and it won’t be Pilley
 
L’étranger said:
Give the guy a break. Perhaps those loved ones are struggling to find an energy supplier and Pilley has offered to help.
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That's how loan sharks work, find people struggling to get credit then fleece them, there is nothing in that article that mentions him showing any sympathy for anyone but himself
 
Mr Laidlow said Pilley had "built a business which provided huge employment and economical benefits to the people of the area." He had "remained true to his roots by being committed to the area in which he grew up."

Blimey, what a guy.

Thank fuck he couldn't afford BFC at the time.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Mr Laidlow said Pilley had "built a business which provided huge employment and economical benefits to the people of the area." He had "remained true to his roots by being committed to the area in which he grew up."

Blimey, what a guy.

Thank fuck he couldn't afford BFC at the time.
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He was not that committed to the area when he laid off 30% of his call centre staff and moved the centre to South Africa, ???? , he is a convicted conman, always was and always will be
 
Matesrates said:
I can’t understand why it takes so long, the judge has had several weeks to deliberate, surely it’s a simple case of “I’m sentencing you to 7/8/10 years” or whatever.
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The judge will have to go through a very prescriptive set of calculations, explain exactly how he has got to the final sentence, which category he found the cases to be, highlight any aggravating and mitigating factors, explain why certain sentences are concurrent or consecutive et cetera

Any mistakes could lead to grounds for appeal
 
Love BFC🍊 said:
The sentences should be consecutive not concurrent imo
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Not necessarily but my point is that the Judge has to go through the correct processes and get it right. He can’t just wander in to court say 8 years and leave
Any mistakes will be exposed on Appeal
 
tigger said:
Not necessarily but my point is that the Judge has to go through the correct processes and get it right. He can’t just wander in to court say 8 years and leave
Any mistakes will be exposed on Appeal
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But if say he got 4 years for each offence as an example = 16 years and they run concurrent he’d only serve 4years( two thirds probably) as they’d all be served at the same time. If consecutive they’d run one after the other
 
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Love BFC🍊 said:
But if say he got 4 years for each offence as an example = 16 years and they run concurrent he’d only serve 4years( two thirds probably) as they’d all be served at the same time. If concurrent they’d run one after the other
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That would be consecutive
 
Well here we are, Tuesday afternoon, sentencing was supposed to be a day and a half starting yesterday. What’s happened?
 
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