Squad of 22

BlackpoolsFinest said:
The fact it has been introduced for the season which will see more fixture congestion than ever before is even more ridiculous.
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what it’s doing is making lower league clubs effectively semi professional in comparison with Championship clubs and the gap will be massive. Utterly uncompetitive wages and tiny squads in comparison.
 
I think we have a good 5 players we can ditch and bring in to really strengthen the squad - I actually think this could be to our advantage this year.
 
From Gazette...

The EFL’s new guidance on salary caps and squad sizes has added a new element to summer recruitment, but it’s something Blackpool have embraced.

“I see it as a challenge,” Critchley added. “We welcomed the rule that was put in place, we were for it so we’ve been planning with that in mind all along.

“The signings we’ve made have all been with that rule in mind, so yes it’s a challenge but we’re the same as everyone else in League One and Two at this moment in time.

“If it comes down to a bit more of a level playing field then we believe with good coaching, good recruitment and a good academy to support your first team, then that’s where you can hopefully get an advantage in the future.”

Pool have already been incredibly active this summer, bringing in eight players in total but a centre-back and a left-back remain high on the priority list.

When asked if further additions are close, Critchley replied: “Not at the moment, no. It’s a work in progress, as I said the other night, and I think we have to be patient.
“Identifying the players sometimes is the easy bit, while negotiating can prove a little bit difficult. But it’s all part of recruitment.

“We remain busy looking but we have to be patient. Are we looking to add to the squad? Yes we are, so that remains a work in progress.

“It’s across the board where we’re looking. But you’ve only got to look at our squad to identify those areas yourself.

“We obviously had a left-back and a centre-back in on trial the other night, which might give you an indication.

“If we think there are players we can bring into the squad that will improve us, and want to come to Blackpool, which is really important, with the right character and fit into the new salary cap, if they fit into those categories and we feel it’s going to be good for us, then we’ll try and do what we feel is the right thing for the club.”
 
Thanks for that Voy. It’s all very well speaking of coaching giving the advantage in this division, but it is quite a localised focus that ignores the gap that will develop between Championship and the leagues below and also how easy it will be for teams to come down and maintain a big advantagw that these well schooled teams may struggle to compete with. And how teams above will easily be able to pick off for a footballing pittance ,wage wise, any players that look decent prospects or anywhere near championship level.

might be good for a competitive league one within itself, and for finances of lower league clubs year to year but the future? Hmmmm.
 
clappers said:
Thanks for that Voy. It’s all very well speaking of coaching giving the advantage in this division, but it is quite a localised focus that ignores the gap that will develop between Championship and the leagues below and also how easy it will be for teams to come down and maintain a big advantagw that these well schooled teams may struggle to compete with. And how teams above will easily be able to pick off for a footballing pittance ,wage wise, any players that look decent prospects or anywhere near championship level.

might be good for a competitive league one within itself, and for finances of lower league clubs year to year but the future? Hmmmm.
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I'm sure you are right. Though clubs that come down are often on a downward spiral, can be in a financial mess etc. Personally I think there is some sense in regulating spending and equalising it across the clubs, but it does harden the gulf between divisions, especially L1 and the Championship. There are three promotion places though, and well run clubs will prosper, hopefully. I puts the emphasis on doing things well rather than splashing loads of cash irresponsibly. We are well set up for that now.

Looks like a lot of players are going to be out of work, mind.
 
Terminallytangerine said:
Has anybody got the algorithm?
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I haven't got the algorithm (baby) but i reckon Sims may count as under 21. He was under 21 on 1st January and in the EPL it's your age on 1st January of the year that the season commences that determines eligibility. If Devitt is left out, and Sims doesn't count, we currently have only 20 players in the squad, two spare places to bring in new faces. I think Garrity will go out or be left out, so that would allow three more players to come in.
 
I agree in principal with the salary cap, but the player limit seems strange. Surely as long as you stay within the salary cap then you should be able to have as many players in your squad as you want? I also agree with those who say the gap will widen between league one and the Championship. The caps only really work if all divisions have to work with them.
 
It's already very difficult for clubs that get promoted from L1 to the Championship. There is talk of an 18m salary cap in the Championship, which tells you how much higher the wages are up there - quite a few clubs will be spending a lot more than that now. If we get promoted this season, it would present a huge problem, trying to function at a higher level where wages are maybe ten times as high as L1, and it's not down to the introduction of caps, it's down to the massive gap that already exists. The Championship needs financial controls even more than L1 and L2 really - how do clubs in that division with 10- 20,000 attendances afford to pay out so much in wages? The Sky Prem money and parachute payments has created an almost impossible ladder. Going up the ladder is very difficult, and coming down it is extremely precarious. We may end up with the same teams getting promoted and relegated each season! Ha ha. With the rest staying in the comfort zone, avoiding the perils of promotion and relegation.

Basically, the gaps between the EPL and Championship, and Championship and L1, have become far too wide, financially. That isn't down to salary caps.
 
Voy. I'm not arguing with you over your interpretation of the rules but I really would like to see them in writing. I think Scrafters needs to get some proper investigative journalism done.
Something else that has come in is the "homegrown" rule. This isn't the one about your own academy players.
I think we now have to have either 7or 8 homegrown players from within the UK or played in the UK for 3 years in the squad increasing next season to 12. This is partly a Brexit thing. Probably wont have any impact on us but will apply to the PL. Obviously they are against and are using it as a threat about not giving the EFL any bail out money if they don't support them.
 
Insider said:
Voy. I'm not arguing with you over your interpretation of the rules but I really would like to see them in writing. I think Scrafters needs to get some proper investigative journalism done.
Something else that has come in is the "homegrown" rule. This isn't the one about your own academy players.
I think we now have to have either 7or 8 homegrown players from within the UK or played in the UK for 3 years in the squad increasing next season to 12. This is partly a Brexit thing. Probably wont have any impact on us but will apply to the PL. Obviously they are against and are using it as a threat about not giving the EFL any bail out money if they don't support them.
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No worries, I'm just trying to glean what I can. There's not much in the public domain.
 
No one really knows what the actual rules are because it's been rushed though and started immediately instead of being given a season to get the rules 100% explained and in writing. Yet another f*ck up by the EFL.
 
Tangerine 🍊 🍊 🍊 said:
No one really knows what the actual rules are because it's been rushed though and started immediately instead of being given a season to get the rules 100% explained and in writing. Yet another f*ck up by the EFL.
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The clubs know the rules! And this season is a transition season, with some transitional rules like average wages, and not counting wages of players left out of the squad.
 
voyeur said:
The clubs know the rules! And this season is a transition season, with some transitional rules like average wages, and not counting wages of players left out of the squad.
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I'm talking about fans and journalists, it's not been made clear so we don't really know whats going on. Before bringing in rules about the player cap, surely it should be explained so we all know whats going on. There is nothing on the EFL page explaining it properly. So we are left not having a clue where we actually stand regarding some player like Sims and who actually qualifies as home grown talent. No one can comfortably say that this hasn't been rushed through and left people confused with no where to find out the facts of how it works.
 
Tangerine 🍊 🍊 🍊 said:
I'm talking about fans and journalists, it's not been made clear so we don't really know whats going on. Before bringing in rules about the player cap, surely it should be explained so we all know whats going on. There is nothing on the EFL page explaining it properly. So we are left not having a clue where we actually stand regarding some player like Sims and who actually qualifies as home grown talent. No one can comfortably say that this hasn't been rushed through and left people confused with no where to find out the facts of how it works.
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Yeah sure, it should be made clear. The clubs could clarify things too.
 
I think we have to ditch two players - there are 23 there (Devitt will obviously be off), three are under 21 and I still think we need four to come in. Still wonder if Feeney might go out and maybe one other?
 
Sadler's Brylcreem said:
I think we have to ditch two players - there are 23 there (Devitt will obviously be off), three are under 21 and I still think we need four to come in. Still wonder if Feeney might go out and maybe one other?
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It'll be low earners that go out, not Feeney. Garrity/Howe perhaps.
 
"While the EFL has yet to release any official confirmation, clubs are also limited to a squad of 22 senior players aged 21 or over."
Interesting quote in Scrafters Gerzette story
 
Now Nuttall has gone to meet his Cobblers, I fink we could have room for 4 new signings, with Devitt left out, and assuming Garrity goes out on loan.

There are other potential loans too, like Howe and, at a push, Feeney. I reckon we are going to see 4 or 5 more new faces.

Brackets = players who don't count
CAPITALS = players likely to leave

GK Maxwell (Sims Fojticek)
RB Turton Howe
LB Husband
CB Ekpiteta Nottingham Thorniley
DM Virtue Robson Williams GARRITY (Antwi)
AM Anderson Ward Sarkic DEVITT (Shaw)
CA Yates Madine
WA Hamilton Kaikai Feeney
 
When I look at the squad I am not optimistic like others. Been impressed with CJ ,Keshi , Maxwell and Robson. Dont rate either RB at all. Think we are weak at CB. Yates and Madine dont look like consistantly putting the ball in the net. Hoping we can get about 4 quality players in before the first game. Hoping the manager can get the best out of players and us playing well as a team (so far he has which is the positive part.
To put into context, for me Tilt, Taylor-Moore, Ronan, KDH and Gnando would be in our top 11 easily. Hoping to see some quality come in RB, CB, LB , striker and midfield mystro. Still 2 weeks to go and then window still open, so a few quality signings and we will look much better.
 
LA-KINGS said:
When I look at the squad I am not optimistic like others. Been impressed with CJ ,Keshi , Maxwell and Robson. Dont rate either RB at all. Think we are weak at CB. Yates and Madine dont look like consistantly putting the ball in the net. Hoping we can get about 4 quality players in before the first game. Hoping the manager can get the best out of players and us playing well as a team (so far he has which is the positive part.
To put into context, for me Tilt, Taylor-Moore, Ronan, KDH and Gnando would be in our top 11 easily. Hoping to see some quality come in RB, CB, LB , striker and midfield mystro. Still 2 weeks to go and then window still open, so a few quality signings and we will look much better.
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Some truth in that. But it's a team game, with tactics and psychology and confidence playing a huge part. Last season the tactics, psychology and confidence were all shit. So we were crap in spite of having KDH, Moore etc.
 
I have said all along 4 loans 2 more permanents...I am all the more convinced I am right and then we have a huge opportunity to get up to the Championship
 
I think what we are seeing is a very clever piece of work in progress. Don't forget last season we got rid of/sent back 16 players and so far this season have only brought in 8. I think the fact we've got a friendly against Liverpool speaks volumes about the calibre we're now looking to.You can tell that Critchley is the sort who takes a shopping list to the supermarket rather than select stuff randomly! I expect at least 4 new faces which I agree could make a difference. The likes of Nottingham and Turton were never going to be first choice players but OK squad players.
 
Scrafters sums it up ...

If Sims counts as an U21, then Blackpool have 21 senior players. 20 if you don't count Devitt. Still plenty of room to do business if Devitt, Garrity etc leave.
 
PoolWarrior said:
Scrafters sums it up ...

If Sims counts as an U21, then Blackpool have 21 senior players. 20 if you don't count Devitt. Still plenty of room to do business if Devitt, Garrity etc leave.
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GK Maxwell (Sims Fojticek)
RB Turton Howe
LB Husband
CB Ekpiteta Nottingham Thorniley
DM Virtue Robson Williams (Antwi)
AM Anderson Ward Sarkic DEVITT (Shaw)
CA Yates Madine
WA Hamilton Kaikai Feeney Lubala

If Devitt goes I think that leaves 19 - so 3 places.

Wondering if Howe will go out on loan?
 
Looks like we could have a RB lined up, think we need LB and CH. If we are getting in a RB then that means Howe can go out on loan which would open up another place for an out and out striker. Weather that happens or not us anyones guess.
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see Feeney leave, it's hard to see how he fits in with all the other attacking options we now have.
I can see a Fonz-type deal being sorted where we let him walk once he has a team lined up.
 
Not sure another club will take on Feeney's wages, reputed to be one of our higher earners.
 
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