A few things still bugging me

Philbfctrois

Philbfctrois

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All this 'cash in' nonsense about Josh Bowler
He's by far our best player and anything less than about 7 million is an absolute steal. The club holds his contract so they should be telling clubs offering 3 million or so to fcuk right off.

Bit disappointed with the low home crowds this season, 9k or so yesterday so thats very few walk up sales, come on Blackpool fc do something with these match day prices for home fans.

Appleton is a vast improvement on Critchley, the football is fast and attacking which considering the injury list is remarkable, its about time he got the credit he deserves for the start to this season.

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Your Membership Scheme idea has all but killed the Walk On trade by the looks of it and I can’t say I’m surprised.

People just want to be able to buy a ticket and go to the game on a whim, rather than faffing around becoming ‘members’ and all that palava.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Your Membership Scheme idea has all but killed the Walk On trade by the looks of it and I can’t say I’m surprised.

People just want to be able to buy a ticket and go to the game on a whim, rather than faffing around becoming ‘members’ and all that palava.
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Like is said it was 2 years late and expensive

By all means have a membership for £20 quid or so that gives you a ticket for £20
 
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Philbfctrois said:
It used to work under the Oystons and a season ticket holder by default could buy additional tickets at a reduced price, that should be a minimum to be honest
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Maybe if they allowed the ST thing, but I just think a straightforward price for a ticket is best for home fans. There were probably less STH’s under Oystons…

I do think a bit of a PR and Marketing exercise would be a decent idea at sone point… Wake the Town up to the fact that they have a ** brilliant football team on their doorstep…
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Maybe if they allowed the ST thing, but I just think a straightforward price for a ticket is best for home fans. There were probably less STH’s under Oystons…

I do think a bit of a PR and Marketing exercise would be a decent idea at sone point… Wake the Town up to the fact that they have a ** brilliant football team on their doorstep…
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Yep agreed thank fcuk for that 👍
 
Walk up to ticket office, show local ID (driving licence etc..) buy ticket, go to game, enjoy game, maybe buy ticket next time, maybe buy ST next season.

Membership schemes have always been marketing bollocks.

It's not exactly a town short of other shit to do on a Saturday unlike say, Preston, stuff where you don't need to provide your blood type and what you were doing 23 months ago at 3pm.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Walk up to ticket office, show local ID (driving licence etc..) buy ticket, go to game, enjoy game, maybe buy ticket next time, maybe buy ST next season.

Membership schemes have always been marketing bollocks.

It's not exactly a town short of other shit to do on a Saturday unlike say, Preston.
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The problem is people from Blackpool aren't paying the current walk up price
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think just the general idea of having to fart about is the problem, rather than the price really.
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Agreed. We decided at the last minute to go to the Everton friendly when I found out (on here) that there was a cash potg in the North west. We tried the same thing for the Barrow game, but had to join a longish queue at the ticket office. We didn't go in because there was still a lengthy queue at KO time. I'm sure some of the prices for league games is off putting, but the faff doesn't help either. A few near me in the south were on holiday, so hopefully the gates will increase soon.

The players look to be settling in well to MA's system, so yep the football is better than under Crtichley, which isn't intended to understate what he achieved in his short time here.

Phil is right about Bowler, but I think he'll go for a steal as O/p says. Yesterday he was yet again very exciting to watch, not many players get people standing up (unless you're already stood) as soon as they receive the ball.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Your Membership Scheme idea has all but killed the Walk On trade by the looks of it and I can’t say I’m surprised.

People just want to be able to buy a ticket and go to the game on a whim, rather than faffing around becoming ‘members’ and all that palava.
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Well they need to get their head around it then. Although I do think the club should be pushing this with a proper marketing campaign
 
TonyEllisTopBins said:
Well they need to get their head around it then. Although I do think the club should be pushing this with a proper marketing campaign
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You can’t blame people for ‘not getting their head around it’.

Folk just want to make a simple snap decision and not jump through hoops to get a ticket.

I think maybe you need to just get your head round the fact that a Membership Scheme is great in principle, but a load of shit in practice.😂
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Your Membership Scheme idea has all but killed the Walk On trade by the looks of it and I can’t say I’m surprised.

People just want to be able to buy a ticket and go to the game on a whim, rather than faffing around becoming ‘members’ and all that palava.
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Spot on. There would have been another 2 in attendance if not for the membership/overpriced tickets. £42 quid if I was to buy a membership & ticket yesterday. Factor in petrol costs as I don’t live in the area now and it’s not value for money.
 
Nothing wrong with the Membership scheme but £15 to get one and then your having to pay more than the majority of games you went to last season as a non ST holder is a waste of time.
4 x Games £120
4 x Members £115 is hardly a pull.

The £30 is putting locals off(I speak to many) and until it's dropped expect lower crowds than last season but lets see how pig headed the board are it takes a bigger person to hold their hand up and say they got it wrong.

Agree about the cash in for Bowler keep him worth more than the few million in the till.
 
Can see the for‘s and againsts for the membership scheme. Maybe the pricing needs looking at? And maybe more can be done to market the club in the local area? I know that if I didn’t already attend games I wouldn’t know or hear that there was a local Championship Football Club!
It looks like we are hoping to build the fan base up the old fashioned way by providing a decent winning team and people will come!
Its going to get harder for football clubs and all entertainment sectors as the cost of living increases and the cost of utilities continue to spiral. People are going to have to prioritise heat or food never mind paying £30 to go to a football match!
Glad we have ST’s so not going to be a justification.
 
Being on the database is a membership thing so why they want to faff about even more and take 15 quid off you for nothing is beyond me.
We've stood still this season in growing the fan base and it's the pricing that's the problem. It's almost 'Oyston like 'to put on the ones that go financially instead of trying to encourage new support. Pricing is all wrong and particularly at this time in the world.
 
£30 has been great value for the last two games but in general it is way too much to pay… whatever happened to twenty’s plenty?…anyone with an iota of common sense would realise we are going to get virtually nil walk ons and the club must be happy with that…personally I would like to see the ground packed to the rafters
 
The one positive, I suppose… is that maybe people might fork out for a Membership to get access to the knob end fixture and then be incentivised to keep going…

If it was up to me… I’d be marketing the absolute bollocks out of that game over the next few weeks and coming up with some kind of incentive around it….
 
TANGERINETOWERPOWER said:
£30 has been great value for the last two games but in general it is way too much to pay… whatever happened to twenty’s plenty?…anyone with an iota of common sense would realise we are going to get virtually nil walk ons and the club must be happy with that…personally I would like to see the ground packed to the rafters
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More than a decade’s worth of inflation for a start off 😂
 
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A lot of the pricing since Sadler took over has been high.

This season is just not the price for the circumstances, its too high for casuals and adds in an extra unnecessary step for people to attend.

We haven't hit a good price point really since we've gone up.

OK the cat system gave games at 20, but they were fairly rare, but at least there. Seems a better system than this.

We really needed to capitalise on things going well, the time was then and now, you have to try and fill the stadium and build the fanbase, which we haven't tried to do enough of given all the issues we've been through, its still badly needed.

A proper pr campaign, but the issue is you can't market 30 quid in Blackpool, ok 25 with a membership but its not that marketable to people outside the hardcore.

The annoying thing is a 23 quid price only needs approx 700 extra pool fans, a couple hundred extra away fans to make the same cash. At that price and with it being pushed that seems eminently achievable.

There seems to be a lack of belief in a lower price strategy as its never been tried, or even trialed.

The problem now is unlike a high price, I can't see them ditching the membership scheme, as its already used by some and would undermine their purchases. You also can't really change the discount as it has to represent the cost saved over 3 games. So if it was dropped to 6 quid it would save 2 pound.

The advantage of full home ends is underestimated too imo.
 
The membership should be a fiver, that way it avoids away fans claiming their being charged more.

Other than that the pricing is ok. We're reliant on gate income at the end of the day, especially when Simon's capital is focused on the ground and training ground.
 
td53 said:
[BFC*3 mode on ] Is there any evidence for that or is that an opinion you've just pulled out of thin air to back up your position? [BFC*3 mode off]

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Evidence?

Nope… have I fuck got any evidence… I’m assuming everyone is the same as me, which is clearly not the case….

In fact I know it isn’t the case after waiting in the queue at Tesco last week for what felt like an eternity, whilst the bloke in front of me cashed in his numerous ‘vouchers’ and discount offer jobby’s.

So I suppose if the financial incentive is big enough, sone people probably could be arsed jumping through hoops…

Not me though… I’d rather pay £6 a game extra for a fast track pass to the half time bar 👍
 
Halifax71 said:
The membership should be a fiver, that way it avoids away fans claiming their being charged more.

Other than that the pricing is ok. We're reliant on gate income at the end of the day, especially when Simon's capital is focused on the ground and training ground.
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If its a fiver then it can only reduce the cost buy 1.66 or so I think. The efl rules on membership have been posted on here before.

Yesterdays attendance..

doesn't seem to be a figure out there? Swansea claiming they had 1500 there so I'd guess around 10,500 to 11,000?
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BFC_BFC_BFC said:
You can’t blame people for ‘not getting their head around it’.

Folk just want to make a simple snap decision and not jump through hoops to get a ticket.

I think maybe you need to just get your head round the fact that a Membership Scheme is great in principle, but a load of shit in practice.😂
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I hadn't picked up on all this. Does it mean that next time I come over I can't just turn up and buy a ticket like I always have in the past?
 
What do we reckon was the breakdown of yesterdays Attendance ?
8500 Season ticket
850 Brizzle
1500 POTG/corporate
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Evidence?

Nope… have I fuck got any evidence… I’m assuming everyone is the same as me, which is clearly not the case….

In fact I know it isn’t the case after waiting in the queue at Tesco last week for what felt like an eternity, whilst the bloke in front of me cashed in his numerous ‘vouchers’ and discount offer jobby’s.

So I suppose if the financial incentive is big enough, sone people probably could be arsed jumping through hoops…

Not me though… I’d rather pay £6 a game extra for a fast track pass to the half time bar 👍
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You can. Big Ben has provided a choice of lager lounges decorated in tasteful 1980s council office style just for that exact purpose.

I think it would be interesting to make the membership a notional cost. Make it a quid but once you've got emails and such, flog the shit out of advertising any game. You've opened a channel with people you know are interested. The cheap membership is great advertising as well cos people love stuff for a quid.

Seriously - when you're only pulling a 1000 walk ons, why not?
 
Do you think that the money offered for Bowler isn't worth as much as keeping him until May and losing him for nothing?

Sure, 3m-5m isn't worth as much as he is actually worth, but with one more year left on his contract I'd rather us get something than nothing.
 
td53 said:
You can. Big Ben has provided a choice of lager lounges decorated in tasteful 1980s council office style just for that exact purpose.

I think it would be interesting to make the membership a notional cost. Make it a quid but once you've got emails and such, flog the shit out of advertising any game. You've opened a channel with people you know are interested. The cheap membership is great advertising as well cos people love stuff for a quid.

Seriously - when you're only pulling a 1000 walk ons, why not?
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I think the Membership price has to be at least the price of the Away Fan’s Matchday Ticket price minus the discounted Home Fan’s Matchday Ticket price ??
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Do you think that the money offered for Bowler isn't worth as much as keeping him until May and losing him for nothing?

Sure, 3m-5m isn't worth as much as he is actually worth, but with one more year left on his contract I'd rather us get something than nothing.
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I'm 100% with Phil on this.

Right now, we look pretty well set but Bowler is so fundamental to us that if we lose him, we may not be so well set.

That makes his value to us a notional 7.5m (what we lose financially by being relegated)

Therefore, that is the starting price or no deal.

If Ben wants me to answer the phone on Thursday to agents and clubs, I'm afraid I can only start at 5.30pm but I'm happy to do so.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think the Membership price has to be at least the price of the Away Fan’s Matchday Ticket price minus the discounted Home Fan’s Matchday Ticket price ??
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So £5 is cheapest?

£5 with a beer/pie voucher as a sweetener.

Once in... Hooked.
 
JJpool said:
If its a fiver then it can only reduce the cost buy 1.66 or so I think. The efl rules on membership have been posted on here before.
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Ways to get around it just give them a £10 voucher in the club shop for example they then might put it towards a £50 shirt win win.
 
td53 said:
I'm 100% with Phil on this.

Right now, we look pretty well set but Bowler is so fundamental to us that if we lose him, we may not be so well set.

That makes his value to us a notional 7.5m (what we lose financially by being relegated)

Therefore, that is the starting price or no deal.

If Ben wants me to answer the phone on Thursday to agents and clubs, I'm afraid I can only start at 5.30pm but I'm happy to do so.
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So you do want your Cake and to Eat it (or Cheap Prices plus Multi Million Pound Player deals) ?

We won’t lose £7.5M through relegation either… Costs go down as well as revenue.
 
Philbfctrois said:
All this 'cash in' nonsense about Josh Bowler
He's by far our best player and anything less than about 7 million is an absolute steal. The club holds his contract so they should be telling clubs offering 3 million or so to fcuk right off.

Bit disappointed with the low home crowds this season, 9k or so yesterday so thats very few walk up sales, come on Blackpool fc do something with these match day prices for home fans.

Appleton is a vast improvement on Critchley, the football is fast and attacking which considering the injury list is remarkable, its about time he got the credit he deserves for the start to this season.

Utmp ...
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Agree with everything you have written for a change . Except for Josh Bowler going for no less then £7 million . If we don't get decent money for him now we will get nothing in 12 months. Anything around the £4 million mark is more likely and better than nothing next year.
 
Philbfctrois said:
All this 'cash in' nonsense about Josh Bowler
He's by far our best player and anything less than about 7 million is an absolute steal. The club holds his contract so they should be telling clubs offering 3 million or so to fcuk right off.

Bit disappointed with the low home crowds this season, 9k or so yesterday so thats very few walk up sales, come on Blackpool fc do something with these match day prices for home fans.

Appleton is a vast improvement on Critchley, the football is fast and attacking which considering the injury list is remarkable, its about time he got the credit he deserves for the start to this season.

Utmp ...
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Good OP. I concur on all three points. I also still think too many unused STs are just being left at home. If the club could analyse that data I bet it's a substantial number for which to find a better solution.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I think the Membership price has to be at least the price of the Away Fan’s Matchday Ticket price minus the discounted Home Fan’s Matchday Ticket price ??
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I think you are right.

This though to me is the crux of the issue. The club are looking to maximise revenues from away fans instead of trying to maximise the number of home fans. To me it's the wrong approach.

Attracting more homey's increases revenue several ways over and above awayers.

I think following the 'what every other club does' model is lazy and not applicable to the area. It won't change though.
 
poolseasider said:
Nothing wrong with the Membership scheme but £15 to get one and then your having to pay more than the majority of games you went to last season as a non ST holder is a waste of time.
4 x Games £120
4 x Members £115 is hardly a pull.

The £30 is putting locals off(I speak to many) and until it's dropped expect lower crowds than last season but lets see how pig headed the board are it takes a bigger person to hold their hand up and say they got it wrong.

Agree about the cash in for Bowler keep him worth more than the few million in the till.
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I've obviously mmissed this.
As an exile, I only get back to Lancashire 2 or 3 times during the season.
I've got to get a membership (is this annual?) so I can attend a game? That's £15.
What does this give me? It doesn't prove I'm local - clearly I'm not. So does this mean I can't get one?
And it's now £30 per ticket for each game?
 
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