Jaffa_The_Hut
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Thought we’re playing Czech Republic?England will beat Slovakia and Croatia will beat Scotland.
Thought we’re playing Czech Republic?England will beat Slovakia and Croatia will beat Scotland.
Wow! And he called us shite.Good luck with beating Croatia by 3 or more and hoping we lose, or by 4 and us doing you a favour (might be a push seeing as you haven't scored a goal in an international tournament for 23 years).
Shaw was decent first half.Agree with much of that apart from I thought Shaw played quite well
And they still didn't win the game..
Wow! And he called us shite.
Sometimes the opposition don't allow you to play. You'll do better.No point in going through if that’s the best we can do.
What about Carver? Didn't we dally with him once?
100% agree that he is a media darling. Interview with Mings who admits the team lacked intensity. No mention of that to Southgate - you have failed as a manager if you can’t get your team up for a game like that !I wouldn't want to go overboard with Southgate over one game but media darling is all he is and that's just because he does everything they ask of him.
For me, he is one of the luckiest England managers of all time and couldn't believe he got the job in the first place.
I said I didn't want to go overboard with the criticism but you can add FA yes man to his attributes.
Not for me but I don't give a feck as Scotland give themselves a chance of progress
You have to be better than preventing the opposition from letting you play. The best teams in Europe can still play despite the opposition’s intentions.Sometimes the opposition don't allow you to play. You'll do better.
But were not deluded you were meant to score 5 or 6 tonight going by this board England never fail to give the scots a laugh more to come.
Wow! And he called us shite.
DCL was very poor in the pre-tournament friendly and although he had a great start to last season his goals generally dried up. Not in Kane's class but yep, Kane is struggling too, All strikers need service though and i think it reasonable to say there has been very little of that in our two games to date.Way too many are picked on reputation; Sterling and Kane being the biggest examples. We have the likes of Sancho, Calvert-Lewin and Grealish on the bench, who look so much sharper.
As for Shaw and James, they offered nothing going forward, Southgate got so much wrong tonight. Mount and Rice were anonymous for large spells and yet again our delivery was woeful. It was like Iceland all over again as so many corners hit the first man. I'd like to think Southgate is tearing into them but suspect he'll be too busy jaffing himself off at the clean sheet and dodging one of the big guns in the next round.
Not sure there were many 5 or 6 nil predictions Dumfries lad.But were not deluded you were meant to score 5 or 6 tonight going by this board England never fail to give the scots a laugh more to come
Just admit it, that's back to back games of nothing from Kane. He doesn't deserve to start.DCL was very poor in the pre-tournament friendly and although he had a great start to last season his goals generally dried up. Not in Kane's class but yep, Kane is struggling too, All strikers need service though and i think it reasonable to say there has been very little of that in our two games to date.
Agreed, the top teams more often than not can adapt to how the opposition is playing… it’s called having a plan B, C etc. I’m not even sure we had a plan A tonight!You have to be better than preventing the opposition from letting you play. The best teams in Europe can still play despite the opposition’s intentions.
Not good enough:
Either did England at home against a pub teamAnd they still didn't win the game.
Exactly!Agreed, the top teams more often than not can adapt to how the opposition is playing… it’s called having a plan B, C etc. I’m not even sure we had a plan A tonight!
They looked like they were tanking it. Also, a draw paid juicy odds of $5 in Oz.Do you think we played for a draw
Beat Croatia though and we're going to qualify*Either did England at home against a pub team
Not sure there were many 5 or 6 nil predictions Dumfries lad.
Think most said it would be a shit game and we might just scrape home with an odd goal.
So half right at least.
He doesn't, players in much more form on the bench.Just admit it, that's back to back games of nothing from Kane. He doesn't deserve to start.
Yep, but it's good to know that your opinions count for nothing and those opinions that do think different.Just admit it, that's back to back games of nothing from Kane. He doesn't deserve to start.
I don't think anyone has over rated us, most think we'd get out of the group but don't stand a chance against France or Italy.We have very little chance of plotting our way to success this tourny because we overate our chances and our manager is not remotely good enough
It will not matter what stage you progress to your still going win the same as Scotland (fuck all)Beat Croatia though and we're going to qualify*
*Verb - To progress from the group stage of a tournament
Ah no, Good point. But I think he was on the Jock staff tonight.Carver ?
Euro 96 ?
I know lots of lads personally who have massively overrated us mate ...that’s a factI don't think anyone has over rated us, most think we'd get out of the group but don't stand a chance against France or Italy.
Yes, all the quality of Izal Toilet Paper! But at least that stings.On paper we have the quality.
We either have had utter complacency tonight or shite managerial decisions and team talks.
Take your pick.
Hanha,It will not matter what stage you progress to your still going win the same as Scotland (fuck all)
Really? Loads?I know lots of lads personally who have massively overrated us mate ...that’s a fact
No one is crying into their soup.It's the group stage. You'll go through so regroup and prepare for the next round. In the meantime, stop crying into your soup.
It needs balance though, we've four points and haven't conceded in two games.No one is crying into their soup.
Disappointed by a shite performed is allowed.
That’s what critique is all about.
OK, but a bit OTT given that you'll go through.No one is crying into their soup.
Disappointed by a shite performed is allowed.
That’s what critique is all about.
The backtracking is brilliant on here mateHanha,
....sad but true
such as? And I'd check out DCL's record before you quote him. That's not to say he shouldn't have come on for Kane.He doesn't, players in much more form on the bench.
Normally people go to Turkey for a full set of porcelein ones. Doubt Souness didDazzling.
I'm talking about Souness, and his teeth.
I think it depends on whether you expect a decent credible passionate performance from your national team or a lacklustre performance devoid of entertainment.OK, but a bit OTT given that you'll go through.
I don't really, we're not going to win it, but who remembers the group games from 1990, they were crap, (I couldn't tell you a single thing about the Dutch game for example but I know I watched it, I can't even remember the scorer in the Egypt game), or the Switzerland draw from 96 or even going back to 66 and the Uruguay game?I've seen teams gather pace & go on to produce when it really matters like the KO stages. Question is do I really believe it.
I never thought that would be the case, the fact your creaming yourself over a 0-0 draw speaks volumes. Truth is England will go through, you'll be back to buying another shirt for whoever England play in the latter stages.But but but England were winning 4-0,5-0,27-0
Yes, most of my matesReally? Loads?
Italy was in my mind. Stranger things have happened like getting to the Prem whilst the scum were in charge. I'm probably mad but I always believe we could do it.I don't really, we're not going to win it, but who remembers the group games from 1990, they were crap, (I couldn't tell you a single thing about the Dutch game for example but I know I watched it, I can't even remember the scorer in the Egypt game), or the Switzerland draw from 96 or even going back to 66 and the Uruguay game?
You get out of the group, that's all that counts, it doesn't matter how you do it. The most famous example is Italy in 82, didn't win a group game against Peru, Poland or Cameroon and scored two goals, they were terrible.